Quoting applicant:

How I can apply for this post? What salary i can expect?

I did eight months experience at a leading law firm and did my LLM from a leading national law school with rank 2. I did also mooting MUNNing. I organised lot of events like face-painting campaign against climate change and paintball competition.

Can someone tell me if I can get this post. Willing to make some under the table payments if necessary.

LLM from a leading national law school? LOL. LLMs from Indian univs are worth less than toilet paper.

Dood, have you tried toiler paper or LLM from Indian Uni.? Which one? Tell me nah, I am contemplating toilet paper though.

Dont generalise... i am very great at law and have some moot wons as above stated. Anyway, just tell me how to applying. Let the committee will decide.

Quoting Nick:

This should have happened 2 years ago. I guess He got spooked by the [...] charges. I really feel sorry for the CJA. Imagine the irony of a state judicial academy being run by a man who has (effectively)been [alleged] of [...] mismanagement by a panel consisting of Judges and an ex-Judge.

there are no charges against him.

Read the report. Most of the allegations have been on the pre-Veer Singh admin. For all his faults, the man is not corrupt. He may have been unknown to the law school circuit before he came to NALSAR but there are batches of his students who swear by his integrity.

Yeah, I have heard stories of his 'brilliance' during his Punjab Univ. days. Eh, but Bhainga Baba is, well, Bhainga Baba.

yes, you are right. others need to really read the report.

Quoting Anna:

@5 stop using Anna i have been using since long....:)

while this is certainly good news that NALSAR VC has resigned i strongly oppose nominating Professor Dhanda as the next VC my reason for same:

it cannot be denied that Prof. dhanda is a brillaint faculty and well connected i would like to know through this forum that what was she doing while all these financial irregularity was happening in NALSAR. she could take on VC when she was denied taking a class but never had the courage to speak against all this. She could have complained to the academic council (of which she herself is a member) or could have at least written to the Chancellor just the way she did in her case. It would be naive and stupid to assume that Prof Dhanda did not know about this....she has been at helm of affairs and hence if not party to all this she is no less culpable.

NO to Dhanda. I don't like her. She makes ridicule of you, if you don't know her work. Everyone can't be Anjaneya Das,Kunal Singh, Anjali Rawat, Prateek Andharia,Nageshwar, Varun Baliga or Utkarsh Mishra. There are people like us who require more attention. We take time to learn.

without prejudice to the academic performance of the people mentioned above there exist no pedagogical research which says that Socratic method of teaching is the best way. one reason why many students complain is because the method is essentially cryptic and not a good way when u compare to traditional method of teaching (lectures) coupled with class discussion....it is useless to assume that all students would have understood the reading assigned without even giving a background of reading and not even taking some time to explain the basic premises...

And of course you would know - having so much experience teaching, and having read so much about legal education.

So much nicer for people like you to be taught Phut-noting by VK and to get marks for sycophancy isn't it? Who likes a teacher who actually expects you to shudder work!

Quoting the King:

And of course you would know - having so much experience teaching, and having read so much about legal education.

So much nicer for people like you to be taught Phut-noting by VK and to get marks for sycophancy isn't it? Who likes a teacher who actually expects you to shudder work!

you're from the second year batch, aren't you.

I don't think you've understood what the Socratic method really means. And if you've actually sat through Dhanda's classes, you'd know that she doesn't stick to one form of pedagogy. She begins every class at the board outlining the basic premises, for God's sake! Stop making excuses for your laziness.

Maybe you deserve to be ridiculed, if you use language such as "she makes ridicule of you." If you need so much time to learn, you should go to Chaudhary Charan Singh University instead.

My, my, how dare a woman suggest you are wrong eh? That is so embarrassing, it is ridicule. After all, they should be married and in the kitchen making parathas. Not standing shamelessly in class disagreeing with what men say. Can you believe the nerve of such women? Trying to make a man look foolish...
If she goes and becomes VC, how terrible it will be. A woman giving people orders. Better to get another real man like Veer Singh. Because they don't ridicule anyone.

