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lmao bro tarnishing is being done by whoever wrote that horribly unfunny, crass message to juniors. NLUJ should be embarrassed if this is the output of their fancy lot.
I think the third one was made to identify the first years and it was easy to talk to them. It is not a compulsary thing, if you are a first year and want to interact with seniors it was easier this way. Again not compulsary to not wear printed shirts, you can do whatever the shit you want
Also, I got all of the things you mentioned, without getting ragged by any of the seniors. Instead, those who ragged me were far more incompetent than I was in terms of knowledge and skills.
And those who treated me as equal ended up helping me more.
Also, most of the students are smart enough to figure things out themselves, like I did for most of the things.
And I have been in the college since last 2018, and I haven't found anyone ostracised at all. even those who complained of the seniors, were not ostracised.
Its just another made up lie by some insecure seniors who think that they can coerce the juniors into submitting to their ego trips.
Trust me, no one can ostracise you if your case is genuine and you report to the college authorities.
But I agree with the point that if some senior has actually done any kind of serious ragging which harmed the student mentally or physically, then yes, the student should definitely report that to the college authorities.
but then, has it ever happened? no. Stop trying your best to tarnish the reputation of NLUJ just because you couldn't get into it.
Thank you for asking.
Nothing was wrong as long as it was calling out a specific message by a specific senior or group of seniors.
It went wrong when some jealous people or the clat failures wrongly started gross generalisation of NLUJ culture and environment. other than that if you say that a bunch of seniors are arsewholes, I'd definitely agree. But when they start attacking the whole university over such random things, I don't have anything but pity for them.
I forgot to mentions NLUD, it's good as well.
Itna hi friendly banna hai, toh bhai be civilised and take juniors out for a treat and have a normal discussion. You are saying as if ragging is the 'natural order' of ice-breaking; no, it is not; it never had to be this way. It is this way because of some perverse perception of power over juniors. Why should they comply? Who are you to discipline them to make them docile?
If you only provide help to those who silently accepted being the victim of power trips, that is not called learning: that is called selling your dignity for career progression. That is also not altruism on the senior's part then: that is a mere transaction, and has nothing noble or obligatory about it.
There is a reason ragging is a criminal offence.
Before anyone jumps in: no, I did not take part in ragging as a junior or as a senior, and I did very well in life, I dare say.
Those who are trying to tarnish the reputation of the University, you cannot, no one can, not especially the jealous and clat failures, over some random WhatsApp message allegedly sent by a turd senior with than ego tip and is not endorsed by even 5% of the total senior batches.
If you know even one student of NLUJ, you'll understand what the culture is and why more top rankers in CLAT choose NLUJ over any other turd college (not talking about NALSAR, NLS, NUJS here).
I can assure you that at NLUJ, ragging is friendly without any physical harassment. frankly its fun and gave me some of the most cherished memories of the place and seniors. I also feel that once you have gone through this "ragging" period, life outside becomes quite comfortable since you already dealt with the worst.
If any juniors of NLUJ are reading this, please enjoy your ragging period, have fun with the seniors who do your "positive interactions". In case you feel threatened or are physically harassed, you can approach a higher senior (for instance if a 3rd year has been abusing you during ragging, go and talk to to a 4th or 5th year). In case nothing happens, then seek remedy from the admin.
Trust me you'll look back after years and laugh your ass off while sharing those ragging stories :)
So kindly settle such matters internally without posting on public forums.
Just because you had to endure it doesn't mean new people need to endure it too. Break the cycle.
This is some archaic bullshit.
The juniors I'm most friendly with were people I goofed around with during their first year.
When my batch was getting ragged on our first night about a decade and a half ago, the seniors were trying to scare us and I remember finding it all quite funny and it was all cool - nobody did anything to me.
If anyone actually does something; i.e, manhandles you or make you do mean derogatory stuff (signing cheap songs doesn't count), then that constitutes ragging. This is just harmless fun. Learn to relax, life will be very hard without it.
Report them to the NCB when you see them with weed. Stand up for yourself. Stand up and fight.
But why?
Juniors don't understand that this will end up with them becoming friends with seniors who will help at every stage. I am still friends with seniors who ragged (which was limited to intro and addressing them as senior) and I am still friends with many juniors whom I ragged.
