These days the US visa form asks for your social media handles and they Google about you anyway. For NLU kids who are genuinely communist and would never dream of going to the US for an LLM and working for White & Case, that's irrelevant. But for those who are merely cosplaying and secretly desire that career path, maybe it's time to give up that pretence.
Just how Modi/Adani slander equates with supporting Hamas is baffling. Immaterial to the conversation. A comparison for comparison's sake.
What is troubling is that students are making sweeping generalisations with respect to the Israel-Gaza conflict and taking sides without being fully informed. The loss of civilian lives on both sides is to be condemned, but it is to be borne in mind that Israel retaliated and did not instigate Hamas to attack them.
Ryna Workman, the president of New York University’s student bar association, has lost a job offer after they sent an email to the school on Tuesday, blaming Israel for the Hamas attack. The 24-year-old, who identifies as non-binary, wrote in the letter that "Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life."
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The screenshot of the email soon went viral on social media, causing an outrage. Following this, New York City law firm Winston & Strawn released a statement saying they heard about their “inflammatory comments regarding Hamas’ recent terrorist attack” and “accordingly, the Firm has rescinded the law student’s offer of employment.”
It’s just that hating a large group of people based solely on their religion is ignorant. It foments divisions in society and drags all of us down to religious war. You’re free - you’re just not morally or practically correct.
This is gross antisemitism. When you criticise Muslims the worst elements of their community will try to physically harm you, Charlie hebdo anyone ? When you criticise Hindus they’ll follow ▮▮▮ ideology , lynch you or worse ▮▮▮ you. Zionism is no one’s cup of tea but to claim that Jews are worse is wrong.
I’d think most of those Rhodes scholars are actually not “left leaning” but moderate. Sudhir certainly is a moderate - he doesn’t like Bhakts but he has equal disdain for lefties who get to esoteric with their work. Menaka fought for gay rights but on other issues she’s not a leftist by any means. Raag Yadava I hear is quite interested in teaching and learning “Hindu philosophy” not something lefties typically graduate to.
I think most academically successful people tend to not view the world as black and white , not follow dogma and make their own mind up and change their mind several times as they grow.
This conversation is not about leftist sympathies, this is about supporting terrorism. If leftists forget than then they are truly lost.
Let arrogant firms like Clifford Chance or White & Case or CAM boycott left-wing students. It is these firms who will be the sufferers, because most of the top students in any law school in the world will be left-leaning. It's just given that critical thinkers and innovative thinkers lean left. Case in point: look at the Rhodes scholars from NLUs. Barring Arghya Sengupta, I can't think of any that is not left-leaning.
So these firms will take second-tier talent, while the toppers will prefer other firms. Butt in fairness, I should say that CAM has recruited many left-wing students, so it shows that Cyril Shroff is smart!
You're going about the discovery the wrong way. GenZ isn't hypocritical because they backtrack when they see consequences. They are easily bullied because they easily stand with statements they never believed in in the first place purely because they are too vulnerable to the virtue signalling herd mentality. This is a serious issue across all universities that though a silent majority is remarkably conservative and even orthodox in many respects, they are coerced to put on the facade of appearing liberal for social credit.
Though I agree with you, there is nothing wrong with anti-semetism. People have every right to light or dislike, love or hate, associate or dissociate as they like. People are autonomous and free.
Lmao, good old outcasting and labelling. Showed your true colours, coward! Just because I'm not in support of the queers I am an invalid and my opinion is illegitimate. Am I the bigot or are you intellectually lazy?
The fact that so many Harvard students are dissociating from the statement after the threat of law firm/hedge fund blacklisting shows the utter hypocrisy of Gen Z wokes. They are just cosplaying as Marxists and citing Chomsky to be trendy. If they were really sincere, they would stand their ground and refuse to work for law firms or hedge funds sympathetic to Israel.
Also, please tell me something guys: How come these Harvard kids aren't saying a word about the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the Pakistani occupation of Baluchistan and the Azerbaijani occupation of Nagorno Karabakh? Because it's not cool to do so? You won't get as many Insta likes or TikTok followers if you champion the cause of Baluchi Muslims or Tibetan Buddhists or Armenian Christians?
there are 1.6 billion Muslims spread over so many countries and the Middle East is immensely wealthy. They, through their sheer numbers are bound to have influence. There are many Muslim majority countries.
In contrast, there are only 16 millions Jews around the world, with 7.3 mil in USA and 7 mil in Israel, the rest insignificantly spread across European countries. Still, with only one Jewish majority country, the Jews have disproportionate power and sway across the most influential economies and governments.
Think about it - we have nearly a billion Hindus, but do you think we hold any sort of real power over institutions and firms and universities in other countries? When something "Hinduphobic" happens, at most a person at the place concerned will raise a hue and cry, the RW twitter bots will endlessly tweet and spread information about it, and then everyone will go back to sleep but that will pretty much be it. We can learn a lot from Jews, honestly.
It doesn't matter which university you are enrolled in. You are clearly not receiving quality education that is supposed to broaden people's perspectives, not turn them into bigots.