Dear Jhanda

go cut your hairs and wear cloths like dhanda....stop your feminist rant.....poor Anna not even hinted that she is to be opposed just because she is a woman but because she happens to be a senior faculty and did nothing....

Best
People of NALSAR who are fed up of you and your feminism
ohh i need break

One can tell by the spellings how woefully unsuited for university this tear-down-dhanda club is.

Firstly I am a man so thanks for that little giveaway.

Secondly - the plural of hair is 'hair' not 'hairs' and it is 'clothes' not 'cloths'

Thirdly - of course you are fed up with feminism. If a particular anatomical feature was not all important than what would you ever be worth?

Best,
Go get an education (though it is probably too late already)

I'm guessing you're flying high after your drums drama made it to LI.

dude, whoever you are, you forgot one name and possibly that person will sue you for this grave omission!

And before you could leak her papers, the University found out.

And yet he aced all the exams. STOP getting jealous, please. Hes a stud. Admit it. :)

And that absolves him of any wrongdoing. Brilliant logic, that.

No, your comment contradicts itself. You said before he could leak the papers, the university found out, and yet he aced the exams. Doesnt he stand vindicated here. Stop speaking shit.
And for the record, I am neither his close friend nor from the "yo group", as you would put it.

Band karo bakchodi!

Got to love the "Yo group".
Pratik is a stud.Period.

Quoting Anna:

@5 stop using Anna i have been using since long....:)

while this is certainly good news that NALSAR VC has resigned i strongly oppose nominating Professor Dhanda as the next VC my reason for same:

it cannot be denied that Prof. dhanda is a brillaint faculty and well connected i would like to know through this forum that what was she doing while all these financial irregularity was happening in NALSAR. she could take on VC when she was denied taking a class but never had the courage to speak against all this. She could have complained to the academic council (of which she herself is a member) or could have at least written to the Chancellor just the way she did in her case. It would be naive and stupid to assume that Prof Dhanda did not know about this....she has been at helm of affairs and hence if not party to all this she is no less culpable.

How do you know she didn't complain? And 'helm of affairs'? Was she registrar? What are the powers of a member of the AC?
What about you? You were there presumably. What was stopping you from complaining if you think that all bystanders had a moral obligation?

Now is not the time, Jhanda

but my name is Anna!

She is also as political as the pind used to be and as melodramatic and vindictive as they make them

why should anybody else pursue them. y not you yourself? if you are so sure about the interpretation of the judges' report. this is not job of journalists. he has done his job by breaking(sensationalising the news). everyone will forget this blunder after sometime. nobody here is for justice. all of you believe correct/incorrect interpretation of the report and after that gossips!!gossips!! and gossips.. if you believed all that.. and are sure y not file any complaint?... where is the redressal/punishment? gossips!!gossips!! and gossips.. y not the judges themselves recommended any penalty against the beneficiaries of this corruption/blunder if any.. i don't understand what purpose the report will serve.. let's wait and watch.

i still don't agree with you....if majority of newspaper are disrespectful you should not follow them....also i have more concrete reason to disagree....this could hardly be called a "house style point" because all newspapers without exception do this constant flip flop between calling Justice at one part of the article and then by name on the other....hence in the absence of any standard it would not be perhaps a bad idea to address them has Justice.....these Justices have worked quite hard to earn that title and they deserve it...

i know you would still stick to your argument and won't change but felt i should say it.

Thanks

1. i was only replying to the comment made on my post.
2. the larger point i was trying to make was regarding prof dhanda accountability while all irregularities were going on.
3. i don't buy your argument and the reasons for same:
a. Harvard introduced the concept of Socratic method of teaching and till now it is only used to teach 1L i.e. first year law students and only in subjects which rely heavily on case laws. in fact Socratic method was introduced only for tackling and going to the core of reasoning in case laws.
b. never in any part of the world u would find that policy oriented courses (law and poverty) or extension of science or philosophy (jurisprudence) u would find Socratic method
of teaching.
c. u have to read before class and think in any style of teaching, but employing one method so that looks tough and cool would not help.
d. in all law subjects where you have Socratic method of teaching it is accompanied by tutorials and in absence of tutorials in her class the method is highly irrelevant and devoid of logic because the suffers are not so good student.

