Bro, you keeping Gnlu over Nliu just because of this year's placements? Talk about a knee jerk reaction. Nliu comes a great alumni base and similarly well ppaced facilities, if not greater. Nliu has been seeing a lot of positive changes and is striving towards glort since the new VC V Vijaykumar from NLS took over. Wait and watch ;)

No, i'm keeping GNLU over NLIU because of all the previous year's accomplishments as well. They've won the mooting league, they have a semester system and better alumni and faculty. I find NLIU really overrated.

Dude, you're all talk and no substance. Making statements in thin air without any solid backing. Please have a look at NLIU's mooting achievements for the past 2 years, you'll realize.

I fail to gather why the semester system better than trimester. It's just your opinion and does not figure anywhere is ranking colleges.

Ermm, what do you mean by better alumni? Like really, lol?

Just one more addition, NLIU was adjudged semi finalists in the Kings College London-HSF comoetition law moot. Will keep you updated, my man! :)

If that was the criterion still you won't qualify, so chill. Please see comment 11. 1.1.1 and see the mirror bro.

Haha. NALSAR already has 8 vacation schemes for the batch of 2020, including 3 TCs, and as I write this 4 students are doing their vacation schemes. And, dude- your choice of elective is better than your college.

Kindly note those vac schemes were offered in 2018 to 2019 passing out students. prediction and astrology? Hope u r aware abt the procedure, it was well reported in 2018 day zero placement figures, which was for 2019 batch. These students r working hard to make good career and minimum we should support them in their endeavors.

yeah dude my NLUD colleagues (who are 100000% smarter than Harvard, Oxford and Hogwarts graduates) have already secured PPOs under Pandit Bhagwanacharya and Associates.

2017 graduating batch. Student originally joined NUJS, then left for NLUD on health grounds, studied there for four years, then applied to come back to NUJS before Day Zero. Not naming the person here, since Kian would probably censor it anyway. This is just one that I know of personally. There can be other instances too.

The person is pursuing LLM and didn't need a job.

I am grown up enough not to flock comments sections and keep predicting when my university will reach rank one and dazzle the aliens from outer space with their innate brilliance.

@watisup : in terms of what?

Delhi>>>>Kolkata anyday

Hasn't beaten Kolkata yet in terms of placement, or graduate outcome of any sort, other than performance in civil service exams perhaps.

Nobody claimed the monicker apart from you it seems. Touchy much when it comes to conceding that your claims about you super-duper best in everything don't actually pass all tests in reality?

Bong Noojie squad? What made you think I'm a Bong? Is it part of your reptilian brain? Or the one that's been under the influence of a bong for far too long?

Lol. Okay. Noojie squad, then. Exactly why do Noojies keep deriding all the other upcoming law schools (except of course, the two law schools that have always been ranked ahead of them, NLS and NALSAR)? You guys seem very happy to accept their superiority over yours but can’t stand to see a younger law school doing better.

NOTE: I don’t claim NLUD is better then NUJS. Both have their own benefits and drawbacks and are largely of similar quality. I just find it funny that on every NLUD article, the first comments (apart from the useless trolls) are from butt hurt Noojies who can’t stand being left behind in the NIRF rankings.

Where exactly have you seen in this comment, pray tell, that I have claimed NUJS is better than NLUD in every aspect? That is entirely the product of your fertile imagination. On the contrary, NLUD people keep claiming their superiority in every sphere, whereas the truth is that their graduate outcome has never surpassed that of NLSIU, NALSAR or NUJS ever since they have started. I frankly don't care about NIRF rankings, so your assertions about that are also completely void. If anything, NLUD cares enough to have submitted false data in one year, as revealed subsequently. Even here, someone restarted with proclaiming NLUD's superiority over NUJS in rather juvenile forms. I personally don't care about rankings at all. Just enough to set the record straight about false claims made. For a long time, there was also another falsehood that was being perpetuated of NLUD employing the highest number of NLU alumni as faculty of all NLUs. That was also false, as substantiated later. As you said, people don't have that sort of problem with NLSIU etc. simply because the latter doesn't make false claims or have exaggerated notions about their superiority. I challenge you to show any article about NLUD where in the comments, some such claim or disparaging comments about other NLUs or self proclaimed superiority hasn't been trumpeted. Frankly, what you feel about either university or their students doesn't really matter at all. Because you, just like every anon commentator here, is a nobody. So long as you argue/claim on facts, I would never have any objection to your statements either. Even in these few comments, several of the statements and assumptions that you've made have already had their veracity or accuracy questioned. Maybe you should take care of those first. Do the homework and then argue. Incidentally, someone was also claiming how NLUD faculty's publication record was so stellar that it eclipsed all other NLUs. Again, that's not a fact. They received the lowest score in quality of publications compared to NLSIU, NALSAR and NUJS in last year's NIRF. So, any false claim made would always meet with fact check. If you have a problem with it, then deal with it. If someone for instance claims that NLUD has been conducting AILET in a more efficient manner than all other NLUs are doing CLAT, that's a perfectly valid claim. If they say that they have very good infra and gov support and several (but not all) good faculty, again, that's perfectly valid. Nobody would contest those. Even the facts that their students do very well in civil services and Judiciary exams, their faculty publish more in number than all other NLUs are all good ones. So long as people from NLUD restrict their claims to those with supporting facts, I doubt anyone would have any issue with it. I certainly won't. But that rarely happens.

