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JSA - Cautionary Tale
The team’s senior associates were so busy and caught up that I would feel bad to ask them for help or assistance.
JSA is not what I was promised it would be. 8% bill share included; I did not make how much I was promised I would be able to make. My peers in another team made much more than I did because they had retainer clients.
I was humiliated and asked to apologize to my partner over an email when I made mistakes. I was shouted at for asking a leave. I was admonished by work drying up. I asked for a break, and because I did, my team stopped giving me work. I wrote emails to many people asking them for work, asking them for guidance, asking them for training. I received none of it and was asked to “read the knowledge management portal” and “the newspaper”.
I quit the job because there was no growth. I was working on things I did not understand the value of, and the senior associates had all the freedom to decide how much work I should get and how much I should not. My partner played favorites.
When I left, I did not get any bill share. I was paid my retainer after months. I was told, when I was leaving, that I will be “laughed at” in the market because I did not have “teamwork” and my “lack of loyalty” to my partner means I will be finished. I was told I will have no career.
JSA – you are not a law firm. You are a system of oppression, and your lack of decency will come exposed. Underpaid, overworked. Anyone leaving your organization is doing themselves a favor.
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The Delhi disputes team and their senior-most partner are an unprofessional bunch barring a few people and are a complete disgrace to work with. Chewing supari/paan and going for evening walks and abusing juniors is his (AG's) daily entertainment. I can speak from my experience at the delhi disputes team and though it was 4 years back, much hasn't changed from what I hear nowadays.
even if you are an A0,no one will call/approach you specifically.
they dont have time to,be happy you got job in law firm and was given work to do.
it becomes your role and responsibility to always follow up after completing every work.
coming to your statement,where you mentioned you were not given guidance.
dude,i assume you have interned in the same team,in same firm or different firm,
they have recruited you as an associate.
they dont have time for spoon feeding.
in competitive world,stop complaining and start questioning and start behaving how they expect you to be.
cuz u are not yet recognised in the firm.
if u want to sustain,YOU HAVE TO GO AND ASK/TAKE INITIATIVES.
You cannot create a hostile, toxic, and out right disrespectful environment and expect a person to be motivated to work. You cannot call people into your room and tell them that they are "not made for law" having never worked with them enough or taking the time out to understand why they are unable to understand you.
If everything cannot be spoon feeding, everything cannot be self-learning either.
You are not alone.
There are thousands of people who are fighting in the competition to get into your place.
You have come to work. Not they.
You have to adjust. They will not.
You cannot expect to be treated as a school kid.
If work is not submitted before the deadline or on the day of deadline, seniors are responsible the clients. NOT YOU.
That's the reason they show anger on associates.
Few talk rudely, few just ignore and stop giving work from next time, few just treat you as a robot and give copy pasting work.
2 days deadline was given to you. i.e 48 hours
If you don't know what to draft, prepare oultine at least or google the work, try to do at least what you can.
During lunch time Or before going home on that day , present what you have done and then take feedback and make it perfect.
SA/PA are directly answerable to clients.
It becomes obligation of the Junior associate to learn, adapt and implement.
You just cant keep on complaining every minute issue.
They just don't care. Cuz that's how the profession works.
This is sad to read. I don't know why this is the culture in law firms these days. If you do not want someone, tell them so and help them find another place. JSA is suffering because it has no systems. No one signs a contract when they join, but are expected to live by the whims and fancies of their teams. So many people I know have serious health issues because of law firms. Even around the time I was leaving, I saw people who had to resign because their teams just stopped giving them work (even when there was so much work) and instead told them to write articles.
Sad, but this has been my (painful) experience with JSA and other law firms.
The politics is toxic. I was also treated the same, before I left on a pretext of taking a small career break. The politics is toxic. A senior and an older EP in Gurgaon - who considers himself more Japanese than an Indian - tried calling me back. I thanked him for his offer, and politely told him that I don't want to pursue corporate law. Looking back..JSA, maybe, you are the reason that I may have lost interest in the corporate law. Zilch learning. Nobody really bothers.
Wish I had joined a better team and a better firm, to start with. Also, some younger EPs have totally lost it. A few bucks have made them even shallower.
I am talking here about Gurgaon office.
At every level people are expected to suck up to the equity partners. EP impression >> client satisfaction.
2. Bill share is a "variable" component that is not guaranteed to anyone. You are told this when you join, so if you do not understand how "variable" works, then it will be a problem for you.
3. JSA does not pay the same as other T1s. Whatever reward you get comes after several years here. But your life will not be completely destroyed by work.
4. JSA doesn't have the same business model as other firms so there is no basis for comparison. It also has a different training model than others. But you need to have some basic skills to do well here and if you do not meet that standard, no amount of training can help you.
5. OP has put all the blame on the system. I assume he or she has taken the time to reflect on why, by their own statement, other associates were in "war rooms" with their SAs and PAs while he or she was not.
There are two sides to this, and because LegallyIndia is crowded with the As, you may not get the whole picture of the SAs, PAs and others who have no time.
Summary: Guys wake up and take the train to Trilegal Gurgaon. They're hiring at a much better pay and it's no more toxic than JSA is anyway.
I recently left JSA Gurgaon but even my colleagues wouldn't know because EPs control whether exit emails are circulated are not. A trend started by [...]. Just one of the many many awful toxic traits of JSA. Only on Legally India are there people claiming JSA is a good place to work at.
No mentorship, terrible pay and bill share is a scam. JSA has the same pay bands as it did in 2017. Let alone inflation, they haven't even kept up with tier 2 firms!! Bill share is only beneficial to partners who will slash your hours on whim and fancy. Forget mentorship. No matter which team you join, you will have a 1:5 ratio of associates to SA-PA-RP. The office is a dingy old building in Gurgaon, smells awful. While other firms are doing the biggest deals in the history of Indian M&A, JSA is now a diligence factory. No PPOs means no talented recruitments, only leftover students who couldn't get placed anywhere. The list of issues is so long.
Current JSA Gurgaon attorneys, if you have a different view please share. I would love to hear the other side.
P.S. [...] if you are reading this through a screenshot someone sent you, please fix the issues at JSA and your team first instead of going after twenty something year olds ranting on Legally India :)
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