After the recent calls for destruction of temples on campus by some students, jindal acted swiftly and banned all unrecognised and unregistered student political associations.
In light of the recent events that transpired on the University campus, it is imperative to understand the distinction between, being politically aware – i.e., knowing, reading, and understanding your politics, and doing politics – i.e., actively taking steps to propagate your political ideology in a way which is harmful to the social environment and the institutional values. Consequently, while students are encouraged to educate themselves vis-à-vis social, political and cultural issues, exhibiting your beliefs in any manner which is detrimental to the beliefs of others is absolutely prohibited. This is essential to fully take advantage of the egalitarian spaces made available on the University campus, which are meant to cater to the entire marketplace of ideas, and not to a few ideologies.
While JGU prides itself as an Institution of Eminence for providing safe academic spaces, at the same time we cannot ignore the inherent duty that this casts upon the JGU community for using such spaces in a dignified and responsible manner. This implies that while the academic spaces within JGU celebrate the right to free speech and expression, one cannot turn a blind eye towards the reasonable restrictions that must be upheld to ensure that the freedom of others is not violated. In this light, since its inception, the JGU administration has consciously kept the University space absolutely apolitical to cater to neutral academic discussions that explore all sides of an issue / debate(s).
In this regard, please note that:
1. Students are prohibited from officially associating the University with any political organization, even if such student(s) may be part of these organizations in their personal capacity. This is in sync with the fact that the University would not exercise any control over the actions of its students in their personal capacity, however, it is advisable that students exercise discretion and duty of care while they are within the University campus;
2. Students are prohibited from associating themselves with unofficial and unrecognized organizations seeking to do politics on the University campus, like the Safdar Hashmi Reading Circle, the Revolutionary Students League, and other similar student-groups. Consequently, if students wish to start a society, or student-run groups, then they must seek the approval of the relevant University authority;
3. Students organizing public events, including, but not limited to, public discussions, lectures, reading circles, and audio-visual exhibitions, would have an inherent responsibility of ensuring that they (a) take adequate precautions, including permission from the relevant University authority, to conduct such an event, and (b) do not conduct themselves in a manner that is derogatory of the personhood and participation rights of other University stakeholders, and undermines the safety and tranquillity on the University campus; and
4. Students are prohibited from publicly distributing and/or affixing posters, or other written media, that may be interpreted as disruptive of the safety and tranquillity of the University Campus. Accordingly, it is advisable that students get their posters, or other written media, vetted by the relevant University authority, before making it publicly accessible.
It goes without saying that any contravention of these regulations would be treated as a violation of the JGU Code of Conduct for students (“Code of Conduct”), and the concerned students would face appropriate disciplinary action under Clause 28 of the Code of Conduct.
Additionally, the violation of these regulations, in certain cases, may also constitute the violation of the law of the land, including the Indian Penal Code, 1860, and other laws preventing unlawful activities. It is crucial for the students to understand that in case they end up violating the law of the land, it would be difficult for the University authorities to provide any assistance to such students. Consequently, it is of paramount importance that the students understand the objective behind these regulations, and follow them diligently to ensure their own personal safety.
We seek your support in safeguarding and upholding the core institutional values of JGU. Thanking you for your assistance and cooperation.
Bhai bura mat mano. Tech ki halat kharab hai. IIMB and IIML has issues in placing people. Even though there are more tech+mgmt+consulting+startup firms.
One can literally count the Tier 1 law firms in India. Leave the "law and international development" the visa issues for even STEM grads in USA is bad. The European economy is anyway dead.
Point is, buddy, yeh bakchodi chhod do. Sarkari naukri nikal nahi paegi (yeh mat chillana ki I don't give a shit about Govt. job. Nikal ke dikhao Grade A non-contractual job) aur private ka haal behaal hai.
Plus, Goldman Sachs report says, law will be the most disrupted by Gen AI. Maybe the best lawyers won't feel the itch, par average & above average lawyers will. And the Lala firms will lay off anyone deemed disposable.
Toh yeh bakwas of Left, Right, Idealism mat karo. Everything is getting extremely extremely competitive and organised. Even Grade D jobs have dedicated YouTube channels with 20 lakh + views.
