In the first 10 batches of NUJS, majority have always been non-Bengalis. That's a fact.

None of the other reasons you mentioned yo justify AILET is convincing or objective. As for NLSIU, they didn't hold NLAT after that, right? All NLUs are free to exit CLAT now, but they didn't. Only NLUD remains outside. That's because of greed, simple.

"there were hardly many aspirants for places beyond NLS, NALSAR and NUJS"

I was part of the entrance exam of a place which would be considered upper tier 2 today, this was the year just before CLAT, we had around 7500 students take the exam. Once we joined CLAT our total income went down by half, although we had many more examinees, but the number of institutions sharing the pie meant the amount per uni went down.

What many do not know there were some institutions which threatened to walk out of CLAT after the first year because the money was paltry in comparison to what was being garnered by individual exams. There was a two tier system proposed, but the lower ranked institution threatened to remove themselves and cooler heads prevailed and the CLAT chugged on.

So, it is very much a fact that NLUD persists with AILET for financial gain. The margin is close is 75%. If you pursue the financial statements of NLUD, which are publicly available, you can easily find it.

The number of students who get assistance at NLUD is listed on NIRF it is no more than all other similarly placed NLUs. I am sure the uni does not absorb the electric bill from AC hostels. But I must say the food at NLUD mess is v good.

Sad that even a reasonable comment will make the NLUD haters think I'm a troll. And I haven't even spoken about any data issues as far as NIRF goes, so obviously you're still sour about NIRF from some other comments. Fair enough, but your response lacks any substance.

It's a known fact that the then WB CM created NUJS since he was impressed by the progress of NLS and saw that many Bengali students were leaving WB for NLS, and he wanted to retain the talent. That's why he invited Madhava Menon to establish NUJS. I never said that only Bengalis applied to NUJS but even if you look at the names of some of their earlier alumni, a large number of them are Bengalis.

It's obviously more simplistic for your charlatan minds to claim that AILET is only a cash-grabbing scheme but that's not the only reason for AILET. When a university provides high quality academic exposure which only a few other CLAT NLUs even provide, I see no reason why they need to group themselves with mediocrity. In the past, before the Consortium came into being, CLAT was always slammed as a poorly conducted, random exam that always had scams (from paper leaks to syllabus changes to technical snags) nearly every year. And even during the Consortium era, let's not forget the NLAT fiasco. Were it not for the Supreme Court, it's likely that even NLS would've exited CLAT.

There is truth in what you have said. But it's not historically informed. Before CLAT, there were hardly many aspirants for places beyond NLS, NALSAR and NUJS. Less than 2000-odd folks even for places like NLUJ and NLIU. And even there, most applicants were from within that particular state, like WB for NUJS. So, yeah, they could sustain themselves, but that was more out of compulsion than choice.

And having its own entrance was necessary since most students select the CLAT preferences based on the order/year of establishment. When I took the CLAT, there were many folks who preferred NLIU over NUJS and that was visible even in the merit and allotment lists. NLUD persists with AILET because there is a valid presumption that some uninformed aspirants who tend to seriously choose their law school only after getting a rank, will initially mark preferences based on year of establishment as it appears on the CLAT website, and then NLUD, would be 12th or something since it was formed even after NUALS. This is obviously unfair considering NLUD is way better than nearly all older NLUs.

And I highly doubt that if NLUD joined CLAT, many people would prefer NLIU/NLUJ over it and that this is what scares the admin. Not that the latter two are any worse, but that simply isn't a major concern. Most people who have a choice between NLUD and the other two choose NLUD. Check the AILET allotment for the previous years with names, if you're so keen. And even this year, some 3 folks in the top 100 ranks preferred NLUJ over NLS, does that destroy the image of NLS? I think since NLUD has the ambition to eventually overtake even NLS, they want to avoid a clash of preferences with NLS and NALSAR, and AILET helps to maintain that image. Also, for someone who might have an off-day in CLAT and can't land a top 3/4, an AILET rank could ensure s/he atleast has a good law school to choose from rather than being forced to settle for a tier-2 NLU.

