It is a known fact that GNLU and NUJS both are the fastest growing NLUs in the entire country. While GNLU has seen tremendous growth in the last few years, NUJS has also kept pace. Only both these NLUs look likely to challenge the present hegemony of NLS and NALSAR at the top. Why are other T-1 NLUs not being able to keep up with the growth pace of GNLU and NUJS?
Sorry to burst your bubble, NLUD has been better than all of these over the past few years. Maybe you've forgotten how NLUD buried NUJS over the last decade and how GNLU is still not even near its league. NALSAR is hanging on only because of its older alum base. For that matter, so is NLS.
How exactly did NLUD 'bury' NUJS? You trolls keep spewing the rhetoric but never have any concrete fact to show for it. Your placements are behind NUJS, your faculty exodus is still taking place, you have got fewer number of Rhodes during the last decade, your research score last year NIRF was actually below NUJS.
Between 2014 to 2024, NLUD and NUJS have 3 Rhodes each. The previous 2 for NUJS were from earlier batches due to NUJS being older. Our placements are not the only metric and for the number of people here interested in slaving out in corporate firms, they are quite good, our faculty is still better than NUJS and NALSAR. As far as burying NUJS goes, weβve won the NIRF race and any other ranking for that matter, we donβt have some NRI quota for entry by rich kids, we literally have a smaller batch size without a domicile quota. Which college would you choose?
For that matter GNLU only lacks with regard to the faculty, they also have 3 Rhodes in past 6 years. and the fact that the students are almost equivalent to NLUD and NUJS with a lesser quality faculty, speaks volumes about the competency of the students
GNLU students are not of any great competency. Hardly any major international moot wins, whereas between NLUD and NUJS, there's wins in moots from Vis to Man Lachs. Has a GNLU team ever won MukMem or any international ADR tournament? Not really. GNLU is doing well for itself but what it's really known for is its downvoting blitz on LI whenever its students are served a nice helping of humble pie.
The first batch of NLUD graduated in 2013 and not 2014. NUJS 2013 grad got a Rhodes. That makes it 4 versus 3 for all the contemporary batches of NUJS and NLUD, but NLUD people like to play fast and loose with the data when it suits them.
So basically you still didn't show any metric where your students are doing better other than a sour grapes syndrome. As for your current faculty being better than NUJS or NALSAR, that's just your unsubstantiated opinion and not any objective metric, especially since you have not been taught by any faculty from NUJS or NALSAR. In terms of objective criterion like publication, your faculty are not at all ahead. You should really learn how to argue while trying to act superior. As for smaller batch size or domicile quota, since it's not making your students do better than those from NUJS or NALSAR in any way, therefore it's irrelevant in the context of discussion. And NIRF race? You are the only one who put any importance to it, despite having been caught to submit fake data.
So once again, it got proven that all your flexing is just rhetoric, there is nothing substantial behind it.
Buddy, name me even one faculty at NUJS who is as good or renowned as Anup, Yogesh Pai, Dany Mathew or even AK Rai at NLUD. Even others like Ruhi Paul and Darshana Chandra are as good if not much better than most NUJS faculty. And I thought NIRF was a joke? Although, Noojies conveniently cite it to claim a higher research score than NLUD. And the batch size advantage is recent. It's effect will play out over the next 5 years as NLUD proceeds to bury NUJS for good this time. And great, hats off to you, one extra Rhodes whereas we have an entire college that's actually better.
And as far as fake data goes, look at NUJS NIRF 2024 submission. You guys are claiming 20 lakhs as median salary. NLUD seems to have finally calculated it to around 14 lakhs. And guess what, we'll still rank ahead of you NIRF? Keep shouting fake data all you like, no student who takes CLAT/AILET today will prefer NUJS over NLUD.
Buddy, you should really get out of Dwarka once in a while. Of the people you mentioned, other than Anup for P39A, nobody else is recognised as anyone extraordinary in the academic circle, sorry to burst your bubble. They may be decent classroom teachers, only their students can vouch for that, but similar decent teachers exist in all top NLUs. As for their research and publication records, those are nothing but average compared to several NUJS faculty. Most of these people don't even publish regularly, let alone in reputed indexed peer-reviewed journals. Why don't you compare the publications yourself and then come up with stats, before deeming these people top of the line?
As a stubborn on NLS, the general perception here is that NALSAR is nothing compared to us, NLUD has reached our level already, and NLUJ is a sick joke of a NLU. The question is when will GNLU beat NUJS+NALSAR and if it can ever beat NLS+NLUD.
Iβll predict that for you. GNLU wonβt. All their Rhodes have been from minority communities (that doesnβt take away their merit but the West loves a good minority success story), they have a massive quota where Gujarat domicile kids have ranks running to 2000+ in CLAT. So, GNLU might overtake NLUJ, but never the top 4.