There is something called knowledge acquire it!

BEST
Anna....:P

Clearly you have spent a lot of time studying the socratic method. Since you have, you probably know that Dhanda's method is not purely socratic. It has much more dialogue than the socratic method. She just does it to check if you have read, which presumably you either (a) don't do or (b) don't do with as much attention to detail as when you are reading about the socratic method.

That is a very authoritative statement you make: "never in any part of the world..."
Presumably, you have been to all the world universities to verify this. However in your quest for comprehensiveness you may have missed a few details. Eg. Many well respected universities employ tutorial systems, class discussion marks etc which are far more rigorous than the socratic method in testing your reasoning and forcing you to defend your point of view.

Her accountability was no greater than yours. You were both present. And neither had any say or information about where the money was going. So what were you doing?

Anna does make sense....de plume
by tutorials i think what is meant is a system where junior faculty members go through the same concept but more elaborately keeping in mind the needs of students who are not as smart as other are
also the comment i believe was from a student i do think professor has more to answer (specially when she said to II year after they protested last year that if anything wrong happens and if you don't protest u become a part to wrong) than a student. As pointed out she was a senior faculty and well connected hence it is wrong to equate her with a student.
she cannot be like sonia gandhi reaping all benefits but with nil accountability....the same reasoning also goes for other senior faulty members they should also answer, what were they smoking when these things were happening in NALSAR

cheers! and say NO TO DHANDA and YES TO VCV for VC....

rofl..."she does it to check whether you have read it or not"....Socrates must be rolling in his graves after reading this....is she a teacher or school head master...i thought you were sensible girl..alas i m worng

wrong

Quoting Anna:

1. i was only replying to the comment made on my post.
2. the larger point i was trying to make was regarding prof dhanda accountability while all irregularities were going on.
3. i don't buy your argument and the reasons for same:
a. Harvard introduced the concept of Socratic method of teaching and till now it is only used to teach 1L i.e. first year law students and only in subjects which rely heavily on case laws. in fact Socratic method was introduced only for tackling and going to the core of reasoning in case laws.
b. never in any part of the world u would find that policy oriented courses (law and poverty) or extension of science or philosophy (jurisprudence) u would find Socratic method
of teaching.
c. u have to read before class and think in any style of teaching, but employing one method so that looks tough and cool would not help.
d. in all law subjects where you have Socratic method of teaching it is accompanied by tutorials and in absence of tutorials in her class the method is highly irrelevant and devoid of logic because the suffers are not so good student.

There is something called knowledge acquire it!

BEST
Anna....:P

First, your basic premise is wrong because Dhanda does not exclusively follow the Socratic method. She lectures, facilitates discussions AND plays devil's advocate. I'd like to emphasize that it is this feature - that is, provoking and inciting critical thinking - rather than calling upon a random student, that primarily characterises the Socratic method. So your understanding of the Socratic method is inadequate, in addition to the incorrectness of your premise.

Second, I agree that NALSAR does not have a system of tutorials. And contrary to your assumption, it is the Oxbridge universities that adopt the method more than the Americans. In any case, if you had difficulty understanding a reading, did you go to her after class seeking help? She can't be expected to gaze into her crystal ball and guess who lost their way in class. Further, the level of teaching cannot be compromised to suit the lowest common denominator. If you fall behind, you need to take the initiative and approach the professor. Not wait for her to come and spoon-feed you.

jhanda ab chup ho ja please

jhanda yaar bas kar ab

excellent point. in fact all NLUs except NLU delhi has been sent an rti by legally india.