I also don't agree with this whole idea of greed. It's a public institution that pays based on UGC scales and in the past was well-funded by the Delhi government. Holding an entrance exam across the country in various cities, setting a high-standard question paper and ensuring proper invigilation, etc, all costs a lot of money. And for students that do get into NLUD, the admin provides fee waivers based on need, funds all the travel expenses for international/national competitions and the research centres even pay interns. Hell, there's even spilt A/Cs in all the hostel rooms.

Even if NLUD does join the CLAT in the future, I don't think it will suffer much in terms of quality of students, and ideally will be a 2nd or 3rd preference for most.

"It’s the only college capable of sustaining itself separated from CLAT"

I guess you are too young to remember that 12-13 years ago (before CLAT) all NLUs (which were operational then) had their own entrance exam and all of them were thriving. Then a concerted effort by students and a couple of NGOs led to the creation of CLAT after a court order.

NLUD was being created around this time and Ranveer Singh was the first VC. He calculated that it would be helpful to have a different exam as NLUD was unknown at the time and it would have ranked no. 8 or 9 in the preference list of the students if it was to be part of CLAT (as we have seen the initial ranks get ossified and rarely changes massively). Also, AILET gave a nice boost to income for the uni, he also publicly declared at the time that all NLUs had profited from their own entrance exam in the formative years to build a corpus and that chance should not be taken away from NLUD.

Shamnad Basheer decided that NLUD should be make party to the order and he was pursuing it around 2012, but other events took place and this was never pursued, and AILET survived.

Even last year when NLUD participated in the CLAT meeting as an observer there was a consensus that they might join in 2023 but it seems that talks failed recently and Bajpai decided to forge it alone. Two things happened 1) FM was ejected from the CLAT scene, 2) In Bajpai, NLUD has found someone who has excellent network to resist the pressures from CLAT consortium

So, it is more due to a series of coincidences and the continued greed of NLUD admin that AILET has survived, rather than any other factors. Although we may also argue that there is a continued fear amongst the NLUD stakeholders that the CLAT aspirants may put it after NLIU/NLUJ and that would be disastrous for the image cultivated by NLUD.

LOL. 10 students only? Then, you may as well bow down to NLUD superiority right now and for the rest of your life. Check the merit lists even from even 10 years back and you’ll find more than 20-30 people getting such CLAT ranks and joining NLUD. That number has only increased with NLUD getting even better.

I’m not going to prove anything to you since you’re the one making deliberately false claims. But know this, you never had a chance to get into NLUD regardless. Enjoy your tier-3 law school.

Fake claim again. You’re making it more and more clear about your insecurity of not having cracked AILET. 90% folks here are in the top 200-300 ranks of CLAT in the general category. Most people these days get a minimum of NALSAR/NUJS. Since you’re the one who’s claiming that nonsense, you should be showing proof. I’ve actually studied at NLUD unlike you and can testify that it’s a way better place than wherever you’ve studied from.

Don’t even get me started on the top CLAT rankers that get shit marks in AILET and can’t even get near one of merit lists here.

NIRF only allows those contractual faculty members who work across two semesters to be classified so, if someone visits only for one semester or even for a single credit course then they need to be classified as visitor. Now please look at the submission made by NLUD https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/NIRF%20NLUD%202023.pdf

several people who did not come to NLUD even online last year have been mentioned as contractual

Give it a rest, having random publications in some scam journals is hardly worth breaking one's back over. That's a lot like JGLS. While NLUD's research work is known across the country including the government, NUJS hardly has any relevancy as far as research or publications go. How many students from other law schools actually work full-time at NUJS' research centres? NLUD provides employment to quite a few from nearly every other NLU including NUJS grads.

You can believe that ridiculous analogy if that helps you sleep at night. But an easy cross-checking of the CLAT and AILET merit lists will reveal that most students who get anything below NALSAR drop it for NLUD, and nowadays more NLS and NALSAR rankers are also dropping for NLUD. That's just a fact, NLUD doesn't have to join CLAT to show that.

First, when NIRF submission refers to 2015 batch they refer to those who entered in 2015 and graduated in 2020.