Before taking any further steps, you should reach out to a well intentioned senior about this. University action is disproportionate more often than not and so, unless you (hopefully not) have a bad experience yourself, don't consider it. Also, it may be best if you be the judge of whether you are uncomfortable or not on actual interactions and not WhatsApp forwards. I hope you have a good experience at your university.
Have fun.
Baakiyo ko interact krna h seniors k sath... tu sabka loss krwa rhaa h ye sbb krke
Also, no one is going to touch you and you always have the option to say no if you don't like.
Note: I am in my 5th year and still I knew only those seniors who positively interacted with me. They gave me notes, projects and the much needed guidance throughout. Yes, some may be shitty as well but exceptions are everywhere, rightโ๏ธโ๏ธ.
Only a few lowlifes enforce such rules, please dont generalise.
No one's gonna ostracize you or anyone. No one can ostracize anyone in the college.
Also, trust me, you don't need any help from any seniors to do anything in the college.
I'm doing fairly well, and never needed any help from any of the people who i gave ragging to.
I am friends with the other people who didn't take positive interaction, and turned out ot be the only successful people in their batch.
This is not ragging as long as it is not enforced and meant as a joke. These rules are supposed to be taken in light humor. You dont have to follow these strictly if you dont want. It's just for fun. If someone is making you follow these or shouts at you for not following the rules, please feel free to tell them to puck off.
Those who enforce such rules on juniors forcibly, are lowlifes and unsuccessful people who do not have any respect or value in their peer group.
Trust me no one can make or break your future. Trust me, you dont need any shitty senior's help to be successful in your Law School. Even if you need help, no one who is smart enough is gonna say no to you just because you didn't follow some non-sensical rules.
You can follow them if you like to have some fun with seniors but dont follow these rules if you dont want.
As per my personal experience, those who used to enforce these ridiculous rules on us, turned out to be the lowest of the lows. They are not successful or happy in their lives. They do not have good upbringing and are failing miserably. No exceptions.
And those who were chill with these rules, didn't enforce them, turned out to be the respectable ones in their batch and are resourceful and smart.
However, just make sure you are polite with your seniors. And ask nicely if you need anything which is the bare minimum human decency. Thats all you need.
I prefer my juniors to call me by my Name or bhaiyya.
Also please stop BSing. I have heard plenty of ragging stories coming from your beloved NLSIU, NALSAR and NLUD (in fact seen it first hand at NLUD).
These would end right after freshers so you guys need not worry. Most of the seniors won't even mind if you don't follow these protocols except a few.
But yeah, complaining won't help. Every year one or the other person complains about it and the witch hunt to find that person starts. If you're not comfortable, tell the seniors you are not comfortable and they will let you go. Nobody would force you to do anything. But if you complain, or protest, Seniors will always get a way around it or at max, will get suspended for 1 week. But the way everyone would be searching for the person who made this post/complained can just make things worse. And trust me, it's not very hard to find out.
Good luck guys. Welcome to NLUJ. You're gonna have a lot of fun. Just wait for the freshers.
In the old days Kian would have done a story on it. Sadly Kian is gone and B&B/LiveLaw will never cover anything against the admin. But you could try LiveWire from the Wire, YouthKiAwaaz, Quint, OpIndia, Janta Ka Reporter, LawBeat and other youth-oriented sites. One of them will surely cover it.
"The following are the protocols that you have to follow for quite sometime.
Golden Rule - Seniors are Always Right.
1) Always Greet your Seniors. Begin and End every Statement with 'SIR'. Every Single Sentence.
Example : SIR my name is XYZ SIR
2) Don't smile in front of seniors.NO MATTER WHAT
If you do , immediately wipe the smile and shove it up your ass and scream 'Aaah' ( It's called the Smile Wipe.)
3) Wear only Plain T Shirts , and Full Pants.
4) Don't walk on Lawns or take Short Cuts. Always use the road to go anywhere.
5) Don't sit in the gazebo. Those sitting area in the campus.
6) Don't visit Tafri etc. And any other place where you can get booze or cigarettes ( Including the city ) Except if the seniors ask you to.
7) This is the hierarchy of respect to be given to people:
1) 5th years
2) 4th years
3) 3rd years
4) 2nd years
5) Workers and non Teaching staff
6) Grass
7) 50 piles of shit
8) Dogs
9) 1st Years
10) PG students
11) Chief Warden.
( Applies to girls also )
Protocols for all those who didn't know.
The protocols are not followed in academic block,
Library."
This constitues as ragging right, Should i report it to the University administration??