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Can't speak for other campuses as they've sprung up in the past year or so.
LMAO kapamsol is just 8 classrooms in a obscure corner of 9th Floor of the Mithibai building. We didn't have a dedicated corridor, and yet somehow overall more facilities than GLC/PG/KC? Hell PGLC is on 8th floor of the Mithibai but at least they have a dedicated library and moot court room.
GLC's fee is approx. 12k per year. If you factor in the living cost, it is a much better ROI compared to NMIMS along with a mile head placement committee and freedom to intern.
Calling us “these private law college kids” shows a lot about how humble you can be.
No no no no no
It's the Sasta Jindal in the same way Redmi is Sasta iPhone.
Undoubtedly, GLC, ILS, MNLUs etc have better reputation and likely to get you better entries five years from now, even if MNLU Mumbai didn't have great placements in their first batch.
However, even other lesser known traditional colleges like Rizvi or KC are more likely to get you more time to intern etc, which could land in better PPOs.
That said, if you don't care about internships & PPOs as much, have money to burn, and do not wish to go outside Mumbai to clearly better options such as Symbi - Pune/Noida, Jindal, or NIRMA, then NMIMS Law would be a good option for you.
Just don't go there expecting to get good professors, industry name, help in good internships, or placements.
Personally, however, I don't see why you'd want to study law at a college that has a 'institute of management studies' in its name — it shows that not only is the law school not well established/respected in the outside world, but even within the NM group of institutions, the law school is neither a priority nor likely to see a lot of development.
All the best, nevertheless!
The only thing these institutes are famous for is being an easy entry for Maharashtra students. There is no diversity or any competition whatsoever.
Placements- yes, you'll have to work on your own for the most of it as the cell has started to get more active in the recent years only. 3 people got in SAM on Day 0 this year, some got in Bharucha, Argus, WG, DSK, etc. Tier 1 placements mostly depend on your own work and self as the college has started the Day 0 process just this year itself.
Speaking of faculty, just like any other college, some are great while some are just meh.
Mumbai is the biggest advantage of this college. During the 5th year we have classes for only 2 hours daily as the college wants you to intern throughout the year in the final year. 4th year classes stretch for about just 4 hours (getting over by 1) so that gives you ample chance to intern in the last 2 years.
If you have better options do go there and I won't act as the prospectus of my college. Whereas if you don't have the conventional top 8-10 colleges in hand, then yes this would be a good choice.
Sure the 5th years had day zero this year, but do you know how many firms came? You’ll be surprised. Also for the ones placed, they’re some of the best from the batch, which says a lot about the students in college, rather than the placement cell itself.
As far as faculty is concerned, yes some of them are the best one can have, and others are decent.
International moots? Yes you can participate, and so can any student from any college whatsoever, but is there enough guidance available in preparation? Mentors? Nothing. What’s the point in such participation?
In all, it’s a decent college, but only if you’re willing to work super super hard. Do not depend on the placement cell no matter what they say or how many placement figures they come up with. Take advises from your seniors, they’re some of the best you’ll have.
Yes, we have a clinical moot court course for a semester and the moot court teacher herself guides students in preparation for tournaments.
The best thing at which the PC and the officials of PC are is to steal credit from the success of students and colouring it with the efforts of PC. The PC doesn't do anything tbh. God knows why the faculty in charge of PC is getting paid. Some of the 5th years can give more information and tips than him.
SLS P maybe yes
I've first hand seen SymB and can tell you they atleast have a better PC than us. (2023 Batch)
Such lovely lovely ppl
If you still have the option to go for better colleges, please do so. Do not make the mistake of coming here. At the time this thread was published the college was better off than it is today (admittedly still pretty garbage), but the status quo remains and you could possibly end up jeopardising your career.
After the batch of 2023 passes out, there’s hope for only a few out of the million kids that have been admitted in the tiny, one corridor college. The administration will wear you down to the point of no return. There is nothing in the name of facilities, so do not expect anything they are promising you. There is no locational advantage - their attendance policy is horrible and the change in leadership has the faculty’s hands tied.