Second, the 2020 NIRF data was used to highlight the deliberate nature of lying on the part of NLUD. Their internal memo clearly stated something else and they submitted made up data to NIRF. 2020 was the last year when NLUD put raw data onto internal servers. So, we use 2020 data to make it easier for ▮▮▮ to easily compare the difference between the truth (internal memo) and the falsehood (NIRF submission), no brains required.

Third, the method of calculating median does not change once it leaves the metro station and enters NLUD. Refer to one of the earlier comments where someone has shown step by step how to calculate median.

fourth, as for the 2023 NIRF submission, many commentators above have already shown how NLUD have again either deliberately or recklessly submitted false information. "1) the 19lpa media salary for graduates at NLUD is a fantasy, some apologists tried taking the charitable view that it is average, but that is mathematically impossible. 2) NLUD has quoted that they have 124 teachers, the list on their internal severs shows how people who came for one lecture have been put as contractual and those who have never even come either in person or online in last couple of years have been put in as visiting professors" I would add that even the research income and scopus citations for NLUD is suspect (given the inflated teacher list).

The sheer force stupidity to keep citing an “internal document” which was published for the older batches many years before current NIRF data is just mind-boggling. The higher studies numbers are for a batch that’s older, check your source, that makes it clear enough. And it isn’t even an internal document since it is publicly available on the website. You’re not some major leaker/investigator here.

Look man, you’re clearly hard pressed against NLUD and want to take this opportunity to claim that all the data is fake but apart from the salary figures, there’s literally no other data you can prove which is certifiably inaccurate. You want to call out the salary issue, fair enough, I also feel that it needs revision, but the rest of what you’ve cited are rubbish claims. And no, salary figures were very much accurate till the 2020 NIRF, so claiming that “they’ve always lied” is hyperbolic and misleading.

And NIRF permits citing visiting and contractual faculty including research associate positions and from what I see, there is no inaccuracy there. Other NLUs also include contractual and visiting faculty in their lists, that’s not illegal so long as you don’t wrongly classify a contractual one as permanent or something. And NLUD does in fact employ quite a few folks across its handful of research centres, maybe your college can’t afford to do that.

ask your uni to be part of clat and then let the aspirants decide where they want to put nlud in their preference.

you are deliberately fomenting a false comparison, you play in a pen of 1, while other NLUs have a true discovery mechanism of preference ranks through the clat counselling system. It is like comparing a monopoly (AILET) with true competitive market (CLAT). There can never be a true price discovery (preference) in a monopoly.

1. salary has been 'miscalculated' this year as well. Well into the new regime. So cant blame bad actors or previous admin.

2. How does it matter if I study at Andaman Law College, it doesnt diminish the fact that NLUD has been caught out again on lying about the most important thing that matters to law students - graduate outcomes. Stop attacking the person and find out why your college needs to submit false data year fater year.

I dont know whether it is wilful blindness or muleheadedness of NLUD students which stops from accepting that their uni submitted false data for this year as well. In the last post I had highlighted one section which shows that the admin made up data when they submitted it to NIRF. It was blatant because when they collated internal data (which were put on the internal server) the data says something else and when it is submitted to NIRF it says something completely different. If you want to look at this years data (2023) - I would just say two things 1) the 19lpa media salary for graduates at NLUD is a fantasy, some apologists tried taking the charitable view that it is average, but that is mathematically impossible. 2) NLUD has quoted that they have 124 teachers, the list on their internal severs shows how people who came for one lecture have been put as contractual and those who have never even come either in person or online in last couple of years have been put in as visiting professors.

So, unfortunately it is not one inaccurate data but a cascade of deliberately false info which have been finetuned over the past 6 years to give an inflated impression of NLUD.

" it doesn't matter whether our salary figures are 19 lacs or 1.9 lacs," what are you on bro? graduate outcome is the most important thing for an incoming student. Why would i spend 12 lakhs if I dont get the opportunity to get a decent job or career at the end. NLUD has been misquoting figures on graduate outcomes either recklessly or deliberately for as long as we have records, this needs to come to an end.

Dude, it's the faculty publication and research score that's counted. The only other qualification is about how many teachers have PhD. Please don't embarrass yourself by parading your ignorance in this manner. And NUJS has a much better faculty publication score in this year than NLUD, that's a fact. Just like previously NLUD had a better score. Have some grace in accepting your limitations.

