India is the only major democratic country in the world where we haven't see such protests. I wonder why? Is it because it's elections season and student unions are busy campaigning? Is it because some colleges have exams or internships? Is it because of the heat?
Why should india protest in a matter of no importance to this country?
We already have minorities being killed and persecuted in our neighbouring countries. We should protest for them not for Palestine or Israel.
And for the protests in American universities, The day tik tok gets banned, these students will come back to normal routine. I am pretty sure they cannot even point where Palestine on map is.
Why are you so excited for a country that has nothing to do with our nation? Not everyone has freetime like JNU or Galgotia students or you to protests in matter not affecting you.
Advice for other law students is to speak up for injustice in our own country and Christians, Buddhists, Jains, hindus in neighbouring countries and stop following the trend of Western countries. We have African infra with American politics rn.
Leave alone neighbouring countries, just see the poisonous rhetoric being directed at minorities in our country itself during the election campaign. Let us solve our own problems first. Anyway as someone else pointed out we don't have any major investment in Israel.
Well said. The way minorities are being treated in the neighboring countries (Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, China, and Maldives), has an impact on India. Our students must protest for faster implementation of CAA and NRC. If they do, the rest of the country will stand with them. Who cares about what happens in Palestine or Ukraine? They are irrelevant.
With the likes of Brij Bhushan, Revanna and Kuldeep being present in India, there should be no shortage of reasons to protest in India. Modi ji would know. He is a big fan of all three
Most indian universities are public universities. Even if they are/were not, private universities in India do not hold significant investments in Israel (unlike US universities). India has also historically been pro-palestine (barring small chunks). Physical college protests in India make 0 sense.
These are luxury beliefs spouted by rich students in elite universities. They’ve never once worried about how they will get a job after college. India doesn’t have many of those students - India has poor and middle class students who would thank their stars if they got an education that would get them a job.
This is the kind of thing cowards say to justify the fact that they only act in self interest. Do you know how many Indian students went to jail during emergency? Students are young enough to believe in a better world and to act on it. If everyone was a self interested sheep, India wouldn't have independence, women wouldn't have rights, slavery would exist and the Vietnam war wouldn't have stopped.
Yes I do know how many Indians went to jail. My parents went to jail during the emergency. Do you think they did so because of some virtue signalling internet fad? To be seen as cool or progressive? Or because it was actually affecting their lives materially and because their friends and professors were being jailed by a dictator ? Because they didn’t want to go from being full citizens to subjects?
I’m not saying people should be self interested. I’m saying there’s a difference between movements that are ground up - that involve the rights of poor people materially and that require protests because other ways to work within the system have failed. And ideological commitments to a never ending war in the Middle East. Those guys have been killing themselves and each other for ages. It’s a dumb religious thing that makes peace impossible. Buying into one sides narrative or pretending this is morally simplistic and trying to get arrested for it ? That’s a luxury belief.
I don’t think the students who support Hamas would particularly support womens rights. Idk. Just a thought.
It’s not like the Vietnam war at all. The reason majority of Americans by 1960s were against the Vietnam war was because people they know had been drafted and killed in a war at the edge of the world that America was losing. The equivalent protest would be Palestinians protesting Hamas because they were provoking a war that would kill their babies and would be lost. Or Israelis protesting a war because they didn’t want the hostages or Israeli soldiers to be killed. It is deeply sad that these protests have not happened - apart from stray protests in Israel. And they’ve not happened because this is a never ending religious war. The equivalent is not American and English college students protesting to tell two non American non English people how to behave. And doing so from a place of profound ignorance about the conflict.
It’s cowardly to fight to put food on the table for your family rather than to spend days in some protest in a war on the far side of the world ? Selfish to want to survive and thrive and to want to help your family and those around you ?
We should let medical bills for parents and education bills for siblings go unpaid , and waste our time not getting educated at one of these universities where it’s impossible for regular folks to even get in to perform your idea of bravery ? Which is going and sitting in some tent and yelling slogans about a conflict with people who know nothing about that conflict ?
That’s what you want people to do ?
It’s brave to be fighting as a soldier in the conflict right now - you’re putting your life at risk. But these protestors are not actually gonna make a difference and they know they will be safe the entire time. Because they are physically not in Gaza- they’re on their school campus and no one is going to hurt them. What’s brave about that ?
More important than protesting would be to send aid and make public appeal to end the war. Both of which India has done, unlike US (which has vetoed UN resolutions for ceasefire). Hence protesting against the US establishment in US varsities makes sense, in India, not so much.
oxford is a university the educates its students. in india we have vocational training colleges that are called universities because they award a degree. now go back to your classes.
A friend shared a video of PK on his Jan Suraaj yatra in Bihar, PK seems to have taken an adversarial tone in reaching out to the future supporters of his party. In one of his speeches he said and I translate and paraphrase: irrespective of whatever people of Bihar may actually know they would surely claim to know about politics, there are no roads no sanitation no school yet the elderly in a village asked me about my thoughts on Gaza, we should think about our roads and schools first and then think about the state then the country and then elsewhere.
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We already have minorities being killed and persecuted in our neighbouring countries. We should protest for them not for Palestine or Israel.
And for the protests in American universities, The day tik tok gets banned, these students will come back to normal routine. I am pretty sure they cannot even point where Palestine on map is.
Why are you so excited for a country that has nothing to do with our nation?
Not everyone has freetime like JNU or Galgotia students or you to protests in matter not affecting you.
Advice for other law students is to speak up for injustice in our own country and Christians, Buddhists, Jains, hindus in neighbouring countries and stop following the trend of Western countries. We have African infra with American politics rn.
I’m not saying people should be self interested. I’m saying there’s a difference between movements that are ground up - that involve the rights of poor people materially and that require protests because other ways to work within the system have failed. And ideological commitments to a never ending war in the Middle East. Those guys have been killing themselves and each other for ages. It’s a dumb religious thing that makes peace impossible. Buying into one sides narrative or pretending this is morally simplistic and trying to get arrested for it ? That’s a luxury belief.
I don’t think the students who support Hamas would particularly support womens rights. Idk. Just a thought.
It’s not like the Vietnam war at all. The reason majority of Americans by 1960s were against the Vietnam war was because people they know had been drafted and killed in a war at the edge of the world that America was losing. The equivalent protest would be Palestinians protesting Hamas because they were provoking a war that would kill their babies and would be lost. Or Israelis protesting a war because they didn’t want the hostages or Israeli soldiers to be killed. It is deeply sad that these protests have not happened - apart from stray protests in Israel. And they’ve not happened because this is a never ending religious war. The equivalent is not American and English college students protesting to tell two non American non English people how to behave. And doing so from a place of profound ignorance about the conflict.
We should let medical bills for parents and education bills for siblings go unpaid , and waste our time not getting educated at one of these universities where it’s impossible for regular folks to even get in to perform your idea of bravery ? Which is going and sitting in some tent and yelling slogans about a conflict with people who know nothing about that conflict ?
That’s what you want people to do ?
It’s brave to be fighting as a soldier in the conflict right now - you’re putting your life at risk. But these protestors are not actually gonna make a difference and they know they will be safe the entire time. Because they are physically not in Gaza- they’re on their school campus and no one is going to hurt them. What’s brave about that ?