I've secured a rank in CLAT that will land me into NLSIU and also from the marks and expected cutoffs of AILET, I think I will be able to get NLUD as well. This is quite a difficult choice to make, which one should I prefer? I'm from north India but I don't think the geographical element would influence my choice. I'd be glad if I get insights about both the colleges.
There is no conundrum anymore kid. The same threat was faced by GLC when NLS was up and coming. NLS brutally replaced GLC. Now it’s the reins for NLU-D. It’s like a food chain man. A damn true cycle.
There's a huge difference. NLS had replaced GLC etc. by outperforming them. So far, NLUD hasn't outperformed NLS, NALSAR etc in any way other than hype.
I can. If you stop the anti-NLUD misinformation campaign. But that’s a literal co-curricular activity at your NLU, it seems. Until then, learn to take back what you dish out.
Bro literally comparing a dysfunctional traditional law college to the law school that revolutionalised legal education in India, the first NLU and the first five year integrated law program right after class 12th. NLUD students are really dumb.
NLSIU is no longer good. Huge batch, not enough good faculty or infra, domicile quota, haven't got a good placement for years now, VC takes arbitrary decisions that are not conducive to student interests at all. NLUD is currently the number one law school in India by any metric. Proximity to capital and SC, hundreds of good visiting lecturers, huge surplus funds, small batch without domicile quota, good faculty catering to the students' interests, friendly and approachable VC who is understanding too, best exchange programmes, better placement than NLSIU.
I got into both nls and nlud and chose nlud last year. In the batch of 2028 exactly 23 students have dropped NLS and joined NLUD, a number quoted by our VC in his speech as well. Both are very good institutions, but Delhi gives that locational advantage and there are a number of seminars that we get to attend which other NLUs don’t, I won’t demerit NLS either, both are brilliant institutions and you should go for the one closer to your home and ambitions. best of luck!
How is this contested? This is a certified fact now. Stop it with the bias, NLS mod. NLUD, unlike NLS, didn’t go to court and argue that we’re the only national institution. Not our fault that alums of other NLUs failed to stop their domicile quota.
I joined NLUD in 2022 and the numbers of people choosing NLUD over NLS are constantly rising with over 20 (whom I’m aware of) joining NLUD in batch of 28. They’re both some very good institutions and I would suggest to go for NLUD if it’s closer to your home.
NLUD. Not even a debate. Messiah has destroyed NLS. Unless you’d like a congested batch of 300 people with skyrocketing fees over the next five years. You’ll have scrape and compete with some 1500 BALLB kids for even basic opportunities like good moots and internships. NLUD funds its students for all moots and ADR competitions. And the college is only bound to grow. Plus, no domicile quota at NLUD.
NLUD just produced a Rhodes scholar I heard? They’re rising like anything in a very short period of time, and in coming years with state reservation and 240 students in NLS whereas no state reservation and around 100 students NLUD is gonna rise even more for sure. If I was in your place, I would choose NLUD any day.
I joined NLUD in 2022 and the numbers of people choosing NLUD over NLS are constantly rising with over 20 (whom I’m aware of) joining NLUD in batch of 28. They’re both some very good institutions and I would suggest to go for NLUD if it’s closer to your home.
I don’t mind if people still say NLS is better than NLUD for specific reasons but atleast don’t impersonate a NLUD student/alum. It’s pathetic. And the general consensus is that the NLU experience has real value because of the small batch size and academic exposure. NLS was the best when it had a batch size of 80, hell even with 120, it would’ve been number 1. But with 300 plus domicile, it’s shot itself in the foot. NLUD should be preferred now. And after that NALSAR and only then NLS.
The same way as NLUD peeps are posting multiple messages championing their place, despite the language making it obvious that the same people have posted those.
That’s your assumption. None of these comments looks like they’re written by the same person. The query seemed genuine so people respond. And people at NLUD don’t have that much free time. Maybe at your NLU, one guy can afford to span this much.
There are literally three comments with the exact language. If you haven't been taught how to read, then that's nobody else's fault. As for time, clearly you have got enough to keep commenting.
Nlsiu over Nlud. Both colleges are doing great but nls definitely has an edge over nlud in a few aspects. The debate should be nujs vs nlud and not nls/nalsar vs nlud. Not yet atleast. Best of luck!
Government? By that logic UGC rated NALSAR as the highest on NAAC terms. And again by NIRF logic even Symbi was better than NALSAR and NLUJ and NUJS and by the same NIRF logic IIT C is better than IIT B but ask anyone IIT B is numero uno of India. Your fudged up NIRF ranking where you are just 0.1 points ahead of NALSAR and AFTER fudging salary details goes to show NLUD stands NO WHERE except when it comes to trolling at legallyindia.