That's because NLUD keeps the admission money before CLAT results are out. Get AILET to be conducted at the same time of CLAT first. As for your continuing claims about NLUD being ahead, only in your claims it is. Nowhere where it actually matters. It's a place of liars, for liars and by liars no matter how shameless trolls pretend otherwise.

Wrong data. Like someone else also pointed out, the internal document is for the batches that passed out in the years 2015 and 2016, NIRF is for the batches of 2020 and 2021. You clearly can’t read well and you’re citing this data like some gospel.

You don’t know that method that NLUD uses to calculate its median so and your alleged proof of that is also an outdated and different document. So, you haven’t proved shit.

Moderator should make any comment from you as “unverified” and “trollish”.

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▮▮▮ if you're really at NALSAR/NUJS, you'll be well aware of multiple folks dropping those places for NLUD. Both of them have a domicile quota where students with much lower ranks enter. And NUJS even has a large-chunk of NRI-sponsored seats for backdoor entries for folks with much lower CLAT ranks.

On a serious note, GNLU/HNLU rank folks are no less competent. NLUD has done better regardless of the CLAT rank which shows that the institution is what makes the difference. Keep trolling, it doesn't matter whether our salary figures are 19 lacs or 1.9 lacs, we'll still be better than your law school.

All i need to do is prove NLUD has submitted blatantly false data, if you have any other data try prove otherwise

https://www.nirfindia.org/nirfpdfcdn/2023/pdf/Law/IR-L-U-0111.pdf look at third table from top on page 1, look at row 1

median salary on NIRF docu is 18 lakhs, NLUD internal memo https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/Placement.pdf it is 12 lakhs

on the official documents the number of students who went for higher ed is 26, in the internal memo https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/HigherStudies.pdf it is 8

You mean Noojies calling out the mishaps in their administration some 10 years after it all happened? Hardly effective. Even with a so-called active SJA, NUJS grads didn't even properly challenge their domicile quota before the High Court. NLUD folks have actually done and achieved all that.

I know you need a coping mechanism, but this kind of comment won't change the fact that you failed to crack AILET. It also flies in the fact of obvious proof that most students who get into NLUD through AILET drop their CLAT ranks (except maybe NLS) for NLUD.

Moderator should have some sense to mark this as "trollish" and preferably not even publish this kind of garbage.

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Regardless of what you people write, the fact remains that NLUD is still one of the best. It’s the only college without some local domicile quota unlike NLS, NALSAR and NUJS. It’s located in the capital and set up by the NCT of Delhi, which is not some ordinary state like the others. It’s the only college capable of sustaining itself separated from CLAT, besides NLS. So it’s in a league of its own.

And we’ve ranked high in NIRF even when placements weren’t as high so claiming that your cheap NLU would be 2nd or 3rd if not for NLUD is just wishful and desperate. If anything, it was from SKD’s time that salary figures got inflated, but be assured we’d still be 2nd even with 16 lacs p.a.

Don't believe what the NUJS students are saying. You, however, have been claiming NLUD's superiority over the years because of NIRF only, so why are you disbelieving the data now? Or does it hurt to know that your research score when checked by outsiders is actually pretty low, contrary to what you have been claiming?

Please don't start pretending that NLUD hasn't always been lying about salary figures because they have been. Keep calling other NLUs lower rung if that helps you deflect attention from your lies. The students from those places outperform you everywhere anyway. According to NIRF data itself, their faculty do too now.

No proof of that. Under SKD’s reign, it seems the salary figures have some miscalculation. Don’t pretend like this is some story of the boy who cried wolf where now everything is an apparent lie. Clearly, your aim is not to have any actual debate but simply to bash NLUD since you failed to get through the entrance exam and had to settle for a perceptibly lower rung NLU.

Thanks, but I’ll stick around and take my chances, I think NLUD is better than all the rest. At the very least, it can get better, something the older law schools haven’t. And what’s your deal with trying to bash NLUD with some senseless hashtag? You sound like a child rather than an actual constructive commentator on data. Then again, you are a troll. AILET failure still haunting you?

