Rumour has it there's been a major showdown between the regular alumni and the lallum alumni at the general body meeting of the NLS Alumni Association. The entire alumni weekend and gala dinner organised in Nagarbhavi this weekend seems to be overshadowed by this circus. Unfortunate, considering the remarkable steps being taken by the VC, the alumni relations office, and the rest of the NLS admin.
Bloated egos! NLS isnt what is once was. Even in certain law firms, the NLS cadre tries to act as one coterie and fail sadly when the others kick their ass!
I know many NLSIU BA LLB grads who have not reached anywhere near the level of success of their top BA LLB grads. So are you saying that they should be mocked too, or not granted the respect that alum deserve? Because only fools cannot understand that mocking the students in general of a programme run by a university amounts to mocking the programme and by extension, the university itself.
Then the alum who had to repeat a year or even two should be the only ones who should be called for reunion, because they are the ones who have spent the longest there.
That's an exception. You can't call BALLB folks with someone who had completed an online degree from the law school. The level of connection will just not be the same! The BALLB batches have a different kind of connect where we personally know alums who have passed out of law school even before we had entered. Can't say the same for other courses.
You don't need to have a personal connection with someone in order to accord them basic courtesy and respect. If NLS hasn't taught you that, then frankly, you don't deserve to be called its alum either.
LLM students at NLUs are mocked and disrespected even by first years. This even includes LLM students with BALLB degrees from NLUs. Event they are not immune from mockery. But IMO it's actually a class issue, because many LLM students are those who lack the finances or proficiency in English to pursue an LLM abroad.
Why can't you? Are you forcing them to share a room together at night? Is every programme that they attend full of NLSIU BA LLB alumni only? This is just a rather sorry display of insecurity and entitlement. The university isn't anyone's property, everyone who has paid money and obtained a degree are entitled to similar treatment officially. You don't want to talk to those people, don't. It's when people start getting notions of being extra special that such problems emerge.
No one is stopping Lallums or for that matter online distance learning people or MBA people from starting their own alumni associations. Why do they have to leach off the LLB alum group is something I don't understand.
Correct. Go to any Ivy league alum groups or get togethers. And they are fiercely competitive. It is like a family or a brotherhood. You just do not become part of the brotherhood by doing a one year course or a distance learning online course. It is unfair on those people who slogged their asses off to reach Ivy colleges. Same for NLS.
Actually you could not be more wrong. For almost all international Universities, including the likes of Harvard, Oxbridge, etc. if you are doing a one year program as opposed to the longer duration programs, when it comes to being invited and being considered alumni there is no difference. Even distance learning program students are considered alumni. NLS five year students, many of whom would have attended international Universities would be aware of this. It is only a classist mindset. IMO alumni events are for networking and bigger the network more beneficial for all its members. Everyone has something to contribute and gain. No one is asking you to be friends with people you don't relate to but alumni networking can be beneficial, for example, consider an LL.M. who is now a GC in a big corporate, will any big law Partner be opposed to be part of the same network?
He has not questioned that. Everyone is an alum. Including if you have done an online diploma. But in NLS context and in case of Harvard or Oxford they have their own alum chapters for different streams. So in this case if NLS grad alums are meeting they are not bound to invite NLS PG or NLS distance learning students. They are free to have their own alum get togethers. When Harvard JD alum meets they don't invite Medicine school or B school alums or for that matter LLMs. Secondly, the Indian LLM degree is not at par with an Ivy league LLM degree, where it is given its due recognition because it is almost an essential qualification for foreign lawyers as most state bars require a US degree. While in India LLM is not relevant for practicing.
Absolutely wrong. Either you are from the family or not. You should be searching for connection and support in this world, not ways to further separate or diminish others. Publish the names of such LLB folks, so we may not hire them, like anti-semites at Harvard.
As a Harvard LLM grad, I can assure you that while the JD and LLM students operate in different academic circles (inherently built into the system), there is no absurd class system, and all alum treat each other with respect and brotherhood. In fact, JD - LLM interactions are quite helpful for networking and expanding your horizons in an academic setting.
It is clearl Lallum folks should attend the alumni meet of law schools where they graduated from. That way even a MBL from NLS is an alumni. What's the point of having a brotherhood alumni if anyone can do a one year course or distance learning course and starts to claim himself an NLS alum? So this person can that way reap benefits of three different alumni associations? One of his own grad law school, one of from where he did PG from and one of where he did his distance learning for? If they want than PG students or any one year course student can create their own alumni group. No one is stopping them. I just do not get this idea of why they have to leach on the strengths of the 5 year LLB group or join a network which they were originally not a part of. They just want to reap the benefits of two alumni groups/networks one of their own grad school and one of NLS, and it is unfair.
Regardless of what you feel, they are still alum. The university runs on their money just as it does on yours. And ivy league colleges do include LLM alum in the alum programmes. I know that from personal experience. This entire comment thread is just an illustration of how many LLB alumni of NLSIU are boorish idiots who aren't worthy of the alum tag. Hard work of alum association? What hard work?
Clearly an online diploma course holder is also an alum. So that is not even in dispute. But if it is a student run alum get together then LLB grads are not at all bound to call LLM grads. They can have their own alum meets. No one is stopping that.
Did this happen for real or it's just a bunch of entitled 1st year BA LLB students trying to create unnecessary drama by portraying that there is a conflict between LLM and BA LLB alums when the reality is neither of the folks from either of the cohorts would bother about nonsensical brotherhoods or cliques. I swear some of my peers from the 5 year program are quite insufferable. Tbh, in the real world no one would care about such things and mostly people would interact respectfully with each other regardless of whichever cohort they belonged to.
Just one for 5-year LLB and another for the rest. Studying law and BTech (CSE) at IIT Kharagpur are not the same. Similarly, BALLB is miles ahead of any other course at NLS.
To the LLM alums, read these lyrics and hope it helps!
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again? Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin Like a house of cards, one blow from cavin' in? Do you ever feel already buried deep? Six feet under screams, but no one seems to hear a thing Do you know that there's still a chance for you? 'Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light And let it shine Just own the night Like the Fourth of July
'Cause baby, you're a firework Come on, show 'em what you're worth Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" As you shoot across the sky Baby, you're a firework Come on, let your colors burst Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
You don't have to feel like a waste of space You're original, cannot be replaced If you only knew what the future holds After a hurricane comes a rainbow Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow And when it's time, you'll know
You just gotta ignite the light And let it shine Just own the night Like the Fourth of July
'Cause baby, you're a firework Come on, show 'em what you're worth Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" As you shoot across the sky Baby, you're a firework Come on, let your colors burst Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon It's always been inside of you, you, you And now it's time to let it through
'Cause baby, you're a firework Come on, show 'em what you're worth Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" As you shoot across the sky Baby, you're a firework Come on, let your colors burst Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh" You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon Boom, boom, boom Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Have one alum meet/association for undergrad alumni (BALLB) and one for postgrad alumni (LLM, MPP and 3-year LLB, which is postgrad as it can only be pursued after undergrad)
You only pass out at a bar.
Get your head out of your ass
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from cavin' in?
Do you ever feel already buried deep?
Six feet under screams, but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you?
'Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July
'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
You don't have to feel like a waste of space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow
Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it's time, you'll know
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July
'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It's always been inside of you, you, you
And now it's time to let it through
'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon