Looks like you don't have a habit of reading or keeping up with the current affairs. Because there have been numerous articles and reasearch papers on domestic laws like martial rape and abortion as well. Most of them written by legal experts working in UN, EU and even pvt IL specific firms. OP it's all about doing what you want.

Don't listen to these fools here. What I would suggest is prepare an outline of what you want to present. Especially with how it's relevant and falls within the ambit of IL. Then approach your professor.

The problem with most IL or HR professors is that they're not an expert on it and have just been given the subject because the university couldn't find a suitable expert. Moreover these are old geezers who are apprehensive about touching new topics since they will have to take the extra burden of being up-to-date with the topic and that is something their lazy bums will not want to do.

I've seen plenty of time where these professors would not touch anything related to digital areas, data, ai etc cause it's new for them as well. But it's your job to convince them that you know what you're doing. Ask for guidance in research not on topic. Simple as that.

No jobs. Better to do grad & MBA plus prepare for govt jobs. At the end of 5 years you will have to be the 0.1% to avail the best opportunities. Sadly not everyone is that brilliant. Law now does not have place for average students anymore. Otherwise you'll end up litigating for peanuts for the next decade post graduating.

"NALSAR lost its "number 2" spot to NLUD". LMAAAO. May I know my good Sir if you are from NALSAR or NLUD?
I have seen many threads and comments here making such statements based on NIRF rankings. Does anyone know how terrible the placements were for the 2024 batch for NLUD? Compare it to NALSAR? NLUD does not have even decent hostels. Except locational advantage, it simply cannot be compared to NLS and NALSAR that have exceptionally well-connected Alumni network.

Hi

I will be starting my law school journey next year from June and currently have been allotted rgnul in 1st list .

I have 6 months time in my hand and I am 12th passed out so as you all are technically my seniors I would like to know how can I utilise my time in such a manner that will help me in my law school and would keep me ahead of my peers. Or what you would have done in this time frame that you couldn't and regret now and what you did which helped you a lot in your law school journey

Thank you ☺️

I always wanted to join judiciary / UPSC but owing to the 10L edu loan that was outstanding, I was forced to continue with corporate law firm. It's been almost 3 years now and the outstanding loan is only 3.5 lakhs and I've enough savings in FD and stocks to repay the entire loan in one shot but I just want to avail 80E benefits for interest payments. The sad part is I will be turning 27 in Feb next year and now appearing for judiciary seems a tough nut ( UPSC is more of an impossibility) given I'm used to money and my investments. I fool myself by thinking I'll take long leaves for 3 weeks in the next two years and prep for judiciary during these breaks and will take a sabbatical once I make SA (which I will easily as everyone in my team loves me and already executing SA level work and leading a few transactions) to prep for my dream. So yeah, it does get difficult with an education loan on your head and drastically impacts your career choices and ultimately your life. As far as possible try applying for scholarships like Aditya Birla if you are at the top 5 NLUs ( I was shortlisted for this but never got it) or NLU financial assistance schemes. Do your research, for eg if you are from MP, your entire fee is taken care off. So use these but don't take an education loan :( ROI sadly doesn't add up

Nope.

MBA by and large adds no synergy to your law degree. So the combination itself, atleast in India (and even abroad afaik) is not more than the sum of its individual parts. Its pretty much the same as engineering + MBA, as both of those degrees are unrelated. The best job after an MBA that you can get (only available to the best students of IIMA and possibly one or two other colleges) is Investment Banking, which has worse hours than law (with higher pay)

That being said, MBA + law is good if you as an individual are able to reap the benefits of what you've learned in both these areas. This is best when you've worked in corporate law or in-house of a bank for atleast 2-3 years and then gone for an MBA.

People on LI who keep simping for MBAs have no clue about the real world. MBA is not a panacea for unemployment or an escape from bad work culture and hours. Many MBA grads not from the absolute top colleges are also suffering due to recession and jobless growth. There is not an endless , inelastic demand for MBAs in the world like fools on LI would have you believe. Additionally, the post MBA work life is also very toxic and has ungodly hours, but then again you will adjust like you do for a law firm. The difference comes down to the aptitude of the person and their likes and dislikes when it comes to an occupation.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/top-pe-player-files-fir-against-forged-artworks-worth-17-90-crore-101703014011592.html

Just leaving this here...

CA turn advocates mostly because they want to carry their tax litigation upto the high courts, maybe even above. And in any case, only the very brilliant of CA's truly flourish as lawyers. But yes in coming days expect CA, CS people to gravitate more towards litigation as they try to escape the mundane world of compliance.

Though the article mentions that growth is fuelled by overseas loans, these loans do impact career choices. I never wanted to join corp but judiciary or UPSC. However, I knew that I had to repay debt and the only way was to join corp because judiciary and UPSC can't be relied upon.

When people think college has any bearing on your UPSC preparation, it just makes me laugh. Juvenile. Colleges produce law firm placements, Vac Scheme kids, etc. Exams like UPSC are solely the outcome of the individual's effort. Allahabad University, Lucknow University, BHU, etc. have produced more UPSC toppers than any NLU will in the next 20 years.

Absolutely a good idea. Go for it! Best option is to go abroad (anywhere will do). After that:

- IIM A/B/C or ISB

- IIM K/L/I or SP Jain or FMS Delhi or top IITs

- Lower tier IIMs or Lower tier IITs or places like FORE, MICA etc.