Read the document yourself first, you ▮▮▮. It was the batch that graduated in 2015. The NIRF data is for the 2020 graduating batch. You’ve recovered an old document and are falsely shouting that NLUD lied about the numbers.

I know that you guys would love to “piggyback” on one inaccurate data set to claim that everything else is false in the hope that some CLAT aspirant reads this and chooses a shit place like NUJS/Nalsar over NLUD, but like I said you’re too stupid to actually get proper data on the table to argue.

But NLUD has always lied about placements from year one. So their ranking doesn't count. If that's one thing that they keep lying about, who will believe that their other data are accurate either? It's a liar's den and there's no use claiming that they don't care, since there are so many NLUD trolls who keep defending their university's lies here.

The comments against NLUD are just the product of jealousy, nothing else. You all know very well that perception score is a part of all rankings. QS also has it. It can't be helped if your college has bad PR and publicity. A college cancels the governor of a state (now the vice president of India) and expects good PR and publicity???

"The higher studies list from the internal NLUD document is till 2015-16. The data submitted in NIRF is for 2021-22."

If you can read, please have a look at the third table top row https://www.nirfindia.org/nirfpdfcdn/2023/pdf/Law/IR-L-U-0111.pdf you will find the discrepancy.

NLUD will put some prof. who had taken one session as a contractual employee and piggyback on their research laurels. Thus inflate its research output.

It is a well known fact in the NLU ecosystem that NLUD lies each year on NIRF Graduate salary, the question is how long would this lie last and hopefully only stupid students, who do no homework, would fall for it.

The problem with the research fund is also funny, the uni has got 2 year grant of 8.4 lakhs total, so ideally it should be counted 4.2 lakhs per year for NIRF, but you will find they have counted 8.4 lakhs for each of the two years.

what more proof do you need? hope you will believe that you have joined a uni where the authorities lie on government documents, hope you will not do so in the future

AILET bottler detected. Clearly, you failed to crack the college and feel cheated of your money and a self-serving ego boost. The original comment is hardly even about NLUD, but you've chosen to focus just on the one mention of the college. It's actually the petty and jealous hate from other NLU grads that continues to keep NLUD relevant. You can try all you want to change NLUD's perception before this lame audience of LI trolls but everyone who is relevant knows how good NLUD is and also that very few folks will ever have the opportunity to study there, regardless of NIRF. Don't pretend like you actually got in recently and chose some lower rung college like NUJS.

NALSAR and NUJS grads think that they would be second or third if it weren't for salary figures but they seem to have conveniently forgotten how NLUD was ranking ahead of them since 2018 when salary figures were not seemingly inflated. Point being, you guys want to people to stop taking NIRF seriously, then don't comment on it. But you can't help yourself and you clothe your trolling as some call for fairness and transparency. The fact that all the top 4 NLUs have tweeted and bragged about their NIRF ranks is evidence enough that NIRF matters and that NLUD is easily part of the tier-1 list (if not ahead due to the fact that it's the only actual "national" university situated in the country's capital in that list) regardless of your jealousy towards its rise.

Doubt it. You can’t prove any data submitted by NUJS for the NIRF. The only argument that all you guys have is based on some salary figures. Fair enough, but it’s pretty pathetic since your real agenda is to feel superior by having your NLU get a higher rank. I highly doubt a place like NUJS that gets next to no funding from the govt, has pretty crap faculty, and has never had much of research culture, can actually score more than NLUD or Nalsar.

Take away all the scores then and let’s just believe the Noojies who claim that they are still top 3. And I like how Noojies despite having a non-existent research environment and having bashed NIRF in the past, are now claiming that the NIRF research scores are accurate and reflective of the research culture at the university.

Maybe. But Im sure other NLUs do the same thing. It’s just that you can’t prove shit. You see the salary figures and think you can extrapolate to claim that all the data is fake. But here’s the truth about why you are even bothering commenting on this thread: Not because you care much for changing NIRF or improving data submissions, but simply because your NLU has ranked lower than NLUD for the past 6 years regardless.

