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Regarding the query:
A lot depends on your own work, scoring internships is harder than the kids that are in an already established programme (by their own hard work ofc) so you gotta go the extra mile for sure, but it's nowhere near impossible. Get in first, and stay on top of things and you'll score them.
Placements lol? It might take some time for the programme to gain a reputation so the first few batches will have to pull their own weight but I don't think it'll be anywhere near the level of catastrophic you or these replies are making it sound.
Anyway, life has a way of putting you in the paths that work out for you. So try it out!
Now this might sound ignorance to you, but it is the truth. Aam aadmi knows NLS and to some extent Faculty of Law, Delhi Univ. Beyond that any other NLU/college is same for 90% of non law people. It is like people know AIIMS, Delhi and respect it, even though Safdarjung is equally tough to get in, but for non NEET people, Safadarjung is another hospital. Faculty of law DU is famous because India's top lawyer politician like Late Arun Jaitley, Kapil Sibbal all have been from this college and many from Faculty of law crack UPSC CSE too.
So, in my opinion, first choice of many Non law people who aren't preparing for Govt. exams and have time & money at their hands, would be NLS. And thus, the competition for NLSAT will increase.
If the Bar Council of India does 2 things - 1. reduces the LLB to 2y and 2. creates a 3y hybrid degree where students take a mixture of live and in person classes on weekends like in ISB PGP Pro, then I think NLSAT competition would increase manifold + would lead to inclusive growth of legal education in India.
2. LLB in NLS is as good as BALLB. No difference in teachings etc. It seems BALLB guys are threatened to lose share in jobs and internships and therefore making all those statements
2. My point is one delayed start to an internship cycle cannot be determinative of corp placements just yet. Maybe you’re right but it’s a little early to say that.
3. My comment had more to do with the weird willingness of people to be derisive and write off this program for seemingly no rhyme or reason. Making evaluations, especially on student quality, without enough data except what individuals may have anecdotally (which is also what my own post is about tbh) shouldn’t determine someone’s choice to join the college.
Additionally, please identify 3 Year programs wherein corp placements are bountiful anyway? I don’t think DU or GLC is placing a significant number of their batch in firms either, especially vis a vis their massive intakes. It’s a toss-up pretty much anywhere but here, at least some of the things NLS gets right you have access to.
1) they did not perform well in moots. Only 2 students from the 2nd year LLB and none from the 1st Year LLB made it to top 50 in the univ moot rankings. In contrast, about 20 students in the top 50 were from the 2nd year BALLB course. This is even after the moot problem was significantly easier than what it used to be and even had publicly available memos on the same problem.
2) The comment above had highlighted the same thing that you will recieve quality legal education but Corp placements would be difficult to secure!
3) We don't consider them as a threat in any way. OP had clearly mentioned that he wants a job out of law school which is very difficult from the LLB program. Personally, I don't think one should pay 12LPA for a legal degree when the chances of securing a job are very less. I would rather go to DU/GLC and get the degree with a much lower cost!
Or is the source of your data: "tRuSt mE bRo" ?
Central University established since 1920s with average annual enrolment of > 50,000 vs a NLU established in late 1980s with average annual enrolment of <100 is pari passu
Using the words of recent meme trend - "Hum karein toh karein kya, bolein toh bolein kya?"
It is funny because there is almost some cognitive dissonance in claiming they are stupid, lazy and incompetent and yet also detesting their very existence on campus. If they're such terrible students and have no prospects, why do you even bother with them at all lol. They're obviously incapable of being a real threat, right?
As with any cohort, some of them are brilliant, some of them are hard-workers and talented in their subjects of interest and everyone else is just fine, with some people (as in all cohorts), struggling.
Academically, they get the same legal education NLS is known for with great professors who often describe that they enjoy teaching them.
Despite them apparently "crying" about the moot problem as someone has commented below, several of them have better ranks this year than those who have aced complex arbitration problems before and are set to participate in international and national moots. Unless someone is willing to venture into delusional conspiracy theories that even the external judges are in cahoots with the university to gave them fake benefits (which I'm sure some of you do believe lol), they seem to be reasonably competent.
