https://www.barandbench.com/news/first-generation-non-nlu-lawyers-struggle-get-accepted-chambers-law-firms-supreme-court

Nice. So that means you're not gonna address the problems of NLUs? You are Chancellor of NSLIU, NUJS and GNLU. What have you done for them? How man y visits to Jindal and how many to these places?

I genuinely cannot understand why my comment was mass downvoted and marked trollish. I can think of only two possible explanations. One is that the readers of LI and the moderator were upset at my criticism of DYC for asking NLUs to teach in Hindi and regional languages, LI readers and the moderator probably believe that the language of instruction at NLUs should be Hindi, Tamil, Bengali, Telugu etc, depending on the location. Perhaps they find the current curriculum, with a lot of material published by British and American jurists, and written in English of a very high standard, too demanding and elitist.

Another explanation could be that the pro-reservationists of LI (who are the overwhelming majority) were upset at my statement that caste, EWS and domicile quotas make NLUs LESS elitist and DEFEAT Chandrachud’s argument of NLUs being elite. They probably think that NLUs are elitist despite reservation, because of the curriculum.

A bit of both, then?

They’re there because they topped an exam you didn’t. And because their universities enforce attendance and have steep grading and yours doesn’t. Market perception doesn’t happen in a vacuum. If GLC started enforcing attendance and having difficult exams and steep grading- five years from now law firms would be lining up to hire from GLC. This isn’t some immutable characteristic that needs to be protected. It’s a very mutable one which you can change.

Chuk your perception mate, clearing an exam which is meant solely for shakespears and ICSE folks doen't warrant anything about the competance of the lawyers in NLUS. Most NLU folks wouldn't last 2 seconds in fornt the knowledge and skills and real-industry stalwarts like Company Secretaries and TLC folks. Just admit for once you are living in a bubble created a decade ago.

Those TLC folks don't even know how to use Manupatra/SCC, most of them are not aware that apart from the act there can be some rules and regulations to govern the actions prescribed under the act. Most of them don't even know how to write a legal proposition properly either in English or their local language. These TLC guys cannot compete with most NLUs students because latter have the framework and resources to develop their skills while former doesn't.

And no firm is willing to teach an A0 how to use Manupatra/SCC or some other specialised platform while paying 15+ LPA to them.

That directly translates to "money is directly proportional to your standing in this field". People from less expensive law clgs cannot compete with elite NLUs and jindal due to lack of those resources so thats kinda money and power game my dear, it has nothing to do with actual skills or knowledge.

Kid than ask your government to subsidise the education at those so called elite institutions as they do for IITs.

And all this lack of money is an excuse for your incompetence. I too was poor, living in a t-2 city with my father earning 25K PM in a family of 4 with me and younger brother. I didn't take any coaching studied on my own, got into a T-1 NLU after failing to get any NLU once, got means based scholarship and took a loan to fund my studies. Toiled for 5 years, and got a PPO at a tier-1. During internships in Delhi, I used to stay with some relative or other to save costs and skipped lunches because I couldn't afford them then.

And I am not the only one to do this, there are far many who might me poorer than me, but they all worked hard and didn't not make hue and cry.

No. It directly translates to- students with resources to learn the law will be better able to learn the law. Every NLU kid learns in first year how to research, how to find the law, where to find it, and how to write a basic brief on it. I have met many smart people from non-nlus who didnt know how to insert footnotes into a word doc after they had an LLM. That is not about money- after a point- an employer who wants certain quality of work and doesnt want to teach year 1 legal methods to his employees will select for NLUs.

If you want that to change- you are better off asking your university why they arent teaching you things that make you competitive in the market and capable of doing a law job. It wont do to try and guilt NLU kids by saying theyre privileged and rich. Many of them arent rich, and knowing SCC Online isnt a privilege one is born with- its a skill one can learn.

Economists largely use R and Stata for econometric research. No economist from whatever random university is accusing others of elitism and class privilege because they know how to use R and Stata- the tools of the trade.

I didnt say anything about whether the exam itself is tough enough. I think the exam should be much much much more tough. I cracked it without tuition and I went to state board school. Most of my batchmates didnt come from ICSE. a greater proportion of Jindal/ Amity students will have an elite background than NLU students.

I also didnt say anything about whether NLU students would be better professionals than students from other colleges.

I said two simple things. They passed an exam you didnt- however poor that exam is. And their university has mandatory attendance, difficult exams and steep grading. These two things put together mean more than all the internships done year round where youve learned nothing and followed someone around and bought them tea and done their laundry. They tell employers that they can expect a minimum basic thing from NLU graduates. They will turn up for work consistently, and they will at bare minimum- know the basics of legal research and writing.

If you want to end NLU elitism- convince your university to enforce attendance, and to make exams tougher and grading steeper. It really is as simple as that.

I don't want to generalise nor do I intend to downgrade people from TLCs or Non-Nlus but personally and most of my batchmates have had a different experience around peers from such colleges even the premium private ones. We have seen the difference in the quality of work and the efficiency that people from both types of institutions bring to the table. I would say rather than ranting may be upskill yourself to your fullest potential and then see the wonders it may do for you. PS - Even people from Nlus who do not put in effort and hard work eventually either can't pace up or face the same fate as other people from other institutions.

Is it so hard to understand? NLUs don't matter and they are NOT part of the national narrative. They are not important. No one cares about state universities, and they provide the best punching bags. Not a single NLU VC dares even to speak up, and the so-called "Roads" scholars are irrelevant.