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Last I checked, the fees of NUJS for NRI sponsored students was approx the same as JGLS fees without any scholarship. If you get any scholarship at JGLS, it'll be the better option in monetary terms.
Atleast for JGLS, the campus has better infrastructure, good faculty, generally good in terms of placements.
I'm assuming you can afford both- therefore do consider aspects other than fees.
How high are you?
@Kian, the above comment should be marked as 'facts contested' cuz it makes no sense, assuming random things.
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Not to mention the access to malls, pubs, restaurants, multiplex are all within walking distance too. You literally three of the biggest hospitals chains - Apollo, AMRI and Columbia Asia - again within walking distance (in case that's a concern in the post COVID world).
With airports and railway stations within 30 mins driving distance and a top chain of five star hotels nearby (ITC, Hyatt, JW Marriott) - location is one the crucial reasons why NUJS gets a top public figure coming in for a discussion session every week.
JGLS has a fancier campus, sure. But right outside is rural India (for income inequality contrast purposes, of course!).
Just the highway is 5kms from Jindal. NLU & Ashoka are a few kilometres further away.
I wish there wasn't this big a gap between have and have nots.
Anyway, to answer your question, NUJS jao, study well !
Yes, there is a culture veered towards corporate jobs. That doesn't mean people don't want to do anything else/ have opportunities to do them. Entrepreneurs? Lawsikho, lawctopus and Sama just to name a few, some of the most successful startups BY NUJS ALUMS.
We don't have a college life? WE can reach the heart of the city in 20 mins, in a few years with metro it'll be even faster. SONIPAT IS IN A VILLAGE WHAT LIFE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
At NUJS you'll be able to explore a beautiful city and its culture, cuisine etc.
There are virtually NO RESTRICTIONS on you. You can leave campus before 11PM and come back ANY TIME. You can roam in campus till 2AM at least. It'll be one of the best decisions of your life to choose NUJS. As someone who paid the NRI Fees and had the option of taking JGLS, my decision couldn't have been better.
At NUJS you can choose to either do NOTHING and just chill around or be DROWNING under work. The seniors, juniors and general culture is one of the best because we have a "small" hostel with everyone cooped up in the same building, but all that will be immaterial after the first few months. 7. Guest has no idea what they're talking about.
Please choose NUJS.
Jokes apart, I realize JGLS is very good college that produces stellar students (in some cases) but let us not be so divorced from reality either.
Don’t believe the LI comments section. The entire NLU fam will root for NUJS and JGLS crowd will root for theirs. The former will overpower the latter in quantity so you’ll never get a fair answer. Do your own due diligence.
Look at it this way. NUJS would charge you 8 lacs and your fees would be used to fund others in the same university. Has NUJS made an investment on anything? No. They don’t have enough money. All this ranking and bs is just because NUJS has been consistently providing great placements and has been a top 3 (sometimes being ousted by NLU D but that’s very subjective). Nevertheless the placements can not be disregarded. They are great. But that’s all you get at NUJS. Nothing else.
I am forgetting the fact that you re being offered a scholarship here. JGLS would use your money and actually invest it in your favour and not to fund basic college expenses. How many 5 year law batches would an 11 year old university with no alumni base produced? Yes and no go and look at the placements stats for batches that graduated during pandemic. JGLS is slaying it. Moreover you won’t have to compete with CLAT toppers for the job, it would be easier in JGLS since most students are not interested in that corporate bs anyway. Now that the placement talk is done let’s talk about other stuff. At Jindal, you’ll have something they call a college life which is pretty much non existent at NUJS. You’d go for a semester exchange. You’d make connections with children of top lawyers, businessmen, executives, politicians and bureaucrats which would help you throughout life. You’ll get a library which would probably be larger than NUJS academic block. You’d get better accommodation and infrastructure. More career options apart from corporate jobs lmao. Better faculty. Better sports infrastructure and I could go on. Also you wont have VC issues (https://www.thequint.com/news/india/nujs-protest-not-my-vc-resignation-of-professor-ishwara-bhat) at Jindal, if you ever lag behind you’ll at least know that it was your fault and the university provided you w everything while at NUJS it could be the VC, faculty or anyone stopping you from doing what you want.
NUJS would be a dumb choice, I can’t deal with these NLU nationalists giving you false advice
For those who actually need it:-
SC- 18 (10 national and 8 domicile)
ST- 08 (6 India and 2 domicile)
Guess how many for NRI/NRI Sponsored? 18. And another 2 seats for foreign nationals.
Total 38 West Bengal domicile.
Good going NUJS.
These rankings (https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2021/law-legal-studies) might also help you. Jindal is at #76 and University of Geneva is at #76 too. University of Manchester is at #79. Tilburg University is at #82, University of Oslo is at #83 and Universität Hamburg is at 90.
I am not making any assertions, you can use your brain. Good luck.
2015: “I mean yeah but I’d still choose symbi over Jindal. Jindal is a scam.”