Placement rate is 0% by the way (and no, PPOs don’t count, this college doesn’t get to claim our hard earned PPOs as THEIR placement success).
To the juniors: please don’t defend this college to inflate your ego in public. Demand accountability. Work better at your internships instead of showing off pictures of tier 1 firms on instagram. Be respectful and professional at work. Your only chance at redemption is to show recruiters you are capable of being hired despite the reputation in the market.
I work with a large Mumbai law firm now. And general perception in office is NMIMS interns aren’t the brightest. They are kids wanted to move to Mumbai and whose parent is a crorepati businessman in someplace like Indore or Udaipur or Ranchi. Now if you set to inherit millions, you don’t need placements and T1 hours anyway. You’ll get a job /PPO through a parent’s phone call. You can work at Amarchand for few years before joining the family business.
But if you do need placement assistance or you need student loans to study in NMIMS, this college is not for you. NMIMS simply doesn’t offer return on investment you’ll need to pay off those loans. And you’ll have to work harder than everyone else to dispel reputation of NMIMS students in law firms. You are much better off paying nominal fees at Mumbai Uni colleges and interning your ass off.
Additional context: My fees were 5lakhs total for the course. First job (no thanks to placement cell) after graduation was 4.8lpa. You do your ROI calculations.
TBH, from the people who got their PPO's, (BA and BBA), all worked hard (talking about those placed with: AZB(2), Khaitan(2), L&L (1), SAM (1), WG (2). I dont think anything related to parents knowing the Managing Partner is true.
Very true as far as recommendation is concerned for SLSP and JGLS. Much Much better as far as placements are concerned.
The Placement Cell is shit and the Student Heads of the PC don't do anything except giving false hopes.
In case you are from 9th floor, letting you know that in no way has anyone been placed via college.
The irony is that the ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ sends across job opportunities as sales executive.
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Repeat a year / choose GLC or Jindal or Symb Pune.
Oh also, I DON'T have any contact in SAM, just saying before you allege ki ye bhi contact se mila hai.
Point being, everyone who is placed right now is by their own hard work and months of efforts, so please apna frustration kahin aur nikal lo.
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1. No commercial astuteness on the black letter law despite having two Tier 1 internships.
2. Unable to explain the range of work covered in past internships.
3. Some random posts in a fest called Meraki mentioned in extra curricular activities instead of Moot Courts (Oralist, Researcher &/or Research Assistant positions) or Publications.
4. Numerous typos made in the cover letter as well as the CV.
For those who have "made it" are by far the ones that clearly get through the door via references or the likewise. My peers at other Tier 1s also do not consider KPMSOL for internships so thats how it is. Nmims has a great MBA programme though, law is just not the same.
No wonder why we recruit from Symbiosis, JGLS, MNLU, GLC and so on.
Despite the adverse environment we have received, some of the alumni/students have managed to considerably upskill themselves to be at par with (or better than) their peers from other colleges.
Must you be so daft to engage in this argument in 2023?
50% of the batch is interning without any contacts at all tier one places including KCO, SAM, CAM, AZB and NDA. Of the 9 people who have got PPOs yet at AZB (2), KCO (2), SAM (1), L&L (1), Spice Route (1), WG (2), have worked months off, gone through assessments and multiple rounds of interviews to finally be given the offer.
Please don't malign their hard work by saying that it is all by contacts, because IT IS NOT. It takes a lot to prove yourself amongst the top NLU crowd and otherwise without ANY assistance from college, PC and otherwise, perform exceptionally along with managing unreasonable attendande and internals policies, and then bag a place in any firm.
There are still atleast 10 people who are working too hard to get a position across firms, despite the odds including a hiring freeze across top tier firms. Can personally vouch for it. SO PLEASE, COME OUT OF THE FACADE OF CONNECTIONS AND REFERENCES. There are people making it on merit and kindly respect that if not anything else.
