Hi, Does your law firm provide you any other kind of benefits apart from Monetary compensation? Eg- insurance Cover, Meal Coupons, Free Coffee, Laptop, Internet Charges, Compensation for Late Night Uber rides, Paid Vacation etc.
Please mention the name of your law firm and the benefits that you get. Thank
L&L Partners gave INR 45,000/- as a signing bonus to people who received a PPO (immediately after confirmation of their offer, not upon joining the job). CAM apparently gives INR 70,000/- to new joiners when they join the office.
The signing bonus of 45K is deducted from the first year bonus, and is refundable if you leave before 1 year. So, it's not actually a bonus. Just advance payment of your yearly bonus with strings attached
If anyone of you lovely lawyers has been getting paid vacations, please name your firm and I'll be sending my CV in the next 5 minutes. I haven't had PTO since 2017 and I want to drop dead.
- Flexible work: No - Transport allowance: No - Insurance cover: very low / insufficient (high deductible, co-payment, long list of exclusions (mental health, dentist etc.), hardly any premium hospital coverage, probably won't get a private room, cap on ICU charges). Make sure you buy additional insurance. - Meal coupons: More relevant for corporates to save 30% tax, not relevant / given by law firms - Free coffee/tea: Cheap ones offered by most firms, better to buy and keep your own in the office - Laptop: Cheap, old one offered by most firms, better to buy your own and ask IT to set it up - Internet Charges: It's not that expensive anymore but mostly firms wouldn't reimburse - Mobile Charges: Most firms don't reimburse - Other WFH equipment (printer etc): No - Late night meals: Typically capped at a low amount and only if client is paying - Late night cabs: Typically can be reimbursed but must use the cheapest class of uber / ola - Paid vacation: Few firms had annual 2/3 day half paid retreat pre-covid, not anymore - Paid Time Off: Yes on paper. Varies between 18-30 days. But in reality, you can't take all. Carry fwd not allowed usually. - Gym / club membership: No - Car leasing: No - Education loan waiver / higher education sponsorship (part /full): Mostly no - Paid events / masterclass: Mostly no - Sabbatical: Mostly unpaid after a few years of work - Paid team events (sports, stand up comedy): Mostly no - Professional Memberships: To be paid by the employee - Gratuity: No - Marriage Bonus: Some firms pay a nominal amount
Can an A1 take sabbatical of say 6 months to explore other options and then come back to the firm? Do tier 1 firms like SAM, CAm or trilegal allow for that?
Considering all Law Firms are partnerships, this is not surprising. Even the best, wealthiest law firms with the highest headcount are at the end of the day a Lala Shop.
I really enjoyed my time at Luthra when I was interning there. You could order anything no matter how expensive if you stayed post 9 PM. Firm had its own fleet of hired cabs that would drop you. And no hassles in billing them to the client even if you are an intern - just tell the receptionist the matter number.
Also, the canteen was great with all kinds of fancy teas and coffee. Plus, the food you could buy at the canteen was also very cheap and well-made. I used to have my breakfast, lunch, dinner at the office only. I know that seems like a dull thing to say but it is pretty exciting when you are an intern.
You must be working in the corporate team of Luthra.
Litigation counsel were paid 500 for postpaid connection while corp people were paid 2000. A lot of other perks were available only for the 9th floor. First floor was heavily infested with pests and rodents.
This must be true for some corporate team and that too Delhi office. Am I correct? Mumbai office was not great at all!! Cabs definitely NO. NO CANTEEN as well. Outside food yes. Food we could order anything. Talking about 2016.
Trilegal (during WFH) has provided us with - a laptop (I got a Dell Latitude 5410, Core i5, 8 GB RAM), a Samsung M21, and a Vi Postpaid SIM Card. In the physical office we obviously had free coffee all day, a vending machine with snacks (namkeen, chips, beverages, chocolates etc), morning tea, evening snacks (different every day of the week). If you are in the office beyond 8-8:30 you can order food from anywhere and there is no cap as such but still advisable to not go around splurging. If you have stayed late, the firm has Innova cars to drop you at your home.
Is this the Mumbai office of Trilegal? I'm set to join there at A0 level in September. Are they opening up their offices anytime soon / till when will the current WFH arrangement continue?
"A 2234-word comment posted 3 days ago was not published. [Appeal decision]"
Somebody wrote an entire journal paper and Kian you didn't publish it? :( Man, we want to read it just for the sake of the effort the person must have put it writing that comment. PLEASE, ON POPULAR DEMAND! You can mark it as trollish or facts contested, we don't mind!
Hehe, would agree but this was actually a comment of someone quoting a specially encoded JPG picture 'inline', which unfortunately can't be displayed by our boards at present.
A sneak preview of what the comment looked like: "data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD" etc for 2234 'words' :)
Sorry for the confusion, we have now deleted the comment.
They will not even provide laptops. So the expectation is that associates (and even partners) are to buy their own laptop for client work.
No phone
No insurance
No internet card / data allowance
No office cabs
No dinners at office cost even if you work late - while this is technically available, it is virtually unusable as all bills will go to Queen Z for clearance.. and you know how that will work out!
