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Guts to quit. Don't be affected.
I already know enough of your character.
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So throwing around words like 'patriarchal insecurity' and moralising after calling me an irredeemable dolt (with horrible spelling) doesn't make your position on this issue any better. Rather, it just deflects from the real issues. We have all seen enough 'where there is smoke, there is fire' comments from women. Women set those standards. Here, someone has spoken about the smoke. Look for the fire.
Your rush to defend the unnamed woman in this unnamed team without an inch of uncovering what may have happened speaks volumes on how you would adjudicate gendered disputes. It's prejudging it. In simple terms, women too should face a process of scrutiny rather than squirming out of their responsibility. All of this should actually trigger a talk with HR. Again, women set those standards.
Finally, someone with power over someone else and the larger team is, by default, to be held to a higher standard. The optics of a team and disaffection shown by a team should be something a partner should have a reasonable idea about. That comes with the territory of being a partner. At least a good one.
If you really believe women and men should be held to the same standard in a society such as ours which is deeply patriarchal and continues to be extraordinarily discriminatory towards women, you have merely confirmed yourself as yet another misogynist, insecure, failure of a man. Perhaps this is the problem with your generation. Also explains why women find many of your ilk completely insufferable. Which is why they gravitate towards older men. If you do not understand such basics, you are already beyond the point of redemption. Continue barking up the ridiculous tree of equality and continue being a woman hating failure.
Having to read what is just dressed up victimhood when what fuels this is just simple craven ambition with zero accountability when in power - gives most of us a headache. Just another poor excuse of an argument.
Listen - we noticed how how you systematically pushed the conversation towards women's discrimination in a thread that began with women engaging in questionable conduct. Its a classic but its sure getting old.
Your response has been nothing short of cover up and another ignonimous look away. Most of us are tired of this uninteligent shtick. Too bad it barely works and glad some women here called it out.
You should be politician, but then I guess you probably are where you stand right now.
One of the things I have noticed about women in high places is how similar they are to men when it comes men in terms of abusive tendencies. They are way better at manipulation which often cover their tracks better. Whereas the same is brazen with the men.
This is something which I noticed a lot more after all Epstein bruahaah. Woman are quite happy to get ahead by any means. Did you see that Goldman lawyer's mails? A lot of women's solidarity is window dressing. Its out of pocket when the real issues for women are on the line.
So cut the crap madam. This is coming from a woman.