Top 5 are same as last year's ranking. Not surprised, most of predicted that only except some NLUJ supporters.

not the same. no nluj

What do the top 15 look like once we discount research and consultancy scores, perception etc and take into account only the placement records for the undergrad courses? How do the top NLUs vs mid tier and the other private players pan out with the placements as the only metric? (Of the top 30 they've made public)

Facts contested, sure. But why trollish? Someone asked a question, another person responded, making clear that it is their personal opinion and others may differ. If the question is allowed, why on earth would the answer be marked trollish? Is this new moderator high?

Hahahahaha guess who’s not in QS? Guess who isn’t an IoE? Guess which university records the highest zero day for the 2022 batch. The zero day placements surpassed a couple of your tier 1 universities let alone the final statement. You can carry out your propaganda on LI comments section by commenting on behalf of JGLS students and then trolling yourself but this only speaks about the volumes of obsession you have with an institution, that doesn’t compete in the same league as you, let alone caring about your existence. You very well know what you’d give to be a student of that institution with all this obsession that you carry on your shoulders.

You left out the NLU of the most populous state in India. Is it deliberate? Will its inclusion impact the forthcoming elections?

Christ and AIL at 6, and KIIT with RGNUL? Duh

Why do you care bro. Some kiddo making some list and gettin fun

No one has asked for your list phokat ka. Christ has better placements than NLUJAA, KIIT or a NIRMA. Still seems to vanish.

Non sense. Like why do you waste your time and energy making out all these lists?

Why aren't you focusing on yourself instead of adding the 201st comment?

IIT KGP and piggybacks.

Who's the fat face on the left?

Bruh, NLUJ at 8th

Look at yourself first for upvoting wrong facts, kiddo.

False. Check your facts before you spew them out.

NLUD has about as many Rhodes scholars as NUJS and NALSAR did at the same age (with much lesser competition at that time).

As for moots, NLUD has won 5-6 big international moots (2 Man Lachs, 1 ICC, 1 Ox Price and 1 Ox IPR, as well as Henry Dunant Worlds). NALSAR only has 2 notable wins (1 Vis Vienna, 1 Ox Price) and NUJS has about 4-5 (2 Vis Vienna and 2 Vis HK). So, NLUD is only behind NLS on this metric despite being 20 years younger.

You call that goalpost shifting, troll? You're the one shifting goalposts by now claiming that one moot is that much better than another. In absolute number of moot wins (both domestic and foreign), NLUD is better than NALSAR. NALSAR is tied with Jindal with just 2 wins. NLUD also has better debating and ADR achievements, FYI. Go check if you are that keen, I don't have the time to list them all out. But I'll bet your butt-hurt ego will deny all that, including the superior NIRF rank for 4 years in a row, and continue to claim that NALSAR is much better.

Never did I claim that NALSAR was better than NLUD. The only person trolling here is you. Yes, it is goalpost shifting when you claim better Rhodes performance and then say only insofar as formative years go. And I am not making any person claim that one moot is better than another. The entire moot fraternity is aware of facts. The fact remains that you are not satisfied only with the areas NLUD has actually delivered better performance like research or UPSC, instead you are trying to bulldoze the argument by claiming its false superiority in areas where it doesn't have such preference. Such as Rhodes, moots and placement (the last one it doesn't have better performance than even NLUJ).

You are wasting my time arguing like this. You and your NLS/NALSAR/NUJS buddies can downvote NLUD all you want but it doesn't change any facts. I have been following moots since my time at law school and if you want to argue that NALSAR has better performances at say Jessup or Vis compared to NLUD, I won't sit here denying that. But the fact is that in terms of winning moots, (Ox IPR and Henry Dunant aren't some cheap international moots that anyone can easily win, NLS and Nalsar teams take part in them every year) NLUD is ahead of NALSAR.

Facts are pretty much accurate. Bias and false sense of pride are making you ignore those.

A guy puts out a random statment without any numbers and you support it whereas someone provides actual numbers and you say that the facts are wrong? Looks like you're the one who is too caught up in bias and subjectivity.

NLUD has 2 so far. Go and check your facts please.

LOL. You might still have sour grapes for not getting through AILET but you should realise that most of us who cleared AILET have pretty good CLAT ranks and have ditched your precious CLAT colleges for NLUD.