I see you have left out recruiters, litigators, judges and everyone who actually counts when it comes to determining the quality of law grads. Quite rightly so, too. None of those people acknowledge any kind of superiority of NLUD or its students.
your preference ought to be between nalsar and nlud honestly. nls model of expansion hurts students directly, with their being less opportunities for you in every domain- be it moots or research or placements. in nlud or nalsar, the relatively smaller batches are really important, and ensure that you have a greater chance to pursue the things you want to pursue without being stuck in a cut throat internal struggle as well. im not saying you will not be able to do it, but what you must remember is that all law schools feel incredibly tough, and competing against 120 is way better for your mental health and peace than the more than 200 odd nls is taking in every year.
As an ex-nlud student who had to make the same choice, i think i understand the conundrum. now, the quality of faculty in nls is miles ahead of nlud. However, the chances of you being taught by them are minimal given the expansion. The expansion is what hurts nls students but is beneficial for nls the institution. As a student, your interests will be better looked after by getting into nlud, with decent fac which is better than any other college rn(except nls), and decent exposure to avenues such as upsc and research. You will get better opportunities in getting intnl moots as well, which is immense especially if you discover you are interested in the activity. Also, the geographical factor does count. You will miss home, especially on the bad days, and its much more peaceful to know home's an overnight train away. I did not regret my decision one bit, and in the long run, either way, I'm sure you won't either! Congratulations and all the best!
I'm at NLUD and I would normally suggest NLSIU for its quality of curriculum and peers, but now with the huge batch of 300 students with a domicile quota I think both the quality of education and peers is set to go down the drain. NLUD has maintained its batch size at 120 without domicile quota, but has worse profs than NLSIU. I suspect the quality of peers would also be slightly better at NLUD for your batch.
Hi, I am not really sure about NLUD but the student Culture at NLS is really weak right now. It's extremely congested, getting good faculty is like a lottery, there's high levels of toxicity, really weak student atmosphere and interaction, dwindling student interest in academic rigor among other things.
NLS is still a great school, but it's no longer a place that will spoonfeed you and be a sure shot way to something good in your career.
All of that holds true for NLUD too now, sadly. There are only a handful of decent faculty left here. Getting internships is becoming more and more difficult every day, with the VC focusing only on public law subjects and criminology.
Unless you are a troll (which probably explains your downvotes) this should be very easy choice. Picking NLSIU is a no-brainer here. Picking NUJS/NLU J versus NLUD may be more of a tough choice.
Just pick whatever you want, both are great colleges. I've had kids of both colleges under me and there's not much difference, though i might have a little nlud bias owing to the fact that I've had more nlud interns than nlsiu
Correction: NLSIU students are secure so you will not find them screaming here. Most of the comments here and you can do a comment wise compare, are ALL FROM NLUD students. Reason: They are free and insecure with a false sense of delusion that they are better than NLS and Harvard just because of that stupid NIRF ranking which btw also ranks Savitribai Phule law school and Jamia Milia in top 5 or top 7 law schools of the country and where they fudged their own salary data.
No, NLS students are not “more secure”. It’s just that they also know that Messiah has destroyed their college with his expansion plan. No point pretending like the place is great anymore. If both NLS and NLUD had just 120 kids intake, NLS folks would’ve spammed here just as much. But now, NLUD is easily a better choice.
Obviously its NIRF. Before the bogus NIRF, NLUD received only that much attention as probably GNLU and NLIU. It was only because of the bogus Nirf (doesnt take much ti see its bogusness as evidenced by them ranking Symbi over Nalsar and Nujs and Savitibai and Jamia over NLU J and other NLUs) that they thought that they are even "comparable" to NLS and NALSAR. So it all stems from there. Not to forget that NLUD fudged its salary data to become 0.1 points ahead of Nalsar. They are that big of a sham. Plus You will see the NLUD fools doing the PR work for their admin on legallyindia. Just see the comments above and count them. Almost every comment is "started" by a NLU D troll and then the others are just "replying" to bring them back to reality. But yeah Nirf is a circus, even bigger circus than the NLUD trolls here. Even IIT folks don't pay any attention to Nirf.
Height of bitterness and jealousy, right here. Your inferiority complex won't go away by trolling, loser. Maybe if you work hard like NLUD did, you can one day see what it's like at the top. Although, who am I kidding, you'll be here blaming NIRF for another 10 years even though we at NLUD knew we were as good as the older NLUs far before NIRF certified it.
@Moderator: There have been a spate of trollish comments by people supposedly from NLUD in multiple threads, where abusive words and toxic tones are being used that are obvious to everyone other than you all apparently. While you are rightly marking trollish responses to such comments as thus, the original comments are remaining untouched. Kindly do your bit to keep this place clean and fair, as some commentators would not definitely be amenable to such goals.
Oh quit whining. You guys who couldn’t hack AILET want to troll NLUD but get butt hurt as soon as someone from there responds to put you in your place. What’s pathetic about all is that your trolling seems to have zero effect on stifling NLUD’s rise.
Dude, as an NLUD alum, I am requesting you to calm the F down. You don't need to disparage other people or institutions to make ours proud. Moreover, as someone with a single-digit AILET rank (not that I give a damn about it), it is quite cringe to see these juvenile attempts to make it seem like sitting for it and clearing it is a huge achievement and lifelong honour. You and I did it, others cleared other exams and studied elsewhere. Big whoop! It's what you do after getting into law school that matters.