It's jus the beginning :P

Quoting Do you get my Point:

Apart from all the jokes around him, VCV is the guy NALSAR needs. He can work with all senior and junior faculty members (including Dhanda) and at the same time knows what is required from a VC of a law school like NALSAR. Most imp. is the fact that at this moment the college needs his proven brand building skills.

the guys got style.. back in the days, he used to coem to college wearing a leather sling bag and a playboy-bunny for a buckle on his belt.

La-Senza?

I know who you are! :P

So???

Hence I know why you make such useless comments. Shameless.

For better knowledge, read report and get a reality check.

Quoting Captain Obvious!:

Kian didn't do shit
The Acad and Exec committees had been told to decide on what action they wanted to take and reveal that in a meeting on the 18th of this month, which is still going to happen, before TOI and LI made all the news public.

SO EXACTLY WHICH DATE WERE THE ACAD & EXEC COMMITTEES TOLD TO DECIDE WHAT ACTION THEY WANTED TO TAKE?

Quoting Captain Obvious!:

Kian didn't do shit
The Acad and Exec committees had been told to decide on what action they wanted to take and reveal that in a meeting on the 18th of this month, which is still going to happen, before TOI and LI made all the news public.
Only the students were supposed to be informed as of the resignation now, but the world knows because of LI's "source"
all that this media drama has done is that this news was available to the public 9 days earlier than it anyway would be. All the work was done by the SBC of NALSAR and the ex-Chancellor.

Yes, you are right in that.. but Kian did report s all which is commendable. Altough we wud like it if he did not report every single insignificant matter. but good job kian

The CJA offer thing has been around for a while with their opening coinciding with Veer Singh's term ending. He's resigned because that came through and who would want to be VC to the shrieking on the ground floor anyway?

agree with you....

Quoting vidyula:

vidyulatha for VC... DOWN WITH JHANDA and DHANDA and her minions

Vidyulatha from NUJS?

Quoting NALSARite:

This is just the beginning change. While this dude's gone(almost), what we need to change is the lackadaisical attitude that remains within so many of us. We need to start caring a little bit more. Luckily, all that, and more has been happening. "The nerds"(yes Kian?) have been woken from their stupor.

And to the people who thought NALSAR was going down: the bird

Yo are right my friend.. We have braved a big challenge. Now its time to fight again. Let us go forth and take the bull by its horns

Yo, LSD anyone?

Go VCV ! U r the man !!

And how would you know what makes a great administrator. Interestingly the only VC really lauded for his achievements (MP Singh) was a great academic. Understanding the place you administrate is very valuable.
That's the thing about alumni kid... older and much much wiser. Watch and learn :)

And PS - if you were around when the alumni were, you would know that the great teacher was a pretty good registrar.

Dear older and much much wiser (but yet youthfully condescending):

Maybe I was around when the alumni were there and when the great teacher was the registrar. And maybe you weren't :) after all, you joined the year after she was removed from registrarship (registrarhood?) and really didnt care who the registrar was then (other than when you needed your weekend leave application sanctioned when you had to go south-west by overnight train, kid)

Go ask the batches before you and you may realise that she wasnt a great administrator. In fact she was totally pro administration and pro their/his misdeeds till she was removed. Mistakes in handling new-found power you say? After which, surprise surprise, she became anti-administration and more focused on academics (which was a very good development for us because she was a good teacher). But of course, you already knew that. So this is really about your agenda isnt it? :)

Unlike you, I havent heard much about MP Singh. But it would be a fallacy to use that to indicate that all good academics are good administrators.

No doubt, understanding the place is important. But that doesnt mean someone with great understanding but incapable of running the place automatically becomes suited for the job. It would be nice if a VC wasnt really an academic and just focused on running the place efficiently. But then again, that may not work from an image perspective for the search committee itself.

Maybe there is not much choice in the legal circles today and one must make do with the best one has, but then lets not harp about her great administration skills. If that be the case, then I hope they have improved from the last time we encountered them.