Look, if you’re going to take to heart every comment by some (self-proclaimed) NLUD troll and attribute that as the general attitude of NLUD students and agonise over it, then that’s your issue. A lot of NLUD students have admitted that the number of NLU faculty actually teaching at the law school is much less. And you can find those comments in this thread right here. The same applies for the fact that the number of publications is more and not the quality.

Second, if you’re seriously talking about fudging data, then I recall that even NALSAR claimed their average salary was some 18 odd lakhs per annum. Clearly, that was over the top and all the law schools seem to have a tendency to round off their figures on the higher side. And besides, the figures for corrected and updated for last year’s rankings when they were published. And I am not saying these rankings are accurate or perfect.

And lastly, I don’t understand why you keep barking back to the fact of Graduate Outcomes. It is obviously important but NLUD is literally 20 years behind NLS and 10 behind the other two. How could you expect GO to be on the same level (especially since it doesn’t only take into account corporate firm placements)? I doubt any serious NLUD student would claim it’s better than the older colleges. What I don’t understand is the biased manner in which you guys comment to sling crap at another law school on any metric whatsoever. This includes the kind of nasty generalisations done by some of the older NLU kids when Jindal got ranked higher in the QS (I don’t have any opinion on whether it deserves it or not, btw). NUJS is obviously a good college, so it’s surprising to see how insecure some of you get when its quality is called into question by some ignorant provocative troll.

And yet Delhi has not even entered one IPL Semi-Final. Stop Lying.

@watisup: Didn't you know? NLUD people have been claiming to have done that since 2011, even before their first batch graduated. These days they claim to have bested Harvard and Stanford. Next peak to scale, Jio University.

Haan, toh thank your stars that you had Ranbir Singh.

Does NLUD provide upsc coaching? Because otherwise, that's not really a benchmark for comparison. Any university based in Delhi would enjoy the same proximity to the best coaching centres. Why are you people so obsessed with being called rank one? After some time, the persistence really gets rank and smelly (pun intended).

V C is important but look at the quality of students (top 100 law aspirants r joining nlud) and faculty. In spite of some odd nujs is doing well , minimum perception outside is not dented. As far as performance in upsc is concerned. There is small group connected together in their preparation. Regular coaching is not required. All law universities students must show here some kind of compassion to the achievement of their fraternity (other law universities) instead of spreading negativity, sprouted out of brutal competitive world.

I'm sorry, who told you that at NLUD, students have group sessions for upsc training? That's simply not accurate, the exam is too competitive for aspirants to actually study that way.

I had experienced the depth of the exam,may be it is too big for many. The connected group here means, sharing input abt only what to read, from which sources. Yes success is individual based but we know a group of relatives, precisely the Shrivastava bro Raman and vikram, who were chief of BSF and CRPF having 37 relative members in this civil service. 4 sons of some Mishra from western up also cleared this exam in 2 yrs. My point is by forming group and enrolling for different coaching centres will surely help. Moreover my information is based from those who r preparing for it.

You are mixing points up. Sure, it would be good for students to form study groups for upsc. But I'm from NLUD and I'm telling you that it's not the way things work here. People are too CT in their own way. Of course, proximity to reputed coaching centres in Delhi helps. But that helps every law student studying in Delhi. I'm sure the DU guys actually have it better than us because they don't have that much attendance hassle and can spend more time prepping for the exam.