Yet to see you mention any. You don't get more jobs, more internships, you don't get more scholarships, you don't do better in litigation, entrepreneurship, or win more competitions. You do troll a whole lot more, I will give you that.
You’re a lot more ignorant about our achievements, so I’ll give you that. In any case, your personal opinion about NLUD isn’t worth sh*t. Go cry about our rise elsewhere.
You are crying about it here, hence you are getting called out. Stop whining about non-existing 'better' performance and nobody will bother you. As for my personal opinion, it has got the same worth as yours. If you make random claims about performing better than other students, then either substantiate that or else shut up.
It’s nlsiu ofc but nlu Delhi is on a meteoric rise man. Like bruh, their research output is just getting better day by day. You should come here if you want to join the illustrious alumni which has been dominating our legal landscape for a while.
You should join NLU Delhi if you want to join a rapidly evolving market where everyone is spontaneous and a bit civil service oriented. You will find excellence in both of these institutions.
Research output is not only measured by a death penalty project making the headlines but also the kind of faculty which is present and at the same time the amount of funds being invested. The Journal of Criminology has made decent contributions in the legal realm and also the very same time has presentation on the amended criminal codes in front of the committee on home affairs.
Please mention the faculty research and publication output that is different from the other NLUs. I am well aware of that and can say that the NLUD faculty are not ahead in any parameter including publications compared to faculty from NLS, NALSAR or NUJS. As for the team presentation, if that's what led to the immensely flawed bills, then the quality of that is suspect. There have been other legislations and policies that other NLU faculty have helped draft too. Just without the fanfare.
What a pathetic comment considering NLUD actually provides employment to graduates of the other NLUs. Name one notable work of research from any NLU except NLS, which is even close to NLUD’s. NUJS doesn’t even come close.
There is absolutely no comparison between NLU Delhi and NLS Bangalore. Neither bajpai can remotely match sudhir krishnaswamy nor NLU Delhi faculty anywhere close to NLS. These two things matter the most during 5 years of your study. NLS Alumni body will remain far far ahead of nlu Delhi for next 50 years. No sane person should leave NLS Bangalore for Nlu Delhi just to inhale Delhi air.
Even Nalsar, Nujs, nliu and nlu jodhpur could be ahead of nlu Delhi if we look at alumni and student achievements.
Not only is this a misleading comment in every aspect but it’s also laughable how NLUJ and NLIU have been brought into the equation. Two colleges whose student achievements NLUD overshadows by its Rhodes and moot wins alone. I’ll accept that NLS alumni are still ahead. But what’s your point? That the kids from NLS who won’t get mooting and internships opportunities with such a deadly batch size, will now go and live with alumni as part of their families? I get you have no good arguments to make, but Bajpai literally has decades more experience than Messiah in running an Indian law school. NLS faculty are better for now, but that only hold an advantage if you have a reasonable batch size to ensure student quality and engagement. NLS doesn’t have that anymore. Hell, now they even have some colleges with weird names in an attempt to copy OxBridge and appear more western.
As an NLU alumnus who has been a part of industry and academia, it is just sad to witness this meaningless bickering between students from various NLUs. What they should have done was to learn from each other, as well as from other institutes' best practices, try to implement the same in their own, help other TLCs and private universities and students therefrom in their respective learning and experiences, use the combined strength and camaraderie to address institutional problems. That's what Menon had dreamt of. Instead, we have these inane threads that see hundreds of comments, students bickering like animals, bad blood and waste of time and resources. This anonymous forum has so much potential to do change the legal education scene in the country. Instead, we have hit the doldrums like this. Please work together instead of against each other, the industry is too small and these people are going to be your future colleagues and maybe even friends.
You should calm down. In the real world, fellow NLU grads are fairly nice to one another. It’s the shadow of anonymity that brings out the nasty egotistical side, which is sometimes funny and necessary for objective criticism. This stuff never carries over into the real world. Even non-NLU grads aren’t looked down upon if they are good at their work.
While I'm not the OC, I disagree that the nastiness on display here is necessary for anything constructive. This is also part of the real world, and if people use the anonymity here to help each other instead of this, then this forum will be all the better for it.
If UG & PG - NLS
If PhD - NLS
NLS is still a great school, but it's no longer a place that will spoonfeed you and be a sure shot way to something good in your career.
a nlsiu student says nludNlud student says nlsiu
Just pick whatever you want, both are great colleges. I've had kids of both colleges under me and there's not much difference, though i might have a little nlud bias owing to the fact that I've had more nlud interns than nlsiu
If you're general, NLUD. Remember, don't question this.
You should join NLU Delhi if you want to join a rapidly evolving market where everyone is spontaneous and a bit civil service oriented. You will find excellence in both of these institutions.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/nlu-delhi-to-make-presentation-before-house-panel-on-amended-criminal-codes/article67242019.ece/amp/
Even Nalsar, Nujs, nliu and nlu jodhpur could be ahead of nlu Delhi if we look at alumni and student achievements.
Such a thread of no use.