Yes, thank you for these kind words. I get it now. I understand skills are often acquired, and there is no fault in trying to do something that's outside my comfort zone. I am considering a 3-year llb since I am already a graduate and I believe that in the coming 3 years I can change a lot and build confidence. Its just these societal norms that hinders me

Social skills & proficiency at language is important, yes, but these things can be improved. They're skills, like any other. You have five years at law school. Use it. To the person telling everyone to quit law because of lack of social skills or poor language skills - I strongly differ. Social skills are of utmost importance, followed by grasp over language. But not enough reason to quit law itself.

Loving it!!! Doing the opposite of what he is saying. Does anybody know if maybe Keir Starmer (the current British PM) and Sudhir were mates on the BCL together? After all, both did the BCL - can't remember off the top of my head when it is that Starmer did BCL. Maybe Sudhir is getting wrong inspirational feelings from watching him!

Yes, tolerating mistreatment is the price of entry (and retention). We don't actually have any corporate-relevant skills that makes us distinguishable from any layperson on the street, and in any case, from any other lay-lawyer who has passed the Bar Exam and has some modicum of sense & language proficiency. So we're all just so easily replaceable that Partners and PAs really have no interest in treating us well, because when we leave they can find our replacement within the notice period or at the maximum a few months.

The real question I ask myself is why we are paid so highly. There are so many decently-talented graduates who are willing and able to push themselves to whatever extent for a shot to work at the Tier 1s just for the name brand alone, and I'm sure it'd be the same even if the pay were to be slightly reduced. Even at 1 LPM (down from 1.5 LPM), freshers would throng to these firms, so why not save the CSs, SSs and HKs of this world some more money?

Thank you. Im genuinely having panic attacks and anxiety, these days are tough. The only negative I see was I had almost 7 months gap after my masters which may have affected my prospects. I didn't put myself in this situation on purpose, I literally tried everywhere and ended up taking the 1st job I got :(

Same situation. Same age factor. I know it is difficult. Just would say, look at the bright side in whichever situation you are. Many are not even making 10k in the profession despite 1-2 years being already in. Try switching careers if you don't find yourselves fit for it. Reach out to people around. Some of the people might help with jobs. Don't box yourself in legal jobs only. Especially, if you have found something that could be more satisfactory monetarily as well as emotionally.

sad to +1 this i know this comment will get -ve but this is true in the same boat as now i reaching the marraigable age, nobody in my current pay-scale is accepting me (despite good bilt and looks).

luckly left the lit side joined papa ka galla ( bussiness)

best choice trust me

(i am from a decent T2- nlu good internships and even master from london but still i was not able to break 50k payscale.

I'd heard somewhere (won't swear to it, as I don't follow this stuff regularly) that the UPSC CSE age limit has been increased, even for general candidates. Can't find the exact website where I saw this, but distinctly remember seeing it. Changed to 32, I believe. So why not try again? You've gotten some life experience also now, maybe give it a thought?

💯 TMC is really ramping up their legal team. He is the second NLU alum after Menaka Guruswamy to join the party. In addition, Kapil Sibal, AM Singhvi and Gopal Shankar Narayanan represent the party in cases. 💪

TMC is becoming the party of choice for NLU alumni.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVfhwpjEgbe/

Video of Menaka Guruswamy filing her nomination. Next to her is former Bengal DGP Police Rajiv Kumar and next to her is Arundhati Katju.

https://x.com/pooja_news/status/2029442952259579999

I think they will remain the same for the 27 batch, but only time will tell. Unfortunately, for campus placements, recruitment from law firms have tanked. Recruiters mostly come for in-house legal roles or random roles which have no relation to what you have studied for the past 5 years. However, if you want to move away from law, these may be a good option.

Better for you to try for a PPO rather than relying on college placements.

Am curious to check, if someone is using AI apart from helping with diligence, preparing simpler agreements (like employment agreements, services agreements, NDAs), legal research?

If so, please do share?

Also, please do share the experience with various prompts/instructions since that has a tangible impact on the work product.

Haha. Nice assumptions about me. I never attended your college, and never plan to. In fact, literally the only connection I have with India at all ATM is the passport I am saddled with (haven't even been there for almost 18th months straight), which I don't have the option of getting rid of for a few years yet, and some family members who live there (indeed, I had forgotten last year on 15 August that it was Independence Day until I saw a tweet of the embassy of the country I am currently living in to India passing on their good wishes for the big day). I literally read LI to laugh at the amusing things you kids say, safe in the knowledge that they can never be traced back to you (and engage in mudslinging from time to time when I have a moment, and because it's fun). If the mods had been indiscrete enough to share my IP address, you would have seen that it is an IP address from 5000 miles or more away from where you are now: and that's how far off I have been from your college (and the country in general) for the last several (more than even I care to think of) years (and intend to stay for the lifespan afforded to me). I rarely get irritated when reading LI, because you silly kids, who have no better work in life than to "rant", afford much amusement to those who appreciate the more serious issues of life. All I am irritated with is this victimhood mentality about English: the very same pernicious nonsense that says CLAT should be in Hindi and ask questions about farming, instead of being in English and asking questions about French foreign policy in South America. Where will your precious vac scheme/TC offers go when your mentality takes hold, eh? But sure, carry on the mudslinging! Loving it!!! If Sudhir (who has never heard of me BTW) can be accused of the "Jindalification of NLS", then you sure can be accused of the "GNLUfication of NLS" also.

8 Lakhs to organise a moot is bonkers, judges aren’t usually paid at NLU’s, the travel is usually train tickets for prelim judges and airfare for the senior practitioners. Accommodation is also usually on campus and most resources utilised are pre existing. This is outright money minting similar to certificate courses and online competitions with registration fees working on volumes and one solicited internship opportunity every desperate law student runs after due to FOMO.

The usual process for most students at T-1 firms is as follows:

Initial Internship → Presentation and/or Research Paper at the end of Initial Internship → (Positive) Feedback Form → Call-back/Assessment Internship → Partner(s) recommend you for PPO Interview consideration → PPO Interview → (Positive) PPO Interview Feedback → PPO Offer!

Alternatively some students also do long-term internships or become paralegals at these firms to secure a PPO recommendation.

You will have to start by securing your initial internship with the firm by applying to the firm (through college or independently or through contacts :)

Duration really depends on the path you follow tbh, some only have to intern for a couple of months and they secure the PPO whereas some can even pursue very very long internship periods via extensions. Depends on your ability and resilience!

Hope this helps!

HEYYY, i hope you are doing well? i am currently a 3rd year student with okayish-decent CV i am scared that i will end up in a sitatution like this and i didnt do much for 2 years of law school because i badly wanted to switch my career path but now i do not have any option took 30 lakhs loan for this college's fees and i badly need good internships and a good job, please suggest what to do , i have tried my ways, cold emailing , linkdein dms, cold calling, nothing is working out and i am willing to put in the hard work

Everything was good but later the committee people make everything pathetic and surely you guys IPL01 are cowards and now you will pay for your mistakes. But for sure I will make those committee people cry and living hell. They will ask for a dignified life but won’t get. The committee was headed by so called bangali mota