It's incredible how much LI users keep lambasting NLUJ despite the facts pointing to how it's doing more well than ever. We recently won Vis East, a student was the second best oralist at Jessup, and a generally well achieved student body while still maintaining a modest batch size, while still holding prestigious events such as the A&O IDNC.
Our only major problem had been a stagnant administration but with our new VC Harpreet Kaur that's clearly not what's in store for at least the next five years. Considering our limited funding and the locational disadvantage the university has managed to outdo itself and the students work harder than ever.
Users here feel the need to pull down NLUJ in order to bring up their own NLUs rather than rely on the merits of their own achievements
First, non one at NLUD cares much for NLUJ. That being said, most of us here view NLUJ as being better than GNLU. The downvotes are all from the GNLU stans who think that having a few Rhodes from minority communities makes them on par with NLUD. FACT: No one chooses GNLU over NLUD if they have the option.
To be considered great, any T1 NLU, must boast great placements, in addition to academic and moots achievements. The Day Zero placements for NLUJ's batch of 2024 were abysmal, and the internal issues with the RCC of NLUJ are known to everyone. While the mooting record has been decent, it cannot solely uphold the college's standards. Furthermore, NLUJ has no Rhodes scholars yet, every T1 NLU has at least one, couple this with low funding. It's difficult to justify why NLUJ should be regarded as a superior NLU compared to GNLU or NUJS. NUJS is significantly ahead but even GNLU appears to be a distant aspiration for NLUJ tbh.
In reality NUJS, GNLU and even Nalsar and NLU Delhi are in danger of losing all Tier 1 jobs to NLS Bangalore with their increased class size.
Look at your faculty, alumni and all other aspects. No NLU is anywhere close to NLS Bangalore and there is absolutely no chance of any NLU to beat it for next 25 years.
Tier 1 jobs are very very limited and they will go in bulk to NLS Bangalore once their 300 student batch graduates in 2028, and to Jindal (believe it or not 44 got CAM in 2023 graduating batch alone, Jindal students secured max number of T1/T2 jobs for 2023 batch, irrespective of batch size).
Nalsar, NLUD, NUJS, NLUJ, NLIU and GNLU are only NLUs where students will get campus placements in T1/T2 law firms other than NLS & Jindal. All others will give LLB degrees but no good law firm jobs.
NLSIU has been behind in placement compared to NALSAR and NUJS even before the batch increase. Take a reality check before trying to pass off your baseless opinions as facts. Your faculty aren't making your students industry-ready.
So basically you still didn't show any metric where your students are doing better other than a sour grapes syndrome. As for your current faculty being better than NUJS or NALSAR, that's just your unsubstantiated opinion and not any objective metric, especially since you have not been taught by any faculty from NUJS or NALSAR. In terms of objective criterion like publication, your faculty are not at all ahead. You should really learn how to argue while trying to act superior. As for smaller batch size or domicile quota, since it's not making your students do better than those from NUJS or NALSAR in any way, therefore it's irrelevant in the context of discussion. And NIRF race? You are the only one who put any importance to it, despite having been caught to submit fake data.
So once again, it got proven that all your flexing is just rhetoric, there is nothing substantial behind it.
And as far as fake data goes, look at NUJS NIRF 2024 submission. You guys are claiming 20 lakhs as median salary. NLUD seems to have finally calculated it to around 14 lakhs. And guess what, we'll still rank ahead of you NIRF? Keep shouting fake data all you like, no student who takes CLAT/AILET today will prefer NUJS over NLUD.
NLUJ prospectives look positive with Prof. (Dr.) Kaur.
Our only major problem had been a stagnant administration but with our new VC Harpreet Kaur that's clearly not what's in store for at least the next five years. Considering our limited funding and the locational disadvantage the university has managed to outdo itself and the students work harder than ever.
Users here feel the need to pull down NLUJ in order to bring up their own NLUs rather than rely on the merits of their own achievements
https://nlujodhpur.ac.in/university/day-zero-batch-2024
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/273191-gnlu-runs-the-show-amidst-a-grim-placement-season
2024's placement season was bad throughout the NLUs, but if you look at the numbers NLUJ has by no means underperformed
In reality NUJS, GNLU and even Nalsar and NLU Delhi are in danger of losing all Tier 1 jobs to NLS Bangalore with their increased class size.
Look at your faculty, alumni and all other aspects. No NLU is anywhere close to NLS Bangalore and there is absolutely no chance of any NLU to beat it for next 25 years.
Tier 1 jobs are very very limited and they will go in bulk to NLS Bangalore once their 300 student batch graduates in 2028, and to Jindal (believe it or not 44 got CAM in 2023 graduating batch alone, Jindal students secured max number of T1/T2 jobs for 2023 batch, irrespective of batch size).
Nalsar, NLUD, NUJS, NLUJ, NLIU and GNLU are only NLUs where students will get campus placements in T1/T2 law firms other than NLS & Jindal. All others will give LLB degrees but no good law firm jobs.