@Observer: The problem is not with the achievements of NLUD students. The problem is how after every such achievement, they or other NLUD trolls keep harping here about how their place has become number one and better than the others, using false data (see below about their teacher names or false NIRF info etc.) If education is supposed to bring humility, then I'm sorry to say these trolls, assuming they are NLUD students, have failed to be educated by their so-called star faculty. If you actually know them personally as you seem to be saying, tell them that shouting about being numero uno doesn't make one that or even make one look good. It's crass.

Really interesting to know, any nlud grade here? It can be assumed that Steel authority and oyo may be at per, this is case when u don't get top job, as perceived, you are tend to join all sort of psu to start your career.

I mean only in term of pay and perks. PSU pay structure is such that, they r not going to offer 14 - 15 straightway. Star India, ICICI, wipro offering better. Big 6-7 law firms will remain the first choice. Kindly enlighten me if anyone preferring PSU or any PSU offering better.

REC is offering around 15-16 for a PSU job

NLUD only has 2 NLU LLB alumni teaching there at present, as opposed to NALSAR's 4, NLSIU's 3 and NUJS' 8.

Nonsense! NLUD has 7, while no other NLU has more than 2 or 3.

@22.1.1: Please don't lie. I dare you to name all 7 NLU LLB Alumni teaching at NLUD at present. The names of all 8 at NUJS and the others at NALSAR and NLSIU have already been mentioned in comments to other threads before. They are matters of public record.

Yet another NLUD troll at 22.1.1. Dude, you don't even know who all are currently teaching at your own university? Can you name these 7 that you speak of? I hope you aren't including the names of the likes of Mrinal Satish, Chinmayi Arun etc. who are no longer teaching there at present. The website hasn't been updated to reflect all that, but an insider ought to know! Or are you including LLM alumni by any chance? As for your laughable comment about other NLUs not having more than 2-3, get your head out of the sand and try looking at the world outside for a change instead of trolling here. Search LI comments in other posts to get those names, why don't you, before making such tall claims? I just checked for the NUJS names for example from that post and these are the 8: S. Sen, S. Bhattacharya, S. Guha, A. Tarafder, M. Menon, K. Ray, P. Dasgupta, R. Ghosh. Go ahead, name your 7.

Name the 7. It's only 2 - Aparna and Anup ([...], if the strong rumours doing the rounds on campus are to be believed). The NLUD website lists 5, but if you are from NLUD you will know Mrinal is now at DJA, Chinmayi is at harvard (and even when she was here she stopped teaching a long time ago), and Ankita Sangwan doesn't teach. What make believe world are you living in?

Now that one of the trolls has been proven to be a liar, another one raises its head. Why don't you list all the NLUD faculty publications and prove your point by comparing them with all the publications of all other NLUs? NIRF data is laughable, don't quote that, everyone knows they don't actually verify it's truth. And if you don't have the actual data, then quit coming up with these make-believe lists. Also, what good is faculty publications for students if they don't/can't teach? The reason why NLUD graduate quality is not better than those of NLSIU, NALSAR, or NUJS is that your star faculty are busy publishing and researching and not in teaching. Make that clear to students thinking of joining there and don't mislead them.

Dude, you won't know this but NALSAR has recently recruited 4-5 faculties all NLU grads. After this they have the best faculty. Infact, there are only two law schools- NLSIU and NALSAR.

Kudos for judging the moral bandwidth of an entire college by declaring them far from decent humans.

Friend, this information is not given on the official website/brochure or student body website. I am not denying your information but an official clarification is necessary with other information as well (e.g. publications, experience etc). An NLU-wise faculty comparison is welcome and will benefit law aspirants and the public, but should we not get an authorisation from the administration or student body first?

I'd rather have a law school's official website not list people teaching there than one listing people who are no longer teaching there. Case in point, comment number 24.

If they are still listed on university website means they are on deputation.

Deputation, lien, whatever you call it (though the two are different). The point is they are not teaching there now and there is no guarantee that they would be coming back. And people aren't sent abroad on deputation to study. Deputation only works for government department related temporary services and similar like Mrinal's scene.

1. Mrinal Satish (NLSIU BALLB) - No longer teaching at NLUD. Now at DJA.
2. Aparna Chandra (NLSIU BALLB) - presently teaching, but not listed as teaching any course next sem - apparently she is leaving :(
3. Anup Surendranath (NLSIU BALLB) - NALSAR alum not NLS, but presently teaching.
4. Chinmayi Arun (NALSAR BALLB)- left. Presently at harvard.
5. Sophy KJ (NALSAR BALLB) - not a NALSAR llb alum.
6 .Ankita Sangwan (NALSAR BALLB) - is a Research associate, does not teach.

