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Iβm in my final year of law school and honestly feeling pretty confused about career choices right now. Iβm really interested in criminal law and litigation, but at the same time I also need to be realistic about money.
I know criminal law usually doesnβt pay much in the beginning, and most people start with very low stipends. But I wanted to ask, are there any criminal law chambers or firms (especially in Delhi) that pay juniors something like βΉ40β50k per month from the start, or at least close to that?
Iβm not expecting shortcuts or overnight success, just trying to understand if such options even exist and what kind of skills or background they usually look for. Any advice or leads would really help.
Thanks in advance!
Although I had no idea about the 8-10 crore PA income 15 to 20 years in. That's huge
Sls Noida
Ms Ramaiah school of law
I am willing to work my ass to get into boutique firm or a upper t2 firm and slowly work my way up.(I have zero connections in the legal industry). Your insight will be much appreciated
As a result, most students were from elite backgrounds. The NLSIU fest was called Strawberry Fields, whereas a fest today would probably be named after Diljit song.
Therefore, the next generation will not be the ones who speak/argue well, but the ones who embrace science and tech and know how to leverage them.
Was checking industry standard for law firms and realised that the data on in-house roles is very limited so will share what I personally know in the hopes that it helps others negotiate better. Have an offer for 18 LPA for a tech MNC. ITC is paying 24 LPA for 4 years PQE. IBM is paying 17-19 LPA for 4 years PQE. Wipro blackstone is paying 14 LPA for 2Y PQE. Godfrey Philips is at 18-19 LPA for 3.5Y-4Y PQE. Infosys is offering 18 LPA for 3Y PQE. KPMG is paying 13-16 LPA for 4Y PQE
Note that above salaries are for lateral hires and may not be an accurate representation for everyone in those roles with same PQE.
Ps: No trolls please. Genuine answers only.
Amazon 3PQE is a joke.
Starting level as Amazon Legal Team is Associate Corporate Counsel where they expect people to have 5 to 7 PQE.
Β£2.4k rent is on the low side. There are lots of variables of course, but I'm guessing you are either living outside London and commuting (tough with MC hours) or in a 2 bed flat somewhere. That figure is what you'd probably spend for a modest 2 bed flat in a nice area or a nice two bed flat in a much less nice area (on average). Your kid is probably fairly young too - you probably cannot live in a flat like that long term (although car suggests you probably are living outside London and commuting which means you may have a bigger place).
As a rough estimate, a nice family house in a decent area will be around double that (if not a lot more) - and that will come from after tax income. Also, in the long term you won't want to be dependent on rent and will need to have saved the deposit on a mortgage which is another game entirely...
Ditto school fees - Β£2k per month is for one child. If you have 2 (or god forbid, 3) - well, that's all coming from after tax income and at your income level that's near enough 50% tax.
Also, unless you are in the tiny minority who makes MC partner, or makes it to the top of an inhouse job (ie, MD legal at a bank), your income is already pretty close to topping out. You can still go up, but you are not going to double your income.
In short - your costs are going to keep going up, and your income is probably not. You don't really have any slack left for the long term unless you make partner or your spouse starts earning as much as you do. Forget saving a lot - you'll be lucky if you can just hang on to your current lifestyle especially if you have more children.
I don't mean to suggest you're badly off or anything - you're making a high income and living a comfortable lifestyle - and if necessary you can take kids out of private school etc - I'm just pointing out that one does not come to London (especially with a family) to save money..
-> UK's economy has been struggling so there are less jobs, and a lot of competition from students all over the world to do 4 year traineeship and be paralegals.
-> US has the jobs and the economy but there are too many barriers to entry.
If you're looking for a way out an MBA has plenty of finance, M&A and strategy options but this also comes with a grind as the market is very competitive. But at least you can find people willing to interview.
I support SILF.
The Trinamool Congress filed a counter-petition, alleging that the central agency has seized documents on the party's strategy and ideology -- a claim the ED has denied.
"The ED is bullying. They have stormed. They have searched," TMC Counsel Menaka Guruswamy told the single-judge bench of Justice Suvra Ghosh today, to which ED counsel SV Raju said, "No need for drama".
"We are not on caveat. We are not party in the SC case... In this matter, I want to make three points. One -- we are not party in the Supreme Court. Two -- data belonging to a political party was searched. We want our political data saved. Political data forms political ideology. Political jurisprudence is under question today. Three -- We respectfully request our political data be returned," Guruswamy said.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/trinamool-probe-agency-petitions-over-i-pac-dismissed-over-to-top-court-10748834
Rare example of a senior counsel invoking jurisprudential theories in court. The term βpolitical jurisprudenceβ is used by modern legal theorists and means as as follows:
Political jurisprudence is a field of legal theory that views law as inseparable from politics, analyzing how governmental authority is formed and maintained, and understanding legal decisions as part of a political process where judges act as political actors influenced by societal forces to institutionalize political preferences
. It examines the fundamental relationship between law and the political (the way authority is imagined and established) rather than just politics (day-to-day governance), focusing on concepts like the State, sovereignty, and freedom, often tracing its roots to thinkers like Hobbes, Rousseau, and Schmitt.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/6A485F44A1B9DBB95B2A92FA8AAE39E3/S2071832223000445a.pdf/the-political-jurisprudence-of-paul-w-kahn.pdf
Cerebral arguments by a cerebral lawyer. β₯οΈ The bar benefits by having NLSIU-Oxford toppers and hopefully this is the future direction of advocacy in India. π
surviving is not the solution or modus operandi
living is
surviving in the initial years is fine, but not all the time.
Or other parts of their lives suffer.
https://x.com/RajeshwariRW/status/2011095390662377514
Somebody suggest me to apply to openings in the general corporate team. But I was Wondering if there are any others which can be well suited.