so you got one grade, (youre assuming or you have proof that it was because of viewpoint discrimination?) and then when the paper was reevaluated you got 3 grades higher?

Thats a vast enough difference that something iffy has gone on for sure. either the former grader or the latter has not done their job. Why do you think it was related to your politics?

a breach of privacy to provide any evidence that this is academic practice anywhere? Not really- if it is academic practice- its basically a lesson plan or a lecture or a conference presentation- none of those have any expectation of privacy. you dont even believe in your argument do you? You just feel a need to defend this indefensible thing because its your political tribe?

why was she showing any profiles at all? what really is the academic value? I dont really care that some student in the class got embarassed- I care that education at JGLS is of such a low quality that this is what your professors are doing in class! Why do you not care about that?

You can disprove their argument quite clearly by showing one other instance where dating app profiles have been used in academia this way. Its not a big ask.

No one is arguing that she broke some bumble law - or atleast the people youre responding to arent. Stop fighting strawmen and tell us what academic value this exercise provided and why its defensible as something a professor would do in the classroom? What are you learning from this you cannot learn from reading a study on endogamy/ mate choice. Why did it need to be done this way? why is this in good taste?

Its completely legal to show pornography in a law classroom, but it shouldnt happen though right? unless there is a really compelling reason we tend to keep that stuff out of the classroom.

"I haven't seen it, thus it doesn't exist" is surely a good argument. I can similarly attest that I did this in law school and have seen it in multiple seminars, classes and conferences around the world.

It may be bad taste depending on the type of engagement, but the argument of the HCW is not that it is bad taste, but that it has violated privacy (it has not) and is an offence against women. From the T&C: "As Bumble is a public community, Your Content will be visible to other users of the App all around the world instantly - so make sure you are comfortable sharing Your Content before you post."

She explicitly said she does not have a problem with people who say hai shri ram. It might make her uncomfortable just like hearing “allah hi Akbar “ might make someone else uncomfortable - but she recognises your free speech rights . RW students are being unfair with this talking point

I’m which research area specifically ? In what classrooms in what universities ? I’ve never seen it. Can you produce one peer reviewed journal article that is just a collection of bumble profiles ? One book chapter ? One conference presentation? I wouldn’t imagine it would pass for scholarship at all. It is shocking in its lack of rigor.

Academics discuss all sorts of things in the classroom - I don’t have a problem with her talking about endogamy or mating choices. I have a problem with how stupidly she did it.

When academics talk about the drug laws they don’t bring cocaine into the classroom, when they talk about gay rights they don’t show you videos of people having sex. When they talk about abortion rights they don’t show you videos of abortions. Somehow - they’re manage to talk about all of these difficult things using long form articles, case law , social sciences research etc etc.

Why is it ever necessary to show anyones bumble profile to a class ? Please explain what utility it serves.

Look the question isn’t one of censorship. It is legitimately one of the quality of preparation for class and one of the quality of class discussion. What can showing even random bumble profiles illustrate that cannot be done more efficiently and more impact fully by reading a study ? When people work on alcoholism or sex work they don’t bring a bottle of jäger and pornographic materials into the classroom no ? There is a way that academics do these things. This is not that way. It’s just in bad taste.

And it's okay to out people who use Grindr? Similarly, not okay to use Bumble in a classroom. It's a clear violation of privacy. For instance, if I have a particular age filer or other factors used to decide who gets to see my profile, the very fact it is used by a faculty to display and discuss that in class is a transgression and disgusting. Can't believe there are such stupid justifications of it.

The visit was covered by PTC News channel. Video below. The admin is seen receiving her with flowers but she looked super-pissed off 😂

Incidentally, she also insinuates in the video that certain profs are encouraging "Love Jihad". So it's official then: this is a pure BJP-Congress shadow war happening (Sameena is the daughter of a Cong MP + Naveen Jindal is a two-time Cong MP + Cong politicians like Shashi Tharoor are big supporters of JGLS).

You’re portraying it as if students were consciously picked, which was not the case. This was random sampling based on bumbles algorithm. Obviously, no student was picked from class like “Haan, Neha, we’re going to look at your profile today”. Yes, Grindr is also used in this kind of research. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Why does Prof Dalwai have a problem with Jai Shri Ram? It's a slogan used by millions of Hindus to profess their faith. Is it because the BJP uses it? By that yardstick, there are both innocent Muslims and terror groups that say "Praise be to Allah". Should the actions of the latter disentitle the former to use the slogan?

Do better, Prof Dalwai.