Once again, I repeat, she is the best teacher at nalsar. The small games played in the background need to stop though. They just leave a bad taste. In any event, anything is going to be better than the outgoing one.

And the Duffie influence still shows.

Your premises are flawed.

The question is not whether she is a perfect administrator, but whether she is the best available. Who would you rather have?

Thank you for bringing sense into the comments trail on this otherwise useless page.

I'm assuming, Mr. Duffie, that you taught law and poverty at NALSAR when it just started?

No Manav. That was Richard Duffee. www.richardduffee.com/

No Manav, I just like that name better than mine! I actually wanted to call myself the scorpion king but kian might have had to write another clarification if I had done that!

Quoting jhandira:

What Rubbish!!!!
Dhanda for VC , Jhanda for Registrar ( Dont worry we will ensure that your feminine aura gets so concentrated within the college that all the men say "your wish is my command".

Can you please not descent to personalities- it doesn't help anyone to hear about our idiotic tiffs on public fora.

Kudos to you Prachi, (and by extension Kian) this has, considering you have little inside information, been decent reporting.

Apologies. Descend. I don't, however, say hairs or wear cloths.

raat ko aiyo hostel main, then we'll see who takes a chill pill...

They kept the cool which when 'other people' almost lit the place up!
Thankfully, they are student represenatives and looked for students welfare rather than faculty politics welfare.

You do not know of the full extent if the involvement of the SBC because the people who have actually worked behind the scenes with the ex chancellor do not want to disclose these things. They ate also politicians of nalsar but thankfully they are sensible. They do not want mindless drama like jhanda.

Quoting SBC ZINDABAD:

You do not know of the full extent if the involvement of the SBC because the people who have actually worked behind the scenes with the ex chancellor do not want to disclose these things. They ate also politicians of nalsar but thankfully they are sensible. They do not want mindless drama like jhanda.

Hear Hear... If we had left college to the mercy of Jhanda, this would not be possible. Thank God we have some sensible people in the SBC who know how to take the right decisions.

And I suppose you are aware of all the inside developments at Nalsar?

There are people in the SBC who single-handedly made this happen. We know of the work done by this person with the ex chancellor. It is indeed refreshing to see such a responsible thought process in the SBC. We have the sense to not disclose certain things on a public forum and we hope that the junior batches understand this.



Quoting Er...:

SBC? What in the world have they done to bring about this resignation? The so-called e-mail which is proudly publicised on the Legally India website wasn't even circulated amongst the students. Further, not a single detail including the minutes was disclosed to the student body. In fact, have they done anything at all to help the present state of affairs being "elected student representatives"? At least the students tried to stir up a storm which nevertheless, failed.

"Ex-Chancellor" as in Mr.Veer Singh? With all due respect Sir / Ma'am, so, the Alumni - 2006 Batch is the only one aware of the "work done by this person with the ex chancellor"?

Veer Singh is the vice chancellor. Chancellor is the CJ of AP High Court.
Please tell me you are not in a law school...

"somefacts" get your facts right man before clarifying I know that Mr. Unni is at Pune Symbiosis, he is teaching IPR there, I have many of my friends at Symbi and he is teaching them Prof. Errabbi also left NALSAR to join a pvt institute in Hyderabad

facultylive.iimcal.ac.in/users/unniv

Thats why its best to check before opening your mouth

Those are the same students who got a panel of judges to write a false report about your functioning as the VC. They are also the ones who got to your computer and sent that email to Dhanda. They must also be the students who took advances in your name. They are obviously not from Chandigarh.

sadly Prof. Veer Singh is paying the price for the abuse of power and corruption during the previous VC. I am sure that Prof. Veer Singh and Prof. Sarma are persons of impeccable honesty. The entire report on financial mismanagement,lack of transparency and profligacy happened during Prof. Ranbir singh's period.

i like kians response to SR

yes the invisible Kashmir link

waiting your reply to anyone's comments, Kian.when others questions you it feels very bad.