2016: “Okay best private university in India but miles behind any NLU. I mean look at the fees and ROI”
2017: “Scholarships are a scam, they are increasing the batch size. Jindal is going down”
2018: “I mean, if you don’t have financial issues, go for it after top 5 but I’ll still be sceptical”
2019: “What do you mean the world acknowledges QS rankings? They are crappy dude. Jindal hacked into the methodology. We are in NIRF, Jindal is not haha hehe”
2020: “Institution of Eminence? The government is sold out. There’s no potential in Jindal. We’re trying to get into QS we’ll rank above Jindal for sure. What do you mean ex-VC of my university and the only people relevant in legal academia are joining Jindal? They’re old, can’t teach. What do you mean they are hiring a lot of young successful faculty? Do you think young people with no experience would be able to teach?
Publish Jindal’s placement stats from pandemic if they have the audacity.”
2021: “50+ tier jobs in pandemic is not a huge deal bro look at their batch size. NUJS or Jindal? What do you mean we don’t have infrastructure or faculty? NUJS still better. Why are you asking for reasons to back it up. NUJS brand JGLS not brand hehe haha. What do you mean we ranked low in NIRF? NIRF methodology is crap haha hehe”
Kyu?
“Bas hai better”
Aur?
“Hum pahle paida hue the”
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The answer depends on what your specific priorities are. However assuming the general set of expectations of a law aspirant: NUJS would be the safer option. (Of course do your research and verify everything being said by everyone here, these are all personal opinions and perspectives and may not be entirely true.)
The reasons are the following:
Job Security & Alumni Network: Jindal is a relatively young law school and despite the capital behind it, it’s gonna be a while before it can be at par and deliver as consistently as the top 4-5 NLUs. Most Jindal graduates are still young and are yet to make partner in law firms or make it big in the field of litigation, that is not to say that it will not happen, however you may have graduated by the time Jindal has cemented its reputation. At the moment whether in Litigation or corporate NUJS would probably give you a higher guarantee of securing a Job. Despite recent problems with its administration its placements don’t seem to suffer much. The numbers may indicate a high number of people in jindal securing jobs with top firms however the ratio of people placed to the total number of people in the batch is poor. Furthermore, the people that do get placed may include people that have secured the same through reference or through PPOs they got through internships all on their own. A great chunk of people that get placed at Jindal i.e. the top 1% of the batch are truly gifted and motivated people with near perfect GPAs and impressive extra curricular achievements, the kind of people that would get placed regardless of which college they’re from. So if you’re a mere mortal, above average but not topper kinda kid you may have a higher chance of securing a good starting Job at NUJS.
Internships: You will find it easier to secure internships as an NUJS student than a JGLS one.
The placement cell at Jindal becomes more active during placement season however you may struggle in finding internships through college. The internships are there but like I said only the ones with the highest GPAs get access and a good chunk of people end up without internship support. I don’t know the internal workings of internships at NUJS however from seeing plenty of NUJS people at internships, it’s fair to assume that their cell is fairly active. Furthermore, the current reality is that if you’re applying independently you have a higher chance of securing an internship as an NUJS kid than a Jindal one.
3. College Life: Entirely subjective of course. You will see brilliant dedicated individuals who would not swap jindal for anything because of their experience. However, it is important to note that the University is quite isolated and if you don’t like the college atmosphere then you might struggle as you may not have an outside world to go to. Delhi is a fair bit away and fairly expensive to get to. It also takes ages in commuting no matter what mode of transport you take. I believe NUJS gives you easier access to a metropolitan city. Plus you may find it relatively safer to come back to college in the middle of the night in Kolkata rather than Sonepat. The crowd in Jindal is a mixed one, you’ll find all kinds of people. The stereotype that only elite brats go here is a bit exaggerated, you’ll find a fair bit of people that don’t fall into that category. Honestly, anyone in the general category with access to a law course delivered in English is privileged by the standards of our developing country, so you’ll find a lot of people who are roughly on the same level of access to resources as NLU grads, but yes you will also see a great portion of the Jindal stereotype. I’m being vague here because I can’t throw percentages, but the point is that there are all kinds of people in Jindal but the hard part is that you may find it tedious to meet like minded people because the crowd is huge to go through.
The Upside of Jindal:
If you’re looking for a career in academia or are interested in LLM pathway courses, Jindal may give you a slight advantage over NUJS. There’s no denying the fact that the faculty in Jindal is top notch and having access to these professors would certainly help in getting into academia.
That’s it!
At the end of the day there is more than one way to get to your destination, so if you have a goal you’ll find a way to achieve it in either place. In case you don’t during college, it’s fine life is long just be resilient cuz that’s something you’ll definitely need for law xD.
Best of Luck!
The 1% thing was not to be taken literally, the point was to convey the quality of the individuals being talked about. You could have a good CGPA of 7.0 out of 8 and still be ranked 40th in your batch in Jindal (can be verified by reaching out to recents grads on linkedin)
And don’t talk about PR buddy, be a little self aware xD this is why we get roasted for elitism. NUJS isn’t the one running ads on YouTube and a certain ahem legal blog.