The quant gurus on this website who took up law because they all sucked at maths in school will now suddenly pretend as if NLUD is lying about everything because of some cheap commentator who can’t even verify the data properly. The problem with you suckers is that you can’t even prove the kind of data that your college is submitting, but you look at the salary and assume it as true. I get that you have gripes against NLUD since you flunked AILET, but why don’t you actually put proper facts regarding the data revealed by places like NUJS and others. NUJS research output is pretty garbage and the fact that it’s ranked ahead of 2 better NLUs means there are suspect data inputs even there.

And SKD was NLUD VC when NLUD’s salary figures seemed inflated, no doubt he did some other fudging to get NALSAR back to third. It’s just that you guys can’t verify anything but want to have an opinion about a college you can’t get admission into. Grow up.

I have visited NLUD a few times and have always been impressed by the superb infrastructure, dedicated teachers, and excellent research environment. The students are at par with the top 5 NLUs and the top quarter in Jindal. Its thus sad to see it has to resort to submitting blatantly false and inflated data to seek external validation.

Thank you for sharing the internal links from the NLUD website. https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/

I was going through the faculty list for the last three years, in 2021 and 2022, they have rightly put Prof. Galanter's age as 89 and 90, however this year, it suddenly went down to 77. I wonder what was going on through the mind of the person who was submitting the data for this year '91 seems too high, let us put it down to 77, seems like a nice number.' Apart from the audacity it takes to submit false data to government what also strikes me as criminally culpable is that NLUD might be piggybacking on the scopus publications of some of the 'visiting/contractual' people.

My respect for Prof. Bajpai went down a notch after this debacle. I am sure that an important document like NIRF submission would have gone through his desk. A cursory glance at some of the data would show that they are suspect. The graduate salary is obviously wrong (its neither median nor mean), the faculty numbers are over inflated. I have met Prof. Bajpai a few times and have always thought of him as an honourable person, I cannot believe he would sign off this document. Sir, you should do something to stop this disgrace.

I have a query, are the research publications counted for faculty members from the list above or are they submitted by the uni? Because if there is a system which cross checks from Scopus, wos etc. using the faculty list provided by the university then it would lead to incorrect info. The faculty list submitted by universities which include top notch visiting professors or visiting speakers will tend to skew the data. This needs to be looked into.

At least all the info provided is accurate, which is less than what can be said about NLUD, which lists occasional lecturers abs researchers as faculty and lies about placement data. As for perception, you keep trying to claim that NUJS' low perception score is not because of NIRF manipulation or faulty methodology. But then, you have to tell everyone whom you know to go Siksha O Anusandhan since its perception score is higher.

Good thing the Mod has Atleast marked this as contested. Should be trollish too. Trying to get this trending, you idiot commentator? Your hashtag is crap and NLUD won’t give a s*it. Your arguments are all nonsense too. The higher studies list from the internal NLUD document is till 2015-16. The data submitted in NIRF is for 2021-22. And research funding is given for multiple years anyway so no issue in including that for future counting.

And all universities have included visiting faculty as part of their total number including NLS and NALSAR. The only valid criticism would be salary figures but even then, no one here has any data on how its calculated or the prescribed NIRF procedure for it (if there is one). All you clowns who are bashing NLUD should realise that NLUD has already ranked 2nd in NIRF for multiple years even before this salary issue, and back then our salaries were way more moderate. You can keep trying to pretend that your colleges are better and have some great integrity because they’re part of the useless CLAT but it won’t work because deep down you also know that regardless of NIRF, NLUD is a better institution than your NLU.

Big 3? What Big 3? And only a defeated troll like you would ask others to admit defeat when they are doing well in their own right, just like NUJS and its students have been all these years despite all the hate. Check the actual scores, it is firmly in the same space as NLUD or NALSAR. The spurious perception score does not matter. And this despite NLUD's regular lies and false stats.

Why? Seems justified to me. Good perception comes from good admin, good infra, good faculty and good communication of achievements (the NUJS website was effectively out of date for 8-9 years under Ishwara Bhat and the temporary VC after him, and even now the website is ugly and lacks information).

