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GLC mumbai - bad reputation? No lectures, attendance, exams, etc?

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 08:25

hey guys,

everyone is saying that glc is going through bad reputation…no lectures,no attendence, and even the exams are for name sake…its not worth to take admission in glc… their faculty is also not good..

theoretical knowledge is zero there..

so please help me to know about the real reputation of glc and whether it is useful to take admission there or not… you wil really help me by replyng so plz do reply… :(

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kianganz 16 Aug 2012, 08:44

GLC does have a bad reputation, as well as a great reputation.

True, GLC’s repute is not built on teachers, classes and lectures - although a few of the present teachers are great.

But in all honesty, does legal education need a lot of teachers, classes and lectures?

You go to glc for legacy, for the excellent network.

And because you barely have to attend classes, you get to do copious amounts of internships at good Mumbai law firms…

Would welcome some views from GLC’ites…

Best wishes,

Kian

Ps: Please do use full sentences and correct spelling, rather than Txt Msg spk, which is very hard to read and doesn’t look very professional.

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 09:14

Hi Celine,

I would want to inform you that all that you have heard about GLC is very true. The ambience of the college is bad. The faculty for various subjects is not appointed. There are no lectures that take place and the exams are name sake. Thus, I would suggest to you to take admission in SVKM’s Pravin Gandhi College of Law. I am lawyer myself and I have studied in SVKM’s Pravin Gandhi College of Law. The academics, faculty and even the extra curicular activities in this college are great.

All the best!!!

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 09:21

Yes GLC is a good college.

It has a legacy which is continuous and frankly speaking a student who is in the process of gaining legal education does not require lectures. Plus the present faculty is very good.

Whether the reputation of the College is good or bad this depends from the nu mber of Placements the students get and at present GLC is flourishing in it.

To work in a law firm practical usage of law is a priority and the theoretical knowledge of law is not the only need today and the amount of internships students at GLC do and the exposure they get is any time better than any other Law College.

kianganz 16 Aug 2012, 09:35

Good point GLC Student - have a look at the approximate recruitment figures from 2011, which weren’t bad:

http://www.legallyindia.com/201106072148/Law-schools/classical-recruitment-mix-at-glc-mumbai-with-bar-solicitors-llms-50-desk-jobs

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 09:36

The biggest advantage you have by studying in GLC is opportunities of internships. Many firms look to GLC students for long term internships which later matures into a position as an associate. You will learn the law on the job.

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 09:41

Lectures and classes are an alien concept..

If you want to learn things uve gotto have the determination to lock urself into a room all day and study and play counter strike during breaks and when you step out of your room just to answer the basic calls of nature and nothing more then you realize you are close to nailing it (thats what einstein, proust and hendrix did to name a few)…

no one ever gained anything from attending lectures hence GLC being smart in a very cryptic way has made them optional..for your good..

moreover u don’t get to know even your classmates..imagine how cool it is to not know any stupid people around who devote their lives to get an increment in the committee fund..

and you get to see marine drive everyday..

So sonny boy, shed your inhibitions and get on board and stop whining for god’s sake…

and who ever thinks SVKM is better than GLC mght want to check why its 5 years course has been recognized by the Bar Council of India. http://barandbench.com/brief/2/1006/bar-council-of-india-lists-de-recognised-law-colleges

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 10:25

Dear All,

Government Law College, Mumbai, after 160 years, is still amongst the top 10 law schools in India.

Though it would be unfair to say that all is well with the institution, at the same time it is important to view its problems in perspective. The College has a two-fold control system, on the academic front, it is controlled by the University of Mumbai, and on the administrative front, it is controlled by the Government of Maharashtra through the Director of Higher and Technical Education, Pune. Hence, any proposal for any change in this institution has to go through the rigor of the bureaucracy in either of these two entities (MU or Govt). Unlike others, we do not enjoy the autonomy to take our own decisions on either the academic or the administrative front.

As far as lectures and professors are concerned, we have some of the best legal brains teaching us, even today. From Prof. H D Pithawala to Prof K L Daswani, to Prof. I R Punjawani to Prof S. Dalvi, and several others. This list also includes senior members of the Bombay Bar of the likes of Mr. J P Cama and T N Subramanian to Mr. Haresh Jagtiani, who take special guest lectures and share their rich experience with the students on various subjects.

As far as attending these lectures is concerned, at any point in time, the lectures of these professors are attended by large number of students, not only of that relevant batch, but even from other batches.

Admittedly, we have a severe shortage of full-time teaching faculty, but the process is marred by bureaucratic hassles at the MPSC-level and there is not much we can do about.

We also have a severe shortage of non-teaching administrative staff as a result of which there is lot of work pressure on them. But we, as students, have tried to our best to help in every way we can to reduce this pressure by helping them out.

