Litigation: Not many A-list counsels (including nepo kids). Very few elevations to judgeship (including nepo kids).
Law firms: Barring Trilegal, no NLU-founded firm is in the big league. You have a few firms in specialist areas like Saikrishna, but compare with what IIT-founded startups are doing in tech.
In-house counsels: A few big achievers, but DU/GLC grads still dominate.
Academia: This is one area where NLU grads are doing well, with many joining top law schools abroad. You don't see this much with non-NLU grads (hardly any teach abroad). But look at those in India: are they really making a big impact? Look at even Sudhir: he has a doctorate from Oxford but doesn't seem to have published in a single A-list journal and hasn't done any pathbreaking research.
Human rights and activism: Menaka Guruswamy and Arundhati Katju made it to the Time 100, Shamnad Basheer founded IDIA, Lawrence Liang founded ALF. Some great successes there. But overall have NLU grads really done as well as they should have? Even in Menaka and Katju's case, are they really among the top human rights lawyers in India?
Politics: A big joke. Hardly any position of consequences been given to an NLU alum.
Every institution that you're comparing NLUs with are decades older than those. So no meaningful comparison can be made. If you need to compare, then compare with the DU/GLC grads from 1990 onward with others like NLSIU.
Because they DOMINATE the top tier law firms in India. You cannot compare engineering startups which are product based with law firm which is client-service based industry. In the former you just have to make a great product whereas services offered by law firms are same, it's more or less about poaching the client. Plus software companies never tend to make their employees partner in the business, whereas you are made partner in the law firm you join at the lowest level. Hence, major hunger to start something of their own vanishes
because of the simple fact that most of the NLU grads are corporate lawyers (an important criteria you failed to mention just mentioned the founders of law firms not the no. of partners). If you think being a good corporate attorney is not doing justice to the profession or is not an important job, then you are highly mistaken. If a tier 1 law firm partner is not important then why is the market paying him 70LPA? ask yourselves. Look at any of the top law firms and see how many fee earners are NLU graduates, LOOK AT THE RATIOS.
Another point being that most of the A-list lawyers are 50+ year olds. how many NLU graduates do you think were graduated between before 2003? NLSIU was the only NLU producing graduates before 2003. So, that is a dumb point. Also, there are several good litigators from NLUs who are doing well in HCs and SC, but yes, they are not 45-50 year old senior advocates.
Just like most of the IITians are engineers only, they all are not startup entrepreneurs. Most NLU graduates are not politicians/academicians/activists. Also, there are at least 20 times more IIT graduates as compared to NLU graduates in india till date. So cant compare the numbers. you can definitely compare the ratios.
Please stop being sour at NLUs (just because you could not clear CLAT).
This is such BS. Idk what your problem is- but you’ve moved goal posts too paint a picture of NLU grads that suits your narrative at every stage. Get over yourself.
Law firms: Barring Trilegal, no NLU-founded firm is in the big league. You have a few firms in specialist areas like Saikrishna, but compare with what IIT-founded startups are doing in tech.
In-house counsels: A few big achievers, but DU/GLC grads still dominate.
Academia: This is one area where NLU grads are doing well, with many joining top law schools abroad. You don't see this much with non-NLU grads (hardly any teach abroad). But look at those in India: are they really making a big impact? Look at even Sudhir: he has a doctorate from Oxford but doesn't seem to have published in a single A-list journal and hasn't done any pathbreaking research.
Human rights and activism: Menaka Guruswamy and Arundhati Katju made it to the Time 100, Shamnad Basheer founded IDIA, Lawrence Liang founded ALF. Some great successes there. But overall have NLU grads really done as well as they should have? Even in Menaka and Katju's case, are they really among the top human rights lawyers in India?
Politics: A big joke. Hardly any position of consequences been given to an NLU alum.
So why have NLUs not been so succesful?
In the Supreme Court, yes. But barring Sibal’s sons, which new senior counsel has become a list from any law school?
Politics and Judgeship, maybe we’ll get there in time.
Every corp firm is dominated by NLU grads, yes they didn’t start the firms, because the older lalas don’t let anyone come in.
If you think being a good corporate attorney is not doing justice to the profession or is not an important job, then you are highly mistaken. If a tier 1 law firm partner is not important then why is the market paying him 70LPA? ask yourselves. Look at any of the top law firms and see how many fee earners are NLU graduates, LOOK AT THE RATIOS.
Another point being that most of the A-list lawyers are 50+ year olds. how many NLU graduates do you think were graduated between before 2003? NLSIU was the only NLU producing graduates before 2003. So, that is a dumb point. Also, there are several good litigators from NLUs who are doing well in HCs and SC, but yes, they are not 45-50 year old senior advocates.
Just like most of the IITians are engineers only, they all are not startup entrepreneurs. Most NLU graduates are not politicians/academicians/activists.
Also, there are at least 20 times more IIT graduates as compared to NLU graduates in india till date. So cant compare the numbers. you can definitely compare the ratios.
Please stop being sour at NLUs (just because you could not clear CLAT).