The situation is much like the varna system of earlier times except now they discriminate on the basis of colleges. They literally think that except NLUs, no one is competent enough to get internships at our firms. They simply generalize all the students not belonging to shitty NLUs and may as well put up posters saying "Dumbs and Non-NLU students are not allowed".
Certain things which actually matter - a. reading of law b. command of language c. thinking on your feet d. awareness of legal resources and how to efficiently employ them e. basic diligence and efficiency f. ability to engage in small talk and holding the conversation
If you feel with your legal education, whether it be from NLU or otherwise, that you can manage the aforementioned, good for your professional legal career. However, I daresay, there is no law college in the country which can confidently say that it ensures the required benchmarks for the above. It is left to the student to try and attain some basic proficiency in all of the above. It does not matter if you work in a firm, litigation practice, PSU or teach law in a college, it is difficult to be good without having a grasp over the above qualities.
Stop arguing over internship stipend. It never has and never will matter in the scheme of things. Try and be better as much as you can be. Ensure your work is supervised and checked rigorously. Things will follow.
Everybody is running a business including the firms, the senior advocates, the companies which have in house teams. Unless you want to get lost in the meaningless race, try and be true to the profession and the subject. Things will take care of themselves. Read, and read a lot. Time is always precious, whether in college or in office. Everybody gets the same 24 hours.
I see nothing wrong in paying less to non-NLU grads. Standards at NLUs are much higher. It's like the IPL, where David Warner will naturally get paid more than Kedar Jadhav. We are not a communist country.
That's a little misleading man. Trilegal doesn't pay interns if and only if they come in through contacts or jugaad. Doesn't have a NLU bias while employing people either. Please be honest about taking advantage of the system before whining about its supposed unfairness, which seems to be entirely self-inflicted in this case.
Do not form any general opinion about the graduates from these NLUs based on the LI trolls. As someone who's graduated from one of those, I assure you that the bulk of the students do not have any such superiority complex and general douchebag-like quality.
What exactly does that have to do with what you pay an intern? Are you saying that the firms are using the internship stipend as a carrot to lure an NLU grad to seek a job with that firm, and not go anywhere else? Because if so, then that is also a highly unethical approach and certainly unfair to non-NLU interns. Having said that, the firms have been doing it since long out in the open without any thought to image or shame, so I hardly think that naming and shaming would have any effect on them as such. Further, the supply of NLU grads is not going to dry up anytime soon with a new NLU mushrooming every year, and if the non-NLU grads cease to apply to those firms because of this issue (they hardly will, since they tend to focus on a possible subsequent job offer, and not on the stipend, as Day Zero won't happen in their institutions), then the firms would simply take in more NLU grads. It is a supply and demand mismatch at this stage, and the law firms (especially the tier one firms) can pretty much get away with most things.
I can say for sure that I interned at brother of ahead of the curve and co. For 2 months and wasn't paid a single penny. Whereas nlu students got 8k for 3 weeks. Same with Lulu and Lulu partners who paid me nil for a 4.5 week internship whereas they paid 10k to an nlu intern. When asked the HR , he said top nlu se hai to milega. Also with Bilegal. Top nlu interns were paid 13-16k and glc intern was paid nil. The hr of brother of ahead of curve and co had the audacity to say that they don't pay to interns, whereas they paid other nlu interns. Making mockery of students, pay according to performance.
It’s not just about whether your responsibilities are the same. It’s also about whether an NLU grad could go out tomorrow and get a job for better pay. And if a glc grad could do the same.
Comment 1.1 is everything wrong with society and toxic NLU mentality that CLAT and coaching institutions have successfully created. If you’re in the TOP 5 then you’re good to go and you’ve made your parents proud. Anything other than that is considered peasant. This has not only created these differences in pay at law firms for students for the same job profile from different universities but also led to worsening of mental health of kids. Students who could not perform one day in a crappy flawed exam, go through this everyday thinking that they’ve not achieved it in life. Lack of motivation doesn’t let them try for opportunities they could’ve easily scored in.
I am not calling out any law firm but dear NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ and NLUD, the so called tier 1 NLUs, please get out of your shells and look what you’re doing. Please get over your fake superiority because at multiple occasions have you been annihilated by kids from NLUO and other low rung NLUs in moots. BTW NLUO reached Jessup semi finals. Even Jindal, MNLU and NLIUB did good. You’re not superior. You just have good alumni or good location. That’s it.
As for clat a 1000 ranker could be rank 1 someday and 1st ranker could be 1000, it’s a game of luck, congratulations for your luck worked that day but don’t incline your entire life upon it
If both categories of graduates are employed for the same/similar task, then sure, Google also should be named and shamed. Get off your high horse; law firms that indulge in differential pay aren't really making non-NLU graduates work less vis-a-vis NLU graduates, or holding the former to a lower pedestal when it comes to work product expectations. Against this backdrop, there is absolutely no justification for a differential pay. Also, there is a big assumption that folks that graduated from NLUs are inherently better than those who didn't, and this assumption is another dump of horse shit.
Yes, because both people literally have the same job profile at the same firm. If you think a person's college matters that much, then people from other colleges would not have been hired. It's such a ridiculous notion to decide someone's salary based on the college they come from.
What name and shame? Its totally justified. Would you name and shame Google if it paid one scale to IIT grads and another to Symbi/Amity/Galgotias BTech grads?
Many firms, both Tier 1 and others choose to pay interns and incoming associates differently based on the law school they're from. Let's take names and shame these firms here!
a. reading of law
b. command of language
c. thinking on your feet
d. awareness of legal resources and how to efficiently employ them
e. basic diligence and efficiency
f. ability to engage in small talk and holding the conversation
If you feel with your legal education, whether it be from NLU or otherwise, that you can manage the aforementioned, good for your professional legal career. However, I daresay, there is no law college in the country which can confidently say that it ensures the required benchmarks for the above. It is left to the student to try and attain some basic proficiency in all of the above. It does not matter if you work in a firm, litigation practice, PSU or teach law in a college, it is difficult to be good without having a grasp over the above qualities.
Stop arguing over internship stipend. It never has and never will matter in the scheme of things. Try and be better as much as you can be. Ensure your work is supervised and checked rigorously. Things will follow.
Everybody is running a business including the firms, the senior advocates, the companies which have in house teams. Unless you want to get lost in the meaningless race, try and be true to the profession and the subject. Things will take care of themselves. Read, and read a lot. Time is always precious, whether in college or in office. Everybody gets the same 24 hours.
I am not calling out any law firm but dear NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ and NLUD, the so called tier 1 NLUs, please get out of your shells and look what you’re doing. Please get over your fake superiority because at multiple occasions have you been annihilated by kids from NLUO and other low rung NLUs in moots. BTW NLUO reached Jessup semi finals. Even Jindal, MNLU and NLIUB did good. You’re not superior. You just have good alumni or good location. That’s it.
As for clat a 1000 ranker could be rank 1 someday and 1st ranker could be 1000, it’s a game of luck, congratulations for your luck worked that day but don’t incline your entire life upon it
If you think a person's college matters that much, then people from other colleges would not have been hired. It's such a ridiculous notion to decide someone's salary based on the college they come from.