I graduated from Symbi, Pune in 2014 and am doing fairly well in the Banking and Finance team of a Peninsula Corporate Park lala Mumbai law firm. A few months ago while I had gone to grab myself a cup of coffee when the hours got rough, I had a parent of this KPMSOL chap approach me with a chunk of cash (yes I mean it ran multiple thousands) to get her an internship at the firm urgently. Told the frustrated father to get in touch with the partners directly since the HRs do not give a damn but he refused to make any amends. Now she works at a tier 1 at One World since her dad tested the waters yet again (and hit bulls eye).
All I'm saying is that the law school (KPMSOL) has a very bad name across the swanky law firms which you'll whine about. While I am nobody to judge you guys, your college tag matters and securing SLSP, JGLS or GLC (if not the top 6-7 NLUs) would make more sense than fighting on threads like these.
Best of luck!!
However, everyone who has been placed in the current graduating batch has worked their asses off for it, very silently for 4 years of law school. Most of them have high GPAs, great co-curricular achievements, and high ranking publications.
The “nepo” girl at KCO has merits your logic can’t even fathom. The “couple” at L&L and KCO come from medical and pharmaceutical backgrounds respectively. These people have more than 25 internships on their CV out of which the most recent ones are in Tier 1 firms. They’ve worked their way from the ground up. I know each of them personally and have seen their troubles, efforts, breakdowns, and achievements with my own eyes.
Surely a better college would have made it much easier for them. But stop living under a rock. They are self made people who have hustled nights on end for every opportunity they have gotten. Stop with the self-pity and the false self-assurances that they have made it through contacts because each of them have worked hard for endless hours to crack every interview and every internship opportunity.
Imho, the disintegration of the earlier placement cell of kpmsol was the beginning of the end of the reputation of this college. Add to it the change in leadership which the university carried out.The present placement cell is just two fresher from the LLM batch of the college itself who have zero knowledge about placements, zero industry connects, are full of themselves and thoroughly useless. hell, they cant even draft an email in proper english so it's fitting if the companies are unwilling to come to the college for placements.
The present dean, while a very nice lady, is an academician herself and her focus is not on the commercial aspect of students' careers but rather, on increasing the academic culture at the college - therefore, stricter attendance norms, lower marking in exams and in internal metrics. (Read the peer learning part to understand why these attempts will not work)
Placements in general:
your only hope is if you quite literally work your ass off like the few in our batch and secure good placements (e.g. the couple at L&L and KCO, the girls at SAM, etc). The contacts obviously help and honestly, it's childish to take offence at anyone securing any benefits through that.
Additionally, the college sucks - attendance policy is restrictive, the faculties are sub-par (majority is just ad-hoc and most of the good ones have left), academic rigour is next to nil, and if you join the college in the coming batches, peer learning will be a joke as well because the cut off is too low and the fees is touching the sky, making it an ideal place for rich kids with sub-par skills to come and enjoy the nightlife.
for this batch, if anything is to change in this college, the placement coordinators (adarsh and bismita) need to be let go immediately and the seasonal faculties should use their contacts to secure at least a day zero (even for name sake) after which, hire someone with an understanding of the legal industry for placements.
At the end of the day, it's a money minting avenue for SVKM, dont expect education or even for them to have your back.
If you are taking admission, then you must be fan of Dungeons and Dragons. Talking about placements, Mumbai has decent placements, but other campuses are not that great. Students are figuring it out on their own, and law placements are the worst except in Mumbai. NMIMS could be a good choice for some reasons, like a lavish campus and modern classrooms, but I don’t think it is a good place for personal growth.
But if you are a parent reading this, then you have got everything covered here at NMIMS. You will get called for PTMs and even receive daily college check-in and checkout timings on your phone, so you can catch your child red-handed when they bunk college. And for students who are taking admission: when you feel they cannot do worse, just wait for your next semester for a big surprise. The first thing NMIMS requires you to do is deposit the fee, then make you sign an anti-ragging undertaking because the University itself is more than enough to take ragging for all the students. (Everything said above is my personal opinion, you are free to give it a try)