As for internships, they have one batch that is actively trying to land corporate internships for February. This is made challenging by the fact that they started the process a lot later than others because newsflash RCCs, rank lists, recruitment etc are not common lingo everyone is privy to and they likely needed time to understand how to work things, especially with no senior batch. . If you do want to evaluate this however, ask at the beginning of Feb. It is a compulsory internship and so, everyone has to do something. We'll know then how the process has really gone. Maybe everyone here will be proven right and they'll get nothing after all but it's extremely premature to have this discussion at all based on what is largely hearsay and tbh spite and envy.
Some of them are IRS officers, some of them have engineering and economics degrees, some of them are married, some of them have reached the interview stage of the UPSC as early as last year. It would be delusional to think there is a competition at all between them and a group of people in their early twenties just starting out. Their paths are likely going to look entirely different for the most part. Which is a good thing! The more lawyers we have that are not cookie-cutter "top tier NLU" grads, the better.
Having received my own legal education from a university nobody has likely heard of, I have found their cohorts to be curious, humble and empathetic and just about as qualified as any other on campus .
If you do get in, while it is too early for me to say anything about placements , you'll still receive the same NLS education thousands die for yearly and that itself is an undeniable asset. Being able to take classes with a Mrinal, Aparna, Nigam, Kunal Ambasta etc is the stuff dreams are made of imo.
Your comment sounds as if you learnt art of mooting right from childhood. People cope and learn differently, they might have been exasperated in first year but see the growth in second year.
Secondly look at the batch size in respect of % composition. Considering the relatively small size, they have done quite well.
Like I said, let the first batch graduate and give some buffer time. LLB will be dominating the legal services field. A lot of people will prefer doing another degree and then pursuing the three year program rather than spending five year doing law right out of school when they havent signed a contract themselves.
Please don’t misconstrue my words as being derisive of BALLB, all I am saying is this unnecessary slander of LLB is uncalled for without taking into the merits and facts of the matter. Just because a batch is not able to get few internship in so called corporate firms is not a stamp of character of their success or failure of the course.
Yes, a few people are actually intelligent and hard-working but they are in single digits only!
Removing all kinds of reservations, out of 120 seats, if you are a General Non Karnataka male you have 48-49 seats to compete. Now, since reservation is applied on each step of the process, if we take the 1:5 answer booklet checking ratio of Part B, you need to be in 48*5=240.
So in all the students who are taking the exam, you need to be in the top 240 in Part A, to have Part B checked. It's not a guarantee of selection, but getting Part B checked. These are the rules of the game that coaching wallah don't emphasise much (and continue singing the 75 percentile in Part A song on loop) which later leads to heartbreaks.
What I understood from the 2023 Exam was that those General Male Non Karnataka candidates who almost topped Part A and completed the whole 8 passages + completed the whole Part B with good enough answers in all questions and essay were able to get admission. Meaning you need to ace the paper. It is not that impossible to be honest, as I completed part B fully and 6 passages of part A (while leaving 2 passages that cost me), and the marks just add up in the end. But the message is, you need to ace the paper to get in.
Thanks. Bye.
Give this course 5 years tops. It will beat BALLB hands down. The quality of students, the diversity of thought and the richness of discourse is way ahead than what BALLB can envision.
As far as seats remaining empty thing is concerned, I would still go and join the course if they allow me. So, if you have any genuine contacts which might allow please let me know. Seriously. I have no issue getting into a 3y LLB course and spending money. Par saala le toh.
Also, one advice. The part A of NLSAT is the real deal. It is not top 75% percentile. You need to minimum be in the top 75 percentile and then the top 300-500 will have their part B checked. So, actually it is like the top 90 percentile. Read the instructions. Do part A fully. Then go for B. Else, like me, B won't be checked and you can cry in some corner.
All the best!
If you can't afford, join GLC Mumbai or CLC in Delhi at no fee.
Students from LLB/LLM course don't get placed, look at Symbiosis and other colleges that have 5year as well as 3 year courses.
Sudhir came up with this 3year LLB shit cuz he needed money for funding the infra development without compromising on the quality.