So yes, 2.

and I thought I was the only one who didn't want to work today.

A small correction. Vivek Mukherjee did his LL.M. from NLSIU and not NALSAR. Apologies for that mistake in my earlier comment.

So apparently of all these four NLUs, NLUD actually has the least number of NLU LLB alumni currently teaching there, as opposed to the most as claimed by some. What irony!

Your last sentence is just as fallacious in terms of its conclusion as the one you refer to, given you have little clue about these 'random NLU people' or how they teach.

Maybe, if I were to not have friends at such places tell me stuff.

Unfortunately I do.

Unless your friends include anyone who has been taught by the faculty of more than one NLU, the comparison can scarcely be an objective one. And I have actually been taught by some from at least 3 NLUs mentioned above, as well as knowing several of these faculty members personally. For example, of the five people you mentioned at NLUD, I know four. They are good. There are similarly good teachers at the other NLUs too. Having said that, the hallmark of a good teacher will always be the students who graduate from these places. Until the NLUD grads start showing a marked difference in quality compared to those from other NLUs, all this claim of their teachers being the best ones in the business is just hot air, nothing more.

Exactly how did you arrive at that conclusion from the data? NUJS has as many NLU LLB alumni teaching there as NLSIU, which is 8, while NALSAR has 6 and NLUD has 2. The ranking if any therefore stands at:
1. NLSIU and NUJS
2. NALSAR
3. NLUD.
If you include NLU LLM alumni too, then NUJS would actually rank foremost, with the 8 increasing to 13. And percentage of total teaching strength-wise, NUJS is ahead of all the other three too. Get your calculations straight.

Get your counting skills in order. NUJS has 8 NLU LLB alumni teaching there at present, just like NLSIU. NALSAR has 6. NLUD has 2. In your haste to draw up useless ranking lists, you are making rookie mistakes like the CLAT organisers.

These coaching centres, self-styled CLAT mentors and experts are all useless opportunists making money out of other's insecurity. CLAT was never meant to be an exam that would require mugging up, rote learning throughout the years and solving all possible variations of a question to be on the safe side. It was meant to test for aptitude. Apart from the 2011 paper, I've never seen it even try to do that. That paper had also attracted controversies, but not for quality of questions and most law school long-timers believe that batch to be the best of the lot in the last decade. These days, it's about suggestions and where questions are taken from and inane stuff like that, which attracts the wrong crowd for the most part.

Cat, iit, neet, it is everywhere,. Students are joining them, because they are being benefitted. Legal edge and clap prep, lst and clat possible are guiding them. It will remain. However personally I believe that this exam can be cleared with proper mentering.

I strongly advise NLUD ahead of NALSAR. I am an experienced NLU graduate (not from either NALSAR or NLUD), so I have no vested interest. The reasons I advise NLUD are:

- Better faculty
- Better location
- Good placements this year, will keep improving
- Being in Delhi allows you to prepare better for UPSC and judicial service
- Student exchange programmes
- Lots of conferences with high profile speakers

Experienced NLU graduate doing what? How is your experience relevant when you aren't actually connected or haven't ever been connected to either law school? Finally, who is to say you are even a graduate? Apart from your 2nd and 4th points, all your other ones require evidence and comparative knowledge of the two places. If you can't provide that, then your opinion is like an a**hole, everybody's got one.

Thank you 34.1, 34.2, 34.3 for your suggestions! Thanks for responding.
I plan to go into academia/corporate. NALSAR should be good.

Legally India isn't an official government mouthpiece. I doubt Kian consults Modiji or Javedkar either before publishing a piece. What are you doing here then? Go and comment on PTI pieces instead. There's no debate about NUJS v. NLUD. All national law schools are so far behind the global benchmark that playing king of the hill between themselves is only done by jobless people like you. It has no other purpose.

All NLUs are not behind. NLSIU made it to QS this year, while NALSAR and NLUD are expected to make it next year, as they will submit their list of employers and foreign university partners to QS (which will then approach them for anonymous ratings).

You conflate rankings with quality. That's your prerogative. I do not. Anybody who's actually received proper education in any of the Indian NLUs and then been to any foreign university subsequently would be aware of our limitations. As for your make believe expectations, keep them to yourself till they actually become reality.

Oh, grow up. No one here cares about the world. They only give a damn about their NLU.

Top comment #36. These idiot students don't realise that they will not get jobs unless all NLUs unite and lobby with the law minister to create jobs. Instead they are fighting with each other.