Other than coffee, all snacks are chargeable (from vending machine)
There was a talk to even charge for vaccination of family members but thankfully better sense prevailed and they did it at Firm cost.
Just one of the many things thay contribute to the toxic culture.
Every associate is measured only by the hours you have logged in a year. Basically, smartness is overlooked and willingness to sacrifice personal life in too is rewarded.
Horrible place. Get out before you become one of them.
Is the work culture really that bad at SAM? I had heard that it's better when one compares it to other Tier 1s. Or does this depend completely on the team?
I think a lot of it depends on the team. If anyone here can comment about some of the teams where one can work at SAM which is decent in terms of work-life balance?
Have got to praise Veritas Legal on this. Don't know about the insurance because I had only interned there, but:
Basic snacks are free, unlimited quality coffee, Fridays are open bars(!!!) with well stocked gin, vodka etc, post-9 snacks are reimbursed till 400 and cabs are totally on them.
And lastly, the payscale - and the increments - are unlike any other boutique firm you can find.
And to top it all, what an amazing set of people. I joined a Lala firm instead because of the name, and that remains one of my biggest regrets.
I haven't seen any associate lateral hires at VL, but goddamn it would be amazing if they did.
Please mention the name of your law firm and the benefits that you get. Thank
Thanks!
- Flexible work: No
- Transport allowance: No
- Insurance cover: very low / insufficient (high deductible, co-payment, long list of exclusions (mental health, dentist etc.), hardly any premium hospital coverage, probably won't get a private room, cap on ICU charges). Make sure you buy additional insurance.
- Meal coupons: More relevant for corporates to save 30% tax, not relevant / given by law firms
- Free coffee/tea: Cheap ones offered by most firms, better to buy and keep your own in the office
- Laptop: Cheap, old one offered by most firms, better to buy your own and ask IT to set it up
- Internet Charges: It's not that expensive anymore but mostly firms wouldn't reimburse
- Mobile Charges: Most firms don't reimburse
- Other WFH equipment (printer etc): No
- Late night meals: Typically capped at a low amount and only if client is paying
- Late night cabs: Typically can be reimbursed but must use the cheapest class of uber / ola
- Paid vacation: Few firms had annual 2/3 day half paid retreat pre-covid, not anymore
- Paid Time Off: Yes on paper. Varies between 18-30 days. But in reality, you can't take all. Carry fwd not allowed usually.
- Gym / club membership: No
- Car leasing: No
- Education loan waiver / higher education sponsorship (part /full): Mostly no
- Paid events / masterclass: Mostly no
- Sabbatical: Mostly unpaid after a few years of work
- Paid team events (sports, stand up comedy): Mostly no
- Professional Memberships: To be paid by the employee
- Gratuity: No
- Marriage Bonus: Some firms pay a nominal amount
Also, the canteen was great with all kinds of fancy teas and coffee. Plus, the food you could buy at the canteen was also very cheap and well-made. I used to have my breakfast, lunch, dinner at the office only. I know that seems like a dull thing to say but it is pretty exciting when you are an intern.
Litigation counsel were paid 500 for postpaid connection while corp people were paid 2000. A lot of other perks were available only for the 9th floor. First floor was heavily infested with pests and rodents.
Somebody wrote an entire journal paper and Kian you didn't publish it? :( Man, we want to read it just for the sake of the effort the person must have put it writing that comment. PLEASE, ON POPULAR DEMAND! You can mark it as trollish or facts contested, we don't mind!
A sneak preview of what the comment looked like: "data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD" etc for 2234 'words' :)
Sorry for the confusion, we have now deleted the comment.
https://youtu.be/d1x5GXMdK50
They will not even provide laptops. So the expectation is that associates (and even partners) are to buy their own laptop for client work.
No phone
No insurance
No internet card / data allowance
No office cabs
No dinners at office cost even if you work late - while this is technically available, it is virtually unusable as all bills will go to Queen Z for clearance.. and you know how that will work out!
Other than coffee, all snacks are chargeable (from vending machine)
There was a talk to even charge for vaccination of family members but thankfully better sense prevailed and they did it at Firm cost.
Just one of the many things thay contribute to the toxic culture.
Every associate is measured only by the hours you have logged in a year. Basically, smartness is overlooked and willingness to sacrifice personal life in too is rewarded.
Horrible place. Get out before you become one of them.
If anyone here can comment about some of the teams where one can work at SAM which is decent in terms of work-life balance?
What's the scenario like at KCO (NCR) - are they offering any perks, and what's the laptop/phone scene like there?
why they don't accept my application
Basic snacks are free, unlimited quality coffee, Fridays are open bars(!!!) with well stocked gin, vodka etc, post-9 snacks are reimbursed till 400 and cabs are totally on them.
And lastly, the payscale - and the increments - are unlike any other boutique firm you can find.
And to top it all, what an amazing set of people. I joined a Lala firm instead because of the name, and that remains one of my biggest regrets.
I haven't seen any associate lateral hires at VL, but goddamn it would be amazing if they did.