Right! If NLU Jodhpur substitutes NUJS next year, these rankings will once again be skewed and incorrect. Law school logic. The top three mafias must expect that they will be surpassed at some point in the future.

You are just being dumb. NIRF is the most shitty Ranking ever, according to them Savitra Tech college and IIT K law are also colleges.

You are partially right in asking one question. What's the point of these rankings? The answer is, nary a thing, of course! Regardless of whether your institution comes first or hundredth.

Yo R, could you investigate into this? Is this a ranking meant for public institutions solely? This is a legit question. These are some of the best universities in India. You could feature this observation as well.

One more question, do they value scientific research over liberal arts, legal research? If that’s not the case, Ashoka university should be above all other universities in terms of research output.

KIIT already participates in it I think?

Well applying your Rule of natural justice:- Nemo judex in causa sua, a dictum, NIRF rankings must not be adjudged by the state (central govt.) because it cannot judge and rank universities established, held and managed by itself against privately held universities.

The fact that is to be noted before Dharmendra pradhan was Edu Min, jindal was already in that NIRF list.

In QS

Not in Ans.

This thread deserves NIRF ranking

This comment should be featured. R, are you listening?

It is a genuine question.

Do they not take part in the ranking? Are they too chicken shit to be ranked lower than Kalinga? :)

You didn't answer the question, so I will take that as a yes.

Nujs was, is and will always be above nluj kid.

*Confirmed

Put NLUJ in place of GNLU and I’d agree

NLSIU being undisputed number 1 for years to come.

lmao please your crumbling infrastructure and new VC cannot sustain that long. altho I dont agree with JGLS being third (what a joke lmao). NLSIU is not gonna be number 1 for long. It won't be long until NLUD/NALSAR beats NLSIU as number 1.

Viman Nagar, Pune.

In Pune, Hyderabad and Noida

Middle of Salt Lake City - Middle of Nowhere - I think that makes up for the in house infrastructure difference.

As for governmental interference, it also gets countered by the fact that NUJS' has had a great student body (with the exception of the current SJA) that has actively acted against VCs and Registrar who have been complete government stooges.

Which Law School are you talking about? Because there are a lot of them around. If you’re talking about the one that topped the rankings, then no I don’t think jindal global Law School being a private uni is eligible for INI.

Topped which ranking in which other universities actually participate again?

As if politicians care for NLUs

Isn't it obvious? They are all either very ignorant of reality or very insecure of NLUD's rise and will say anything to convince themselves that they are just as good/better. It's the same reason why they bash JGLS for doing better than NLS in the QS.

Only someone really pathetic will call there law school peers "idiots". People from NLS and NALSAR are so much more gracious even when criticising NLD D. Actually they don't criticize NLU D they criticise NIRF rankings. But you guys are just demeaning. Just goes to show about immaturity of you and other NLU D fanboys/girls here.

Not really. None of these "graduates" were very gracious when it came to criticising NLUD. Go see some of the older threads on NLUD's achievements.
Luckily, no one at NLUD really cares what they think and are continuing to cement their place as one of the best in the country. It's not like NLUD needs permission from NLS or NALSAR grads to do well for itself although the latter would like to believe that.
Also, don't forget that NLS grads did go and argue against their "great friends" from NALSAR and NUJS that only NLS didn't deserve to have any domicle quota. Before Sudhir screwed them over.

How degraceful u appear while talking abt graciousness of nls and nalsar and commenting about immaturity of nlud .such a big division in your own mind

GNLU and NLUJ over NUJS anyday. I value good infrastructure in the most important 5 years of my life when placements are more or less the same

So go there, who is stopping you? This is a thread about NIRF and not your personal CLAT preferences.

Sports Authority of India and Salt Lake Stadium (

This take comes with a lot of privilege. Also maybe you are that backbencher kid who doesn't know shit. NUJS's placements are fat better than GNLU and NLUJ. At times it is even better than the designated top three. Get your facts right before you comment asshole.

NLUJ: 8th
RMLNLU: 15th
NLIU: 14th

Does that make you an EA player? Because you lack complete relevance in either?

Cumulatively the new faculty have got less than ten SCOPUS publications between the 8 of them. So their excellence won't be easily captured by NIRF. Now you can see why the rankings are faulty.

You guys get paid kya?