Good to see you agree. This all part and parcel of having an account on bumble, a risk that one accepts by creating the account. Y’all probably should read the T&C. Owes no duty of care, even if she did, that’s not the standard for review of a breach of privacy, as you should know.

Admin has totally missed the point. The only reason twitter leaks are happening is cause students are being persecuted by faculty members and not being given space to express their views. When complaints of safe space violations are made, nothing is done. So, students resort to publicaly shaming the university as there is no trust in university processes.

"Jindal gives space to all opinions and viewpoints."

Not true. Ask any RW student.

"The university has not officially supported Hamas and the event with Achin Vanaik was not an official university event."

Sameena's first email says "VC supports us unlike other colleges"

I'm a leftist and think showing bumble profiles in class is just trying to be cool. If the point is to elaborate on the configurations of desire, there are many ways to instantiate that, not show students' dating profiles on class. By that logic next can be grindr too. Also public ain't it? Stupid

1. They are sure as hell not meant to be analysed by a teacher in front of the students, especially given that the profiles were of students. The same way a teacher cannot discuss the vital stats of her students in class either.

2. It is a slang. Simply because you use it with impunity or are surrounded by people who do so too, doesn't make it cease to be one. Why don't you try calling your family members one and see their reaction to it?

I'm a lefty former jindal prof. I cannot imagine ever needing to show bumble profiles to a class. If you do want to make a point about the endogamous nature of our society- youre better off doing that by showing research and stats on this stuff. I cannot imagine ever saying chutiya in a classroom- absolutely unacceptable behaviour. I also dont think she was hard pressed by the email coming out- she sent it to a large group of people- theres no real expectation of privacy. FWIW she didnt say anything about "jai shri ram" other than she respects peoples freedom of speech to say it- why right wingers want more from political opponents and what authoritarianism that is is wild.

Having said that- Jindals right wing and left wing students are cowards. The right wing students dont have the courage of their convictions to actually have a discussion with their professor when they disagree. They dont have the intellectual ability or the courage to hold their own in an argument. They would rather go to the admin and whinge about you. And Jindals left wing students want to be praised for every half assed barely informed protest they do instead of actually doing things to improve how the university exists within the sonipat ecosystem. Their left wing politics is completely divorced from the struggles of poor people. And they get outraged when their stupidity is called out by people not at their university. Be better leftists- youre embarassing the rest of us.

Its unsurprising that someone who teaches and behaves this way has stayed at this university for more than ten years and been promoted regularly. The place rewards mediocrity as long as you play along with the corrupt practices at the institution. What is keele university anyway?

This quote by Glenn Greenwald sums up the root of the divide at JGLS right now:

"The cultural left (meaning the part of the left focused on cultural issues rather than imperialism or corporatism) ... has become increasingly censorious, moralising, controlling, repressive, petulant, joyless, self-victimising, trivial and status-quo-perpetuating."

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1396973746410475522

Her new tweet just confirms how deeply divided the student body is. Leftists are fully behind Sameena Mam, rightists want her gone. After US law schools, we are seeing a full on culture war between trads and wokes in Indian law schools. Remember NLUJ a few weeks ago?

Just wait as elections approach: other NLUs will see big time fights.

Well, the update tweet of the Chairperson tells a different version. Looks like Jindal, like Ashoka, is now being targeted by the right wing hegemony.

https://twitter.com/RenuWBhatia1/status/1721824176917651877?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Just in from reliable sources: The Chairperson came to the campus in the morning, as scheduled. The admin was polite but not deferential. They made the following points:

- Jindal gives space to all opinions and viewpoints. There are RW profs and there is also a Centre for Israel Studies in college. The university has not officially supported Hamas and the event with Achin Vanaik was not an official university event.

- Children of very senior BJP politicians have studied in/graduated from Jindal.

- Prof Dalwai's mail about the Jai Shri Ram slogan was an internal faculty mail, but it was accepted that the display of Bumble profiles was inappropriate and avoidable.

- Going forward, a revised Code of Conduct will be emailed to all faculty (not just singling out Prof Dalwai) to respect privacy and FOE and to not show and personal info about students in class without their consent (including social media and dating profiles).

- The Code of Conduct will also say that the university logo cannot be used for unsanctioned events, like the Palestine event.

- The email will be sent by the end of this week.

The meeting ended amicably.

First official government intervention in the ongoing culture wars at Jindal. But the legal issue will have to be confined to the Bumble incident. Can the Bumble profiles of students, especially girl students, be shown and discussed in class?

https://twitter.com/RenuWBhatia1/status/1721419302770037014