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1. The fee (4.13 lacs) is only for the academic year 2024-25. It will increase every year after that.
2. Student loans are a bad idea at all times.
3. Don't rely on scholarships.
4. Expect other NLUs to also raise the fees as well.
5. The fee at NUJS is not less either (it is 4 lacs per year for its BSc-LLB program).
6. All NLUs are state institutions struggling for funding, hence the high fee is needed to survive.
1. Not really, I am from the batch of 2027 and its still 3LPA for us. It will not increase for existing batches. It increases for incoming batches and the same fees continues for 5years.
2. Why? Look at it as an investment. After 5 years, even if you get a mid-tier job, you can easily pay the loan back in 5-6 years. After that, you can earn for the remainer of your life.
I agree with the rest of the points!
The loan determines your career choice. You can't do litigation or pursue higher studies or do grassroot level work or even most kind of policy work, especially if you would become a primary bread earner in the family after graduation.
In a country struggling with income disparity and challenging social mobility - making education more expensive will only land you mediocre minds since it limits access to a privileged few.
Cheers.
History doesn’t start and end with your generation- there was stuff that happened before you as well. At one point nls had fees of a few thousand a year , and over time it increased to a lakh a year then two lakhs a year- at the time all these same arguments were made - but nothing much changed in fact nls has become more diverse over the years than less.
Also there is Aditya Birla scholarship
(I may not even get gnlu cause clat is unpredictable and my above comment may reek of arrogance but I just can’t afford nlsiu)
NLS is a government run university, the ROI for its students has been fairly good. If the worst thing you might have to do after graduating is work in a law firm for a year to pay off a loan- thats not actually unreasonable. You dont have to stick with corp law after that. Add to that there are scholarships and loan interest rates are quite low for educational loans. Its just not comparable.
[Fact check: NLS pays 7th CPC salaries, just like all other NLUs]
All I can say is a friend was hired to be an assistant professor recently and they make a tidy 1.15 in hand every month.
The advertisements tell you 7th pay commission scale, but the government only gives you a range . Most nlus will pay you the bottom most amount of money in that range- nls will pay you near the top of that range.
It’s just untrue what you’re assuming.
JGLS however can let you become a full professor without a phd and pay you much more- nls will insist you do your phd and you meet UGC criteria. Thats the only reason you will see the difference.
Pay commission is about the minimum you have to pay- not the maximum you can.
I wonder why you think your guesswork is more true than the money in my bank account.
First of all, you have got some serious comprehension issues. You keep harping on the point that according to me, Assistant Professors cannot get paid as much as 1.2 L per month, when I said nothing of the sort. I can name 50 APs across the NLUs who are being paid that or more. AP is not a homogeneous category, genius! You get paid more based on your academic work experience. The 80-85K (depending on city-based HRA) is for FRESHER APs without any academic experience whatsoever, or someone who joins a new fresher post without pay protection from an earlier post. Both the people whom you mentioned were not freshers, and if you could not figure that out, then I feel sorry for the clients who would in future have the misfortune to rely upon you.
Secondly, no public law university can pay out of turn to a full-time teacher even if they want to. That's a financial irregularity that their FC would not sanction, and other faculty who have reached their pay scale via the UGC CAS promotion route would protest and successfully challenge the decision before any court of law. The only way to get a relatively junior faculty a higher pay scale is to absorb them in an open-contest higher position. By promotion, an Assistant Professor can make Associate only after 13 years (12 in case of an early PhD), which does not depend on whether university has such a position vacant. By open selection, they can make Associate only after 8 years or Professor after 10 years, provided the university has a vacancy (that too, they will have to satisfy the eligibility requirements of such posts). NLS is not your or Sudhir's ancestral property that these rules can be broken with impunity, especially when the money actually comes from the students and the university also accepts state government funds and hence amenable to audit. Jindal on the other hand can pay whomever whatever they want, because they are private, don't accept government funds and have got IOE status. They can even pay different salaries to two faculty with exactly identical designation without an Article 14 writ being filed against them. NLS cannot do that either.
You should improve your knowledge instead of relying on hearsay and then come opining on matters like this. You seem to be a student who doesn't really have a clue, so it's useless engaging with you any further. By the way, AT was not being paid as much by NLS as by Jindal. He was getting more than what an AP in his position should have been paid, but that was because he was charged with additional admin responsibilities at NLS over and above his duties as AP. Clearly, you don't know that either. I won't get into a debate about the ethical issues involved there, since if neither NLS nor Jindal had any problem with the arrangement, I don't see what concern it is of anybody else.
I have seen these people receive salary money in their accounts. I have had drinks with them because I am their colleague- and they have told me what work they did and how much they got paid, they have discussed their pay with me when they got hired. Ad hoc folks hired this academic year get 1.15. I have literally no intention arguing with a student trying to prove that I actually teach in this place- because I do. AT did not have teaching or research experience before he joined there. He was fresh out of the LLM. And given he was part time at best- he really did get overpaid. Which- I'm fine with. Neither of the none of the people I'm talking about got absorbed in an open contest and none of them were qualified to become associate professors. You just dont know anything. I made a very simple claim at the beginning of all this- that NLS pays comparable salaries to jgls, and that it pays more than other NLUs, you have now admitted that that is possible. You started out claiming it was impossible. thats literally the point. If the same exact guy is getting the same salary at NLS and JGLS- thats the whole argument I'm making. I didn't say shit about base pay, ta, ra, HRA none of that. I said- in hand they get the same thing. Please go ask your professors if thats not true. I'm absolutely done with this nonsensical conversation.
I'm not naming people specifically because youll be able to figure out exactly who I am based on who my friends are- If youre on campus- youve seen us hanging out. That is literally the only reason. If you were even on campus youd know who all I'm talking about just from the time I said they joined and the experience I said they have. I have no wish to doxx myself on the internet because youre confused about how rules are implemented and what a university can do to hire people. Ive known colleagues who came from nalsar to nls and nalsar to jgls- those two guys get paid about the same both of them. and both of them got a pay bump leaving nalsar. go ask them dude.
2. But that will take away your precious AILET scam money, so you will never do that anyway.
3. UT Infection sounds about right.
To be fair NLU, and amongst them as well, the NLS tag would be worth much more in future. However, the concerns are very valid for the poor meritorious chaps who wish to get out of the socio-economic traps.
I remember receiving forwarded messages every now and then as to how some talented individual was unable to make the ends meet and wished to have a crowdsourced fund for paying up the fee to college.
And trust me choosing these universities won’t make any difference to them
Nalsar fee:- 2.41 lakhs (gives you better foreign placements/TCs than NLS which is charging 4.15)
Nujs fee:- 2.48 lakhs (gives you better domestic placements than NLS which is charging 4.15)
NLU Delhi:- 3.02 lakhs (gives you better foreign llm plus upsc exposure than nlsiu).
Even nlu Jodhpur seems cheaper than nlsiu considering Aditya Birla is also applicable in nlu j.
So this made nlsiu far more inaccessible. The aspirant will save the 1.15 lakh every year to do a well rounded masters later on.
NLSIU need to reconsider its decision.