CHRIST's reputation is not rizzled atleast for the main campus at Bangalore. We have achievements and placements that rival T1 NLU's. The final stats for this year's RCC are 86 placements

121 internships/paralegalships. No tier 1 nlu comes even close to this. We currently have the batch size that NLS is expadning to get and getting a huge number does boost perception. CHRIST Bangalore also has the Shardul and Bharati Shroff Gold Medal for best outgoing student.

#FAKELUD has always lied:

As per data submitted to NIRF by NLUD, total number of students who opted for higher education in 15/16 batch was 26

https://www.nirfindia.org/nirfpdfcdn/2023/pdf/Law/IR-L-U-0111.pdf

As per their own internal memo (hosted on their own website), the data for that year was 8

https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/HigherStudies.pdf

#FAKELUD also double counts research income https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/Sponsored%20Research%20Details%20(1).pdf

and anyone who knows about #FAKELUD will tell you they never had 124 faculty members, the SMOKING GUN is here, as per the submission by NLUD available at https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/NIRF%20NLUD%202023.pdf

scroll down this explosive document and you will find Marc Galanter (aged 92) is listed as a visiting faculty member [although more points are added for permanent faculty members and contract faculty, any faculty listed also adds to it], there are over 15 names listed a visiting faculty who may have come and given a talk at NLUD sometime. There are over 30 researchers who are listed as teachers who have never taught. There are contractual teachers listed who have not taught at NLUD in the last three years. All done with a scheme to inflate numbers of teachers at #FAKELUD.

Students from #FAKELUD do not try to persuade your uni to remove the data from the website, I have made copies of it, if you manage to deactivate the links, I shall upload it and it shall live for ever on the internet.

Even with an average it will not be possible to get to 19lpa

last year NLUD had 25 tier 1 recruitment at 16lpa, 4 TCs were given at £45k (for first year)

if we assume the rest at 10lpa, then the average comes to 15 lakhs

the only way the average will be 19lpa if there were a dozen TCs or if 50 students got 16lpa tier 1 recruitment, both of which did not happen.

So again it is proven that NLUD LIES ON NIRF

NLS has been bragging about it’s NIRF rank for the past couple of days. I know you want to pretend NIRF is shit since your college ranked low but grow up. NIRF is the ONLY authentic ranking in India at the moment and all relevant colleges from IITs to IIMs to top NLUs care about it.

Wow, such sour grapes towards NLUD even though the guy is an anonymous commentator who actually has an informed opinion. All jokes aside, it’s clear that you had a bad day at AILET and and are jealous of NLUD. Whether it’s 2nd or 3rd hardly matters to me, but it’s good to see NLUD doing well regardless of NIRF just to keep stuffing more sour grapes down your throat. Keep complaining, loser.

it calls into the question the veracity of the other data submitted by them, especially the one on number of faculty members, I have a sneaking suspicion they have shown their temp staff members as permanent faculty, but cant prove as I dont have the exact break up.

Unlike the recruitment data on which NLUD has been LYING for the last THREE YEARS

In the last 3-4 years, the NUJS administration, despite its many faults, has actually been encouraging faculty to conduct research, get projects and publish, including having monetary incentives for publications. There are a few faculty there who regularly publish a lot, collaborate with other institutions including foreign universities and international bodies, and have got decent citation records too. Which is good in the long run.

Err...other than perception score, NUJS has actually performed equally or better in all other parameters including the ones that you mentioned, compared to NALSAR or NLUD. In fact, as has been mentioned by someone else, NUJS' score in all other parameters combined is actually more than NALSAR, and only just behind NLUD. So keep your propaganda to yourself.

He has just mentioned quantitative data, not given his own opinion about which NLU is good or bad. If you believe that the rankings are so useless, which you have a right to, then why even comment in a thread about them? He has given a disclaimer in the beginning about him having reservations about the rankings themselves. Your argument is like saying if you don't like the political party in charge, then you should stop taking an interest in how the country is being run.

With so much time at your hand you definitely don't look like the foreign return NLS grad that you are claiming to be. Your analysis seems like any other NLUD guy backhandedly trying to justify the rankings. How can an intelligent guy such as yourself (caliming to be) spend so much time on a ranking that except the NLU D students everyone considers a sham. When year after year colleges have been submitting fake and inflated data? This is sad.