As far as the activities of the student community goes, from orgsnizing moots to conferences to MUNs to Legal Aid and a host of other culutral and academic activities is concerned, we have proved ourselves.

The point I am trying to drive at is, that despite several odds, we, as an Institution, are trying our best and there will be a day when we shall regain our pride of place as the best Law School in this nation.

kianganz 16 Aug 2012, 10:39

Fantastic points made Rubin, I’d pretty much agree.

If I was a student-to-be and I liked Mumbai, I’d probably give GLC a strong look as a real alternative to the national law schools…

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 11:26

thank you all for your replies they have really helped me a lot…but i have some more queries..like though glc have strong alumni and network and they provide good internship because of which students have good practical knowledge,,,and thats also fine that we have to try ourselves to excede only good teachers and college can’t do anything,,,

but are they not necessary,good teachers..regular classes adds plus point to our hard work and what about our base if that is not strong how we will move further…and we can’t ignore all this…they are the most important part in shaping students future…

so basically i wanted to say that is glc’s reputation is mostly based on how student individually performs there on its own…and its strong alumni,,,and ya also because of the added name bombay..,thats all and so if we put it straight forward right now glc is lacking in faculty and regular clases and exams conducted there…

and i am sorry for sms language

AnonymousLLB 16 Aug 2012, 12:53

Hello. I am a first year student of the 5 year Law Course at GLC.

Okay,frankly speaking, for once I did feel that there were no lectures. The reason: having come from a boarding school where everything is perfect and well-timed. But after about a month all has fallen into the right place.

I do not know about the senior years but atleast for the First Year we have really good teachers for the various subjects. The fact actually is, that it depends upon the student if he/she attends those lectures!

Many of my classmates are into various committees, sports and the like and hence the attendance of the class is always average. Ah! I myself did not attend a single lecture today as I along with my friend were doing some work as given by the Magazine Committee of which we are members. Working in these committees do make us miss our classes but then we get to explore, learn and understand various other things of RELEVANCE.

We have an active student participation through various committees, and events, curricular, co-curricular and extra-curricular are well organised and managed by the students. (The Freshers’ Moot Court competition and the Freshers’ Party are great examples!!)

We get to learn so much of the practical aspect that its pretty natural to try and explore the theoretical aspect ourselves. We have our teachers to guide us all the time. WE need to approach them too.

My final answer to the question raised in the topic:

Lectures- YES!

Attendance-Depends on the student..!!

Exams-Not yet had them!

etc-..etc..(please specify)

:)

P.S. Dude! GLC is awesome!!! :D

DBS 16 Aug 2012, 17:33

This isn’t anything new! This has been the case for past many years. GLC did not even have a full time principal. Only last yr or earlier this year a Principal has been appointed who was the President of the Industrial Court.

Completely agree with Kian that you go to GLC for legacy, for the excellent network.As all the law firms are nearby you can intern there! You will learn a lot more things on the job than in the lectures atleast that’s what i found out. I attended more than half the lectures in college but on most occassions I would be the one getting ATKT’s in every other exam thanks to Mumbai University’s horrendous standards!!! While the ones who would be wasting time & hardly be seen in college were topping in the exams!!!Anyways that’s an altogether different topic.

But once you passout from GLC , you have that stamp that you have passed out from GLC & that always helps. On paper it is the best law college in Mumbai.

Also there are other decent law colleges in Mumbai also but from i have heard some colleges in Pune are better off.

AnonymousLLB 17 Aug 2012, 16:17

well celine, i am a first year student in GLC so i’m sharing my personal experiences. First up, no lectures thingy is not-at-all true!! we regularly have lectures from 10.30-2, though its upto u if u wanna attend! also, ur classmates have probably the best scores in 12th boards so dats another plus point. Attendence, another-upto-you thing, if u want to attend u can, but no one forces u. I guess dats the case in all the colleges so… not had any exams yet so can’t comment!

there are many other advantages of coming to GLC most of which has been mentioned: Awesome internships; infact we have the best placement record and the faculty is very good and take a very good interest in students( we just don’t have one lecturer for logic).

Another fantastic thing is having such seniors who are always always there for u, don’t treat u like dirt, help u out whenever asked, which is one thing i’m sure most colleges don’t have!! and more committees than u can possibly count!! So when we get busy with the committee work we may miss out on classes, but the experience makes for it!! plus make friends with people who are permanently taking notes and attend class.

So, all in all, its upto u if u want to attend the lecs, get 75% attendence and pass exams!!! Come if u want to get the best possible stepping stone to the law world!!

AnonymousLLB 17 Aug 2012, 18:17

when one comes to GLC, it is for the network, the amazing alumni and the chance to learn from the people who have shaped india’s legal history.