Aur nahin toh kya? Naveen Chachu ka diya huwa 2000 crores kahaan jata hai nahin toh?

lmao troll, get a life. Are you Naveen Jindal in disguise XD

Saveetha! Saveetha! Saveetha!

Mr. Ranking accurate wale cha cha..

High hogaye ho shyad

Tu pakka NLUD se hai

Looks like bjps it cell has come out

Even after making a laughing stock of themselves for NLAT and then later by opening a CLAT coaching programme.

Featured comment!!

Where do they even get the data for this lol

Kalinga institute is 10! :/

Yes, faculty should stop teaching and only focus on publishing. Plenty of other places are doing that. Students should not have to attend classes and they can instead focus on getting jobs. Everybody will be happy that way.

Are you saying that the faculty have got no role to play in the fact that the students end up securing good jobs? Then why aren't the students of other universities getting similar placement records? What rubbish! It is true that the faculty should focus on good publications, but students should actually start demanding better faculty student ratio, less administrative workload on faculty, and get faculty with good publication record instead of adhering to archaic UGC rules (students had demanded earlier that faculty should only be taken on the basis of such rules regardless of their industry experience) and state-fangled reservation policies.

While the solution pointed out here may not be the most sound (while SCOPUS is great for science publications, it should not be used as the holy grail for legal faculty) - it is true that NUJS' rankings could be far better if the faculty put in a bit more effort for god's sake!

Very true. It is equally true that the handful of good faculty who are still there or have left recently are also really disappointed with the efforts put in by the students lately.

Yeh beech mei Jindal Law Review kaha se aagaya?

Helicopter se.

I think that’s one of the only few domestic law journals enlisted in SCOPUS

the sja should do a lot of things, but based on their past performance now the gb doesn't even expect anything from them. for now even if they hold a gb meeting that would be beyond expectations

Lol, your opinion and prediction matter as much as your relevance. Which is to say nothing at all, anon troll!

This is a very sensible ranking to me. I don't know why LI blurred it. It's very realistic.

People are not going to like it because nobody wants to be called tier 2 or tier 3 but this seems fairly reasonable. Also moderator, are you sure this is trollish? I can not spot anything outright unbelievable. Every observation seems more or less reasonable. Moroever its their personal opinion

What seems to be this 'reason' that makes a random ranking to be reasonable, exactly? I think you should exercise your reasoning faculties more.

Tu noojie hai na?

What's the rank of MNLU?

For literature, comp lit and engineering, I'll choose JU any day over other Indian universities (other than some of the IITs for engineering).

Not to overlook the other inconsistences, but DU is genuinely falling. There's just some overhype among humanities students that DU is the best place to be. But tbh, DU colleges are way beyond their glory days. Universities like Jadavpur and Hyderabad are doing great. Did you know JU holds more patents than IIT-KGP? It has more research spending too. So why should a student interested in BSc. pure science degrees not go there and go to a Hindu/Ramjas where even the laboratories haven't been repaired in years?

CU and JU have been there for a very long time. So has been DU. Yes, some departments are great in CU and some are great in DU. Can't speak much for JU - but CU has produced legal luminaries, top politicians, and many other legends. Same with DU. Stop comparing - both are great and still doing fantastic despite new colleges opening up in every corner of the country. The legacy of both CU and DU is class apart.

Because of infra and number of faculty hires and research spending - which private universities anyday have an advantage over NLUs.

Tell me one research project from KIIT which you would know off, and which might have actually mattered to everyone?

Bhai. Itna obsession acha nahi hai.

Tum theek hai na?

NUJS has never included SAI facilities as part of its own infra. It cannot do so legally. This year the main reason behind the jump in ranking is because it is getting more research and consultancy projects according to the report generated.

By the way, plenty of people other than Olympians train in SAI, so you should probably revise your knowledge.

the reason behind the rank increase is the improved perception score and placements

Yea, they should get training from Savita Institute of Tech and Medical Sciences.
They got better rank from NLIU.

I am likely to get trolled for this but the reality is that NUJS does not blip on Mamata's radar. To many, like her, they "know" CU, JU, Presidency, SXC, SXU, traditional law colleges etc. Because of the absence of "politically affiliated" student unions and absence of long institutional histories, these institutions are commonly known and discussed.