So, apna bhala soche. Jindal will march on. And for that matter, any big private/public university. Chillate rahiye angrezi me. Better is get the degree, be self sufficient, create a YT channel like Soch by Mohak and spread awareness and evidence based policy making.
Ugh. I dont like some of the stuff these students do. Israel Palestine- they were just wrong. But just because someone is wrong doesn't mean we dont let them speak. It is supposed to be a free country. If someone "propogating" their views is harming you- You should get some thicker skin. thats not harm. Calling for temples to be destroyed is no different than calling for mosques to be destroyed- its all garbage politics that doesnt help anyone. We shouldnt engage with any of it- but we shouldnt ban any of it either if free speech is important to us.
Right wing folks celebrating here should introspect. Theyre always whinging about moderation on LI- and I agree- there is a bias. But they support censorship when it comes to university spaces? how do you square that circle?
Absolutely shameful violation of constitutional rights by the admin. The students should go to court and get this struck down and the Registrar should resign. If the VC orders it then he too must resign.
They could go to court. It is a private university so expectation of constitutional rights might be - tricky. Calling for resignations might not be the best form of advocacy.
The admin is overreacting. These are super rich students cosplaying as Marxists revolutionaries. They are harmless and will join the capitalist ecosystem and become RW after they graduate. Always happens. I can give many examples and you can ask people in law firms. Marxism is a TikTok fad for them, that’s all.
I agree with you that no calls for genocide are appropriate at universities. Talking about how Hindus built their temples atop destroyed Buddhist and Jaina temples , and this logic of “mandir wahin banayenge” would tear apart the country is not a call for genocide. No one here has attacked Jews or made the university less safe or advocates for overthrowing the Indian government. The people who do want to tear our polity apart with religion and have some new hindutva state - they’re traitors too.
If you cannot think critically about whether one thing is like another - if all you can do is draw false equivalencies and fight culture wars - you’re not demonstrating seriousness or even fealty and patriotism.
How big is the LW group at Jindal? In the first video of the discussion against Ram Mandir, we see one boy and a girl.In the new videos of the eviction, we see the same boy and girl, plus 2-3 more girls. Is that it? Just 4 or 5 people? Also, is the ratio of the gang 1:4 in favour of girls? That's quite interesting and perhaps indicative of the mindset?
Nice! Fascism 101, private university style. Those hundreds of 'stellar law faculty' are taking it like meek sheep, which reveals the real reason they came to JGLS, not to teach but to make money.
What does the great OS and Co have to say about all this? Has been maintaining studied silence here but all the right noises elsewhere to be feted as a left/liberal darling. Champagne socialism?
Why is there so much censorship on this thread? We have just witnessed a shocking violation of human rights in the campus of an elite law school. Law students and lawyers across India need to talk about this and register their protest.
Speak for yourselves. The many alumni who are signing and sending a petition against recent events clearly shows that most alumni are outraged with what's happening.
Bang on. These far-left groups have brought Jindal a bad name and need to be weeded out. Not to mention the obvious hypocrisy and fallacies in their arguments. Vocal against Israel and India, but silent on China, Pakistan, Russia, Iran, Turkey and Qatar. Vocal against BJP, but silent against Congress, TMC and DMK. Why no candlelight protests for the women of Sandeshkhali?
Is the jindal admin acting tough ▮▮
I hope this email finds you well.
In light of the recent events that transpired on the University campus, it is imperative to understand the distinction between, being politically aware – i.e., knowing, reading, and understanding your politics, and doing politics – i.e., actively taking steps to propagate your political ideology in a way which is harmful to the social environment and the institutional values. Consequently, while students are encouraged to educate themselves vis-à-vis social, political and cultural issues, exhibiting your beliefs in any manner which is detrimental to the beliefs of others is absolutely prohibited. This is essential to fully take advantage of the egalitarian spaces made available on the University campus, which are meant to cater to the entire marketplace of ideas, and not to a few ideologies.
While JGU prides itself as an Institution of Eminence for providing safe academic spaces, at the same time we cannot ignore the inherent duty that this casts upon the JGU community for using such spaces in a dignified and responsible manner. This implies that while the academic spaces within JGU celebrate the right to free speech and expression, one cannot turn a blind eye towards the reasonable restrictions that must be upheld to ensure that the freedom of others is not violated. In this light, since its inception, the JGU administration has consciously kept the University space absolutely apolitical to cater to neutral academic discussions that explore all sides of an issue / debate(s).