I gave CLAT and got through NLU Jpdhpur but then i thought what i can do in NLU J i can do in GLC, which to read good books, write papers and moot, basically study but what i can do in GLC i can’t do in NLU J i.e enjoy life and work in different spheres of law and expose myself to different fields of law.

Th yadrstick for success in today’s world is placements. Now every year we place around 120 students in different law firms of India. Kian, i would like to point out the stats you have are only On-Campus Recruitment, because the batch is so huge not everyone can be accounted for.There are so many students who get jobs both don’t inform the committee. Every year Amarchand, trilegal, JSA, Wadia, AZB etc recruit interns, associates and paralegals. Even an NLU guy would admit that GLCites are right up there with them. GLCites are smart they use their surroundings to their advantage.

The annual packkages go upto 15 lskh p.a plus we produce astute, smart and hardworking lawyers( see the alumni for further reference). Its no fluke that every year such amazing lawyers come out of college.we are the only top college where students opt to practice litigation out of choice.

As rubin pointed out there are issues but every law school has them for eg NALSAR recently had that VC problem when there were allegations of money laundering and sexual harrassment but no one says anything about NALSAR. Similar problems plague other law colleges also.

Another person pointed out that this has been the problem since about 60-70 years. Now even the likes of Goolam vahanvati and other legal Stalwarts faced the same problems in college, faced the same incompetent Mumbai University but they have done exceedingly well. This proves that the students in the college are brilliant otherwise why would the college produce so manhy brilliant lawyers.

The other great advantage is that we pay peanuts for excellent legal education while the NLU guys pay lakhs. Just because we don’t have autonomy and its a government institution it comes in to eyes of the public, like every other institution and these NLU’s dont becauseall their news is filtered. This doesn’t make the college bad. It will and will always remain the benchmark of indian legal education.

THe one thing that makes me proud is that even if the college goes to dogs, whenever people will discuss about law in India GLC will always come up but that can’t be said about an NLU. That’s the difference

AnonymousLLB 17 Aug 2012, 20:40

Just to add a point to why one goes to GLC - for those truly interested in counsel practice! All other factors apart, GLC offers the best training ground for dispute resolution. Which other college can boast of Senior Counsel coming to campus for internships and recruitment? Statistically, in the past 8 years alone (i.e. after all the significant law schools had been set up and churned out a couple of batches), juniors to the cream of senior counsel in Mumbai (read Janak Dwarkadas, Darius Khambatta, Ravi Kadam, Aspi Chinoy, J.P. Cama, the Tulzapurkar brothers, Soli Dastur, Diniyar Madon, T.N. Subramanian, S.U. Kamdar, Venkatesh Dhond to name a few) are ONLY from GLC, barring a few exceptions from NLSIU Bangalore. Practically the entire original side Bombay Bar is GLC. I don’t know why LI hasn’t done a story yet on the graduates who take up counsel practice in chambers of reputed Senior Counsel. These are probably among the brightest kids from GLC, who shun fancy desk jobs, struggle initially, and in 10 to 15 years from graduation, make more than an equity partner in a Big Law. And why did they / could they shun the high paying desk job - simply because they got a chance to work with these guys while they were still students. And realized that the initial years of struggle were worth the long term benefits and truly understood the excitement that comes with litigation.

AnonymousLLB 19 Aug 2012, 09:34

thank you all for your support…after reading so many strong points i really can’t deny that glc is a good platform to make your carrier in law…nd i think if you have that lust for law no one can ever stop you from becoming a good lawyer…thank you all for boosting my confidence…i am goin to take admission in glc :cheer: :cheer:

AnonymousLLB 21 Aug 2012, 16:38

I did not have enough percentage to get admission in GLC, else I might have joined it too.

If you are interested in litigation, then GLC may turn out be a very very viable option. You cannot get better exposure than the places like Delhi and Mumbai, and it hell matters a lot. Apart from good studies, it is also the social interactions and practical work which helps one in becoming a good lawyer. And the same, you can hardly get in any National Law Universities. The reason why the most people from NLUs join law firms because their choice is very limited. To be honest, they really do not get to interact with people as much students from GLC and Delhi University get to do.

Please go ahead with GLC :)

AnonymousLLB 23 Aug 2012, 20:25

There is no better education than adversity. GLC is just that. We GLC students learn to get around the poor infrastructure and faculty and look beyond to take advantage of the fact no two students that graduate from this institute tread the same path. Nothing is termed as ‘standard’ or ‘accepted’ and this sets us apart from the rest.

As to our lack of faculty, contrary to what is commonly believed, good faculty is not to be taken for granted even in national law schools. Come to think of it, the best lawyers in their respective fields would be practicing law rather than teaching it especially when most (or in fact all) national law schools are situated much too far from the main city. So although GLC students don’t get the benefit of a classroom atmosphere, we work under those very lawyers who are making or at the very least contributing to the evolution of the law that we seek to learn. Thus while NLU students are ‘learning’ the letter of the law (not that GLC students aren’t!), we see it live at work! Applying what has been studied in practical situations not only helps in retaining more but also helps in a more holistic understanding of the law. There’s a reason the institute of chartered accountants mandates practical training over a classroom format of education. GLC can be said to follow a similar format.