The "political interference" is actually personal, in this case, by the AG. Before KD became the AG, no other AG has ever interfered this much. Historically, senior retired judges deemed "regime friendly" have held position of influence. How such individuals exercised their "influence" or got manipulated by faculty factions etc is a different story.

With KD as AG, things got quite dirty. He was smarting from the defeat in the SCM matter and brought that luggage here. KD and his "godfather" had a big role in how the Justice Ganguly issue played out. Later AG's deals with Prof Bhat and Co. got badly derailed when SJA outmaneuvered the manipulations by certain faculty members and scalped Prof Bhat and SAK. Despite best efforts by AG, Lord Taluk and NKC, the inquiries never went away.

Just when things were turning a corner for NKC and AG, the GoWB suddenly initiated a large scale inquiry covering many of the issues that were to be covered by the inquiries initiated by the EC in 2018 and 2019. These had been waylaid by AG and NKC.

It remains a mystery why the GoWB initiated an inquiry-audit, which surprised both AG and NKC. Skeptics claim that the inquiry by GoWB is actually a cover-up to help AG and NKC. Others opine that NKC was not honouring deals with AG and the inquiry is an arm twister.

Given that NKC prefers suppressing inquiry reports, we have no idea if the govt inquiry is done. Or when the report is the submitted, will NKC make it public? That AG hates transparency has been previously covered by LI here

www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/nujs-students-win-access-to-1-8gb-of-long-hidden-admin-meeting-minutes-from-madhava-menon-times-to-date-nearly-20190218-9895

Sorry, meant the presence of long institutional histories as opposed to NUJS lacking one when compared to CU, JU, Presidency, SXC (legacy effect on SXU), traditional law colleges (despite their low NAAC ratings etc).

Spot on.

Why do you follow her on Twitter?

Who said that people from NUJS are taking the rankings seriously? At least the students are not. They are doing their work, regardless of rankings. You should do yours too. I am from NUJS and I don't really care where the government says we are in a table. Won't affect our performance in industry or academia.

The metrics tested by NIRF or even foreign systems like QS can be hacked if you have got enough money and a halfway decent plan. Any private university can do it with time. That doesn't necessarily make the university a good place to study at.

Eventually global warming will cause MNLU to be washed away by the Arabian Sea. But that hasn't happened yet either.

Why do you see everything as a threat? Is this a product of nature or nurture? Why would one university be 'afraid' of another doing well?

There's that troll again. Trying to talk about an institution which currently only has got a big-ass foundation stone and little else to show for it.

What would happen to RMLNLU, Lucknow which does not have Chief Justice of UP (Allahabad H.C.) State as the Chancellor? The Governor of UP is also not Chancellor of RMLNLU.

Every NLU is the brain child of its state government. If not, then whose brainchild is RMLNLU, Lucknow.

No ranking is compulsory. Please spend some of the time you waste here in getting some real knowledge.
Nobody has ranked HNLU or any NLU when it comes to student preference. Students don't go by NIRF ranking. Otherwise half of the CLAT aspirants would have appeared for IIT KGP's law entrance too.

Spot on. All the CLAT aspirants aspire for admission in top 20 NLUs. If they fail to get it, then only they start searching for other private law colleges. NIRF ranking is never their concern.

Top 20 NLUs? Seriously? Even a person with semi decent deduction comes to know of the fact that NLU post the top 4-5 are barely a hallmark of success, to a point that it is barely a matter of concern for hardworking student if he's supposedly studying in a decentish NLU like Lucknow or in a private university like Symbiosis or Christ. It's not NLU vs Non NLU for career prospects, it's always been either top 5 NLU or the rest of the crowd. But sure, if you want to remain in the false superiority of the "20 NLU then come private colleges" paradigm, then by all means you're entitled.

You are talking nonsense. Just 4-5 NLUs? What about GNLU,NLIU and RGNUL then? Their placements are a lot super to Symbi, Christ etc. Even if you go down to NUALS, NLUO, HNLU etc they are much better, while MNLU has good log term prospects. So it's right to say that top 20 NLUs + JGLS are better than other colleges.

We know you are from RGNUL but imagine placing RGNUL with GNLU and NLIU lol. You guys have one Tier I placement, compete with Amity Noida. That's more like your league

Log term prospects sound accurate enough. You can join as a log cutter after graduation and help the government bring about development.

RGNUL placements are 'a lot super' than Symbi? You are smoking the good stuff from RGNUL for sure.