In this regard, please note that:
1. Students are prohibited from officially associating the University with any political organization, even if such student(s) may be part of these organizations in their personal capacity. This is in sync with the fact that the University would not exercise any control over the actions of its students in their personal capacity, however, it is advisable that students exercise discretion and duty of care while they are within the University campus;
2. Students are prohibited from associating themselves with unofficial and unrecognized organizations seeking to do politics on the University campus, like the Safdar Hashmi Reading Circle, the Revolutionary Students League, and other similar student-groups. Consequently, if students wish to start a society, or student-run groups, then they must seek the approval of the relevant University authority;
3. Students organizing public events, including, but not limited to, public discussions, lectures, reading circles, and audio-visual exhibitions, would have an inherent responsibility of ensuring that they (a) take adequate precautions, including permission from the relevant University authority, to conduct such an event, and (b) do not conduct themselves in a manner that is derogatory of the personhood and participation rights of other University stakeholders, and undermines the safety and tranquillity on the University campus; and
4. Students are prohibited from publicly distributing and/or affixing posters, or other written media, that may be interpreted as disruptive of the safety and tranquillity of the University Campus. Accordingly, it is advisable that students get their posters, or other written media, vetted by the relevant University authority, before making it publicly accessible.
It goes without saying that any contravention of these regulations would be treated as a violation of the JGU Code of Conduct for students (“Code of Conduct”), and the concerned students would face appropriate disciplinary action under Clause 28 of the Code of Conduct.
Additionally, the violation of these regulations, in certain cases, may also constitute the violation of the law of the land, including the Indian Penal Code, 1860, and other laws preventing unlawful activities. It is crucial for the students to understand that in case they end up violating the law of the land, it would be difficult for the University authorities to provide any assistance to such students. Consequently, it is of paramount importance that the students understand the objective behind these regulations, and follow them diligently to ensure their own personal safety.
We seek your support in safeguarding and upholding the core institutional values of JGU. Thanking you for your assistance and cooperation.
Regards,
(Name redacted due to legally india policy.)
Need the videos of evicting the profs who taught these people too, why are they getting away
Thats the only regret
Basically addressed the issue from all sides.
Beginning of the end for Jindal.
One can literally count the Tier 1 law firms in India. Leave the "law and international development" the visa issues for even STEM grads in USA is bad. The European economy is anyway dead.
Point is, buddy, yeh bakchodi chhod do. Sarkari naukri nikal nahi paegi (yeh mat chillana ki I don't give a shit about Govt. job. Nikal ke dikhao Grade A non-contractual job) aur private ka haal behaal hai.
Plus, Goldman Sachs report says, law will be the most disrupted by Gen AI. Maybe the best lawyers won't feel the itch, par average & above average lawyers will. And the Lala firms will lay off anyone deemed disposable.
Toh yeh bakwas of Left, Right, Idealism mat karo. Everything is getting extremely extremely competitive and organised. Even Grade D jobs have dedicated YouTube channels with 20 lakh + views.
So, apna bhala soche. Jindal will march on. And for that matter, any big private/public university. Chillate rahiye angrezi me. Better is get the degree, be self sufficient, create a YT channel like Soch by Mohak and spread awareness and evidence based policy making.
Aage aapki Marzi.
Right wing folks celebrating here should introspect. Theyre always whinging about moderation on LI- and I agree- there is a bias. But they support censorship when it comes to university spaces? how do you square that circle?
Enough of subverting our academic spaces in name of freedom of academic discussion
Do you think that freedom is granted to conservatives or Jews in Harvard or Upenn?
You don't get to attack the sovereign interests of India or say bharat tere tukre honge etc in name of FOE even in lefty colleges anymore
deal with it
Faculty members can fall in line or go look for jobs in USA
If you cannot think critically about whether one thing is like another - if all you can do is draw false equivalencies and fight culture wars - you’re not demonstrating seriousness or even fealty and patriotism.
There was serious discussions on boycotting Jindal for recruitments by many recruiters, these actions have started to smoothen out ruffled feathers
Recruitment scenario is hard as it is, we don't need these ideologues to make our lives worse
we definitely dont want the world to think that Jindal is another Ashoka or JNU