- Various private colleges or non-MBA management courses

The only reason why not many lawyers don't go for MBAs is that they are weak in maths and their GMAT/CAT score suffers. But these days B Schools are looking to diversify intake, especially for girls, and they can relax a bit. Also, a good exam coach can help you a lot.

We should have elections for Supreme Court and High Court judges. The district judiciary can continue through selections and examinations. Such service can be made a prerequisite. It is the only way we can rid ourselves of the feudal judiciary while also keeping government influence somewhat limited.

A debt bomb in the making.

Education loans registered a record y-o-y growth of 20.6% for April - October 2023, compared to the same period in 2022. (Source: RBI)

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/money-and-banking/education-loans-see-record-206-surge-in-april-oct/article67673949.ece

Do state NLUs with their high fees and private universities (BITS Law, JGLS) with their exorbitant fees fuel this?

Do education loans impact career choices given that there's a sword hanging over students' heads?

Those who take education loans, are they also more likely to take other loans later in life - housing, car, personal etc.? Like a loan fetish.

I think its 8 lakh for A0 and 9.5 lakh for A1. Post A2 levels, you are entitled to a bill share of sorts and most of the Mumbai partners are rainmakers in M&A/GC pratices so rest assured, its a solid tier 2 pay wise and its fairly easy to shift after a year or two for the tier 1 firms.

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What most other law firms won't tell you is that since the last major hikes in 2016-17, there has been significant increase in revenues. Family run firms have kept the money to themselves, so Trilegal pay seems high in comparison. At the risk of sounding very old, reminiscing of the good old days of SAM where lawyers were paid an obscene amount straight out of college with a vehicle allowance and whatnot. To match that, inflation adjusted, A0s should be making around 2.25 a month, which is a far cry from what even Trilegal pays.

Look at yesteryear firms like JSA that didn't keep up with pay hikes. Their folks are leaving in droves and they're hiring en masse from tier 2/3 firms at a low pay scale.

There's plenty of work in the market. Our laws are more complicated than ever, investment interest in India remains high and there's simply no dearth of work for firms.

It’s on the front page today and two more articles inside. TOI says he pushed for many people (some of whom were accepted) but the name of one person from J&K that he was pushing for was a sore point.

I think it’s concerning because it shows that people from a certain city/college/community will push people from there. Hence, lots of Stephanians, DU CLC people, Delhiites generally and people from certain parts of India, especially North and West. Conversely, negligible NLU alumni presence in High Courts and zero presence in the SC, low representation of people from South/East/NE etc. Plus very few women.

Thoughts??

Better chances of getting a ppo with icul as their hiring is more than s&r. However, as somebody has already highlighted - as to which team and city you are getting an opportunity should be the decisive factor. Icul mumbai funds versus s&r cap markets delhi should be the guiding factor. Both dominant in their respective specialisation areas.

They take in so many freshers because people just leave these firms and the firm is without resources for the work.People especially Freshers can't take it and literally throw the badges on partners faces (Tri)walking out because of the torturous work cultures at these law firms.

I am not the same person who wrote the comment but I work for a Tier 1 in Delhi. 60 - 70k is still fine, people at these firms wear brands such as Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Armani and what not for casuals which costs quite a lot; and top of that formals from Louis Philippe/Raymond is also pretty expensive. Moreover, if you are a Counsel at a firm like Trilegal, there is ofcourse some form of pressure to carry yourself in a swanky manner given how you will be client facing 70% of the time. So to each its own.

That’s not a good reason at all. There’s a reason why NALSAR lost its “number 2” spot to NLUD and that’s due to a lack of academic rigour and poor faculty. Tier-1 NLUs have to push students to grow in those 5 years, not make it easy for them to get into some slave drive corp firm. Only reason I’d suggest NALSAR is if one wants a smaller batch size, otherwise, NLS has way better acads and faculty.

Yes, I'm aware of more than one PPOs having been offered post July. There is no hiring freeze, kid.

Hate to put it harshly but in all probability, your actual feedback was simply not as good as you thought it was. It's time to let go of the "I aced it" assumption and learn to actually identify your mistakes and get better.

Is it mandatory to constantly present your work in law firms?

What are some of the practice areas where you don’t require to present at all or only on some rare occasions? I just don’t like the extra work of memorising the stuff I had worked on and conveying it and would just be happy if it’s mostly a desk related job only.

Thanks

Trilegal and AZB given 58 & 41 internships only to Jindal students:

https://www.lawctopus.com/jgls-internships-4076-overall-1276-law-firms/

They must give equal number to all NLUs put together.

Everybody is of the view that the market is down, but even if the market is down law has its role to play is every phasee, now in the way of insolvency, increased litigation/ disputes?

So why are we suffering for jobs?

Also no bullshit reason hired more from batch of 2023, HR and firms have their policies intact( passed out of good management colleges)
What should be the future course of action- to get whatever and where-ever you are getiing an assesment internship or what else?

Graduating this june!!!!!

You probably get to see much more poverty in a metro like Delhi/Mumbai as compared to Jodhpur in my personal opinion. Since you'll be visiting Rajasthan for the first tine, you're in for quite a ride. It has the top tourist destinations of the country and the locals are very hospitable unlike those in Goa/hill stations. And certainly utilise LinkedIn and connect with seniors - don't send requests en masse though, connect to some 4th/5th years.

GNLU has a decent foreign exchange program. The list is available here: https://gnlu.ac.in/GNLU/International-Relations. Not all of these MoUs are however active.