However, GLC loses out to the NLUs in primarily 2 spheres : a much needed updated curriculum and the international placements that the 3-4 top NLUs receive. At the same time, GLC’s strength is in its quality of students that has despite all the bad press only improved. Its finally upto the student to exploit the opportunities that Mumbai and more importantly the Bombay High Court have to offer.

So while not dismissing the NLU format of education, one must realize that the GLC format runs parallel to the former and just because it isn’t conventional does not mean that it is not successful.

AnonymousLLB 7 Sept 2012, 10:46

I myself passed out of GLC 2 years ago thinking it was the ONLY decent college to study law in Mumbai. An alumni consisting of “legal-celebrities” and a good placement reputation is what drove me to GLC. However, i attended a seminar recently at SVKM’s Pravin Gandhi College of Law and i was pleasantly shocked to see such a brilliant legal atmosphere at a college not as famous as GLC. The seminar im talking about had speakers such as Anand Desai (Managing Partner of a top Law firm) and Mahesh Jethmalani (son of Ram Jethmalani and himself a leading lawyer). All this apart, the college boasts of excellent facilities such as an e-library (probably the only law school in Mumbai to have one) which has some really exceptional reads. I do not know much about the quality of teaching in the College but the teachers i interacted with seemed highly intellectual. All in all, i was really impressed by the college even though the SVKM trust is the biggest educational trust in India.

Good Luck!!

AnonymousLLB 10 Sept 2013, 20:29

Is attendance compulsory in GLC??

AnonymousLLB 28 Jan 2014, 12:11

I am also waiting for the same answer.

Can anyone please confirm if there is any compulsion for Attendance?

I am working and I am unable to attend classes but interested to do law. Someone please confirm on this.

Thanks,

RG

AnonymousLLB 28 May 2014, 01:31

can you give me details about placements

AnonymousLLB 12 Jun 2014, 13:27

I AM DOING COMPANY SECRETARY TRAINING SO THERE IS COMPULSORY TO ATTEND COLLEGE..?

AnonymousLLB 19 Jul 2014, 12:57

Are admissions in glc taken on d basis of 12th boards %age or der is an entrance also ?

AnonymousLLB 21 Aug 2014, 17:12

Hello..I really want to know that do students actually have to attend college or something if they’re in GLC?

Do we just have to intern?

Are there any compulsory number of internships required?

What is the procedure?

How are the exams?

Is attendance compulsory?

Please reply soon.

P.S. - Please answer these questions keeping in mind that I am asking it in reference to the 5year BLS LLB course.

AnonymousLLB 16 Sept 2014, 15:41

Can you please tell me what is the cutoff percentage for 3years course… From Ba

AnonymousLLB 16 Sept 2014, 15:46

what is last years cuttoff percentage? Can i get admission with 70% in TyBa?Is there any need for giving CLAT exam?[b

AnonymousLLB 29 Nov 2014, 19:38

I am doing graduation in science subject but law is my passion and i want to get admission in government law college mumbai. As O am a student out of maharashtra board, 5% of my marks will be reduced while considering me in the merit list and i belong to general cast too. So what should be my minimum score to get 100 percent assurance that i will crack glc cutoff.

Guest 30 May 2015, 12:31

hey everyone

i ve got into CLAT (rank 1011) and also 96.2% in my boards. should i choose GLC or ILS or NLUO, NLU KOCHI ??

I want a good paying job.. I M REALLY CONFUSED what should i go in for.

plz also tell me if students get stipend in the internships they get to do in GLC ?..

and what packages do they get after graduation ? is it better than NLUS ?

AnonymousLLB 3 Jun 2015, 14:15

What is the cut off of last year BA LLB of skvm?

AnonymousLLB 18 Jun 2015, 10:29

i am waiting for the second merit list of glc and frankly i am confused. i really want to join this institution but i have some doubts because of the classes and lecture thing. i am getting nlu but not the top ones and i don’t want to go for the others.please help me.

AnonymousLLB 28 Jul 2015, 14:30

I am a student at GLC F.Y.BL.S

there maybe a few flaws in the system of the college, but this college provides a platform better than the rest for a career in law.

having no attendance doesn’t mean we bunk, we engage ourselves in other productive activities like internship.

this college has a number of committees which encourage mooting, debating, sports and participation in other activities. the committees are managed by seniors and they are very helpful and guide the freshers as well.

recently, we had the Freshers Debate and upcoming is Freshers Moot.

i think GLC is a very good college for exposure even if the infrastructure does not match its name. The faculty is also very good.