Yes, I support Israel and I support gay marriage. In fact, the Israeli law legalises homosexuality whereas Hamas and similar organisations condemn it. So are you a troll trying to undermine the pro-Israel community?
Hang on, so you think it’s fine to abuse Adani/Ambani and claim yourself to be a Marxist until your 3rd year of college, then apply in your 4th year to join CAM? That just shows how hypocritical the woke students are!
The consequences should be that they should be facilitated as law students who actually study and understand what the discipline is about, while you should be summarily rusticated and sent to Whatsapp University from where you get your daily dose of venom.
honestly, this is actually the rest of jews consolidating both wealth and power in the 21st century superpower. Jews are at the helm of very prestigious companies, institutions, firms, think-tanks etc. and exert a lot of influence over press, law firms, banks, Hollywood etc. They've taken every step to ensure they are not caught in a hapless spot like they did back in Hitler's Germany. You can criticize Muslims, Christians, Hindus but you will only really face brutal consequences when you criticize jews. ▮▮▮
Should we have that in India? Ask for names of NLU students who abuse Modi and Adani but later apply to CAM to advise Adani? If NLU students have the right to free speech to say that, surely CAM has the right of information to know the ideologies of students and the freedom of business to choose whom to hire?
4) Names of individual Indian students who signed are coming out. One is a former NewsClick intern and one is a queer. People are commenting whether Hamas tolerates queers.
5) Huge divisions emerging within the left. Barkha Dutt and Rohini Singh condemn Hamas. Both being called Islamophobic by a Pakistani activist.
Similar incident at NYU Law, president of the SBA issued a statement like this. She had an offer from Winston Strawn and it was withdrawn after this came to light.
What is troubling is that students are making sweeping generalisations with respect to the Israel-Gaza conflict and taking sides without being fully informed. The loss of civilian lives on both sides is to be condemned, but it is to be borne in mind that Israel retaliated and did not instigate Hamas to attack them.
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The screenshot of the email soon went viral on social media, causing an outrage. Following this, New York City law firm Winston & Strawn released a statement saying they heard about their “inflammatory comments regarding Hamas’ recent terrorist attack” and “accordingly, the Firm has rescinded the law student’s offer of employment.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/us/nyu-law-harvard-hamas-israel.html
https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/anti-israel-comments-prompt-winston-strawn-rescind-nyu-law-students-job-offer-2023-10-10/
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/nyu-law-student-bar-president-ryna-workman-loses-job-offer-after-blaming-israel-for-hamas-attack-article-104326363
I think most academically successful people tend to not view the world as black and white , not follow dogma and make their own mind up and change their mind several times as they grow.
This conversation is not about leftist sympathies, this is about supporting terrorism. If leftists forget than then they are truly lost.
So these firms will take second-tier talent, while the toppers will prefer other firms. Butt in fairness, I should say that CAM has recruited many left-wing students, so it shows that Cyril Shroff is smart!
Also, please tell me something guys: How come these Harvard kids aren't saying a word about the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the Pakistani occupation of Baluchistan and the Azerbaijani occupation of Nagorno Karabakh? Because it's not cool to do so? You won't get as many Insta likes or TikTok followers if you champion the cause of Baluchi Muslims or Tibetan Buddhists or Armenian Christians?
there are 1.6 billion Muslims spread over so many countries and the Middle East is immensely wealthy. They, through their sheer numbers are bound to have influence. There are many Muslim majority countries.
In contrast, there are only 16 millions Jews around the world, with 7.3 mil in USA and 7 mil in Israel, the rest insignificantly spread across European countries. Still, with only one Jewish majority country, the Jews have disproportionate power and sway across the most influential economies and governments.
Think about it - we have nearly a billion Hindus, but do you think we hold any sort of real power over institutions and firms and universities in other countries? When something "Hinduphobic" happens, at most a person at the place concerned will raise a hue and cry, the RW twitter bots will endlessly tweet and spread information about it, and then everyone will go back to sleep but that will pretty much be it. We can learn a lot from Jews, honestly.
1) Billionaire Bill Ackman threatens that those students who signed while not be recruited by major companies. https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1711788747086233661
2) A big law firm has condemned a former intern and current NYU student for supporting Hamas.
https://twitter.com/WinstonLaw/status/1711850745383866580
3) Harvard Nepali students have retracted their support for the letter after 10 Nepalis were killed.
https://twitter.com/summertwenty20/status/1711849410617921646
4) Names of individual Indian students who signed are coming out. One is a former NewsClick intern and one is a queer. People are commenting whether Hamas tolerates queers.
5) Huge divisions emerging within the left. Barkha Dutt and Rohini Singh condemn Hamas. Both being called Islamophobic by a Pakistani activist.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/us/harvard-israel-gaza-hamas-reaction.html
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/harvard-student-bodies-face-backlash-over-statement-blaming-israel-for-war-2446935-2023-10-10
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/31-harvard-student-groups-hold-israel-entirely-responsible-for-hamas-attack/articleshow/104291186.cms?from=mdr
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harvard-law-student-linked-statement-blaming-israel-denounces-contents-says-she-didnt-read-it