I don’t generally engage in these threads and like others have already said the OP would be better served going on LinkedIn and getting in touch with recent graduates of both colleges for more authentic perspectives.
First Impressions
- NUJS has churned out people, with hustle attitude. Lot of founders, business people, partners and hard working alumnus (who also happen to be supportive). The first impression is 90% that the person is talented, and well connected.
- Jindal has massive scholar base, you say Jindal and two things pop in mind, radical parties and massive exposure. Both aren't bad. But unlike NUJS, other party has to work hard to determine talent. Which means you need to work disproportionately hard to stand out.
- All of legal respect NUJS as of now, including JGLS. The respect commanded is undisputed.
Network.
- NUJS provides excellent network with alumni network already deeply routed in the legal ecosystem, I have seen numerous NUJS fellows placed at positions in-house too. So the relationship is really both ways. If you want to work in a law firm (including foreign) or in-house, NUJS is been their done that school. Also it enjoys good relationship with NLS, NLUJ, and NALSAR circles too.
- JGLS is young and while we see entry level jobs from top law firms coming to JGLS, it will take time to settle in as de-facto school. Given the numbers, it will settle in as one, but will take maybe 10+ years more.
In a legal career, remember that you need support early, and not later. First 10 years maybe your law school will fly you, next 10 you will be on your own brand.
Opportunities and Exposure
JGLS has some class apart programs. For example the ability to do JD along with LLB, tapping into network of top schools world wide, are immensely valuable. However, only to the people looking at it. If you want to work internationally, get educated internationally, the institute of eminence tag and alumni scholarships from JGLS are absolutely golden opportunities.
The Institute of Eminence Advantage: Top international schools like Oxford, have started giving importance to this tag, you can check online. Top rank +IoE may have advantages.
NUJS has some exposure, but obviously not equivalent academic excellence. However, if a driven kid texts a alumni partner on LinkedIn, to maybe connect to a resource to guide on practical aspects of a practice area, success chance is better than JGLS.
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10 years in the future.
JGLS has 20K+ alumni. Referral work, network effect maybe at the top. However, you graduated five years ago and now as a founder of your startup are struggling to compete with other JGLS peers.
NUJS - small family, taps into other NLU network, maybe increased its intake like NLS.
1. People supposedly from Jindal would make a lot of claims, many of which have been found to be tall ones. There is also very little holistic statistics available to form informed opinions, especially given the huge batch size (including BA LLB, BBA LLB, and 3-Year LLB, almost 700-800 students per batch).
2. People supposedly from NLUs or places other than Jindal would make a lot of disparaging comments about Jindal and its students, many of which are just as hyperbolic and questionable. They would also be obviously lacking in data about the place.
3. Some people who are probably not from Jindal and/or are part of PR teams would pose as 'neutral observers' or even as 'parents' , and pass patronising comments about the excellence of Jindal, all the while revealing their lack of awareness about the reality in Indian legal industry or academia.
The only logical conclusion that can be drawn from the above is that if anyone really wants to get reliable information about Jindal in order to take an informed decision, LI is certainly not the place to get it from. Try to get in touch with individual students (not employees) from there whose identities you can verify, and who would not really have any personal incentive to 'lure you in' by making false representations. Information about most of the top NLUs are more readily available in LI and verifiable too, so this forum may still act as a somewhat reliable source for that purpose. Although even in that case, you might be better off talking to the students and obtaining independent stats to back up claims. Ranking data as available from any source (NIRF, QS etc.) would have a lot of limitations and can at best remain a supplementary source of info, nothing more.
If any trolls take umbrage at this comment, I cannot really care less. This was solely meant for the benefit of the OP and other students similarly placed.
See NUJS is an excellent institution with a legacy. NUJS would be a very safe choice. I mean especially if you are into corporate jobs.
JGLS is like a small cap stock with a lot of potential. It’s my personal opinion, I might be biased and it might also be wrong but from everything that I have seen in Jindal and the efforts and investment administration is putting, I believe that JGLS would at some point represent India. JGLS is a great law school, but when you’re coming here you’re betting on the future. Till now JGLS has exceeded all expectations by miles but you’re still betting on the future. But when you’re choosing NUJS, you’re choosing a university with a legacy of it’s own and a loyal alumni base. You’ll know that NUJS would never go down and would always remain one of the top universities in India.
Also if you’re into unnecessary luxuries or if you want a bougie peer group, you could come to Jindal. If you want a safe bet wherein you’ll nearly secure your future, go for NUJS. If you want to bet on the future and partake in building an institution with immense potential, come to Jindal. If you want to explore diverse career options and fields of law come to Jindal. But if you want to earn money, at this moment, NUJS would be a comparatively safer bet from the placement stats that I have seen.
There’s no comparison between the two universities. Both are different leagues and are excelling in their leagues. Sort out your goal in life and then choose a university. You won’t repent going to any of the universities in my opinion. And there’s nothing that you can do in one university and not in another. In the end it would not boil down to the university you chose but the efforts you put in.