SAM v CAMSAM v CAM

Khaitan & Co associate partners Iqbal Khan in Mumbai and Harsh Kumar in Delhi have been poached by Amarchand Mangaldas co-managing partners Shardul and Cyril Shroff respectively, who are setting up offices in each others’ territories.

It is understood that both have announced their upcoming departures within Khaitan and are likely to join the brothers’ offices when operational.

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Khan is due to join the Mumbai office planned to be set up by Shardul Shroff.

He was promoted to associate partner level in Mumbai in November of last year and specialises in private equity work.

Khan graduated from the London School of Economics (LSE) in 2006 with an LLB, completed his JD at Columbia in New York in 2008, and then joined Paul Weiss Rifkind Wharton & Garrison as an attorney. Before joining Khaitan in 2013 as a principal associate, he was an associate at Kirkland & Ellis in New York for nearly three years.

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Kumar is set to join Cyril Shroff’s new Delhi office.

Harsh Kumar was promoted to associate partner level in Delhi in April 2014 and specialises in corporate.

He began his career at Amarchand Delhi in 2005 after graduating from NUJS Kolkata, followed by stints at Herbert Smith in London, AZB & Partners and Khaitan & Co in 2009.

Khaitan Partner Rabindra Jhunjhunwala was not reachable for comment at the time of going to press.

Shardul did not respond to emails seeking comment, Cyril Shroff declined to comment.

We have reached out to Khan and Kumar for comment.

Cyril’s ranks in Delhi are likely to include Raghuram Raju, a former Dua Associates partner and ex-general counsel of Religare and other companies; Luthra & Luthra partner Piyush Mishra; Khaitan & Co Delhi partner Gauri Rasgotra; and Economic Laws Practice (ELP) partner Kirat Singh Nagra.

Legally India reported earlier this week that Shardul Shroff would hire Dudhat Pereira & Associates founder and former Udwadia Udeshi partner Radhika Pereira in Mumbai.

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Like +11 Object -6 me first 09 Apr 15, 22:08  interesting  controversial
Congratulations to mr. Kumar and mr. Khan
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Like +16 Object -6 Bhole ki fauj 09 Apr 15, 22:09  interesting  controversial
Heartiest congratulations to both Mr. Khan and Mr. Kumar. Good catch.
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Like +3 Object -5 Guest 09 Apr 15, 22:09
So all set go
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Like +39 Object -12 Anon 09 Apr 15, 22:24  interesting  top rated  controversial
Great catch cam,

Harsh is one of the stars at kco in delhi . First batch NUJS. Class topper . Solid reputation

Congrats
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Like +16 Object -6 Guest 10 Apr 15, 12:18  interesting  controversial
Quoting Anon:
Great catch cam,

Harsh is one of the stars at kco in delhi . First batch NUJS. Class topper . Solid reputation

Congrats


Class topper? Maybe you wanna check again ? That was Nemika Jha
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Like +17 Object -5 Batchmate 10 Apr 15, 13:45  interesting  top rated  controversial
Harsh was not the topper - but very close to the top - so its ok.
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Like +5 Object -21 sss 10 Apr 15, 14:29  controversial
Maybe..but not in the top 10.
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Like +3 Object -22 Guest 10 Apr 15, 19:41
Quoting Batchmate:
Harsh was not the topper - but very close to the top - so its ok.


He was 1st .... not
2nd ..... not
3rd ..... not
4th ..... not
5th .... not

but hey, everyone upto rank 100 is a topper. So yea by that logic he's a topper
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Like +9 Object -2 Altaaf Raja 11 Apr 15, 12:18  interesting
Quoting Guest:
Quoting Batchmate:
Harsh was not the topper - but very close to the top - so its ok.


He was 1st .... not
2nd ..... not
3rd ..... not
4th ..... not
5th .... not

but hey, everyone upto rank 100 is a topper. So yea by that logic he's a topper


Come here, take an award for the most lame comment ever.
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Like +5 Object -0 Jiggles 11 Apr 15, 09:32  interesting
^Who is in Jindal now *mwahahaha*
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Like +48 Object -10 Observer 09 Apr 15, 22:26  interesting  top rated  controversial
So the hunters have become the hunted

No wonder Khaitan promoted en masse last week

All the good ones will leave. The mediocre will remain.

Sam and cam are having fun
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Like +12 Object -16 scoopwhoop 10 Apr 15, 07:24  controversial
And no one approached you eh!! Hah hah!

Guys like you are really the scourge of the profession, revelling in others plight,doesn't matter if it's SAM, CAM or KCO, others plight is your fun!
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Like +16 Object -3 Soothsayer 09 Apr 15, 22:29  interesting  top rated
Very interesting. A sign of things to come.
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Like +12 Object -4 babu bhaiya 09 Apr 15, 22:31  interesting
Congrats Harsh bhaiya.. Badiya hain!!
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Like +20 Object -4 Ex Khaitan 09 Apr 15, 22:42  interesting  top rated
Many congratulations Harsh. You will do well wherever you go. Goodluck!
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Like +13 Object -2 Plea 09 Apr 15, 22:45  interesting
Dear CAM, Please increase payscales of existing associates at par (or at least close) to that of other Big 6 firms before poaching KCO laterals. Thanks.

Kian, Am I first comment? (big hopeful eyes) :)
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Like +4 Object -0 kianganz 09 Apr 15, 22:49
Sorry, 9th :((
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Like +2 Object -0 Like 10 Apr 15, 16:24
Kian, you may consider adding a like button to comments section!
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Like +0 Object -0 kianganz 10 Apr 15, 16:25
Like a Facebook like button?
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Like +2 Object -1 LiterallyBlunt 10 Apr 15, 18:06
Yeah. That would be epic. Like really epic. Like get what I mean? Like...
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Like +0 Object -0 kianganz 10 Apr 15, 18:06
No, 'fraid not :p
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Like +12 Object -72 LI reader 09 Apr 15, 22:49  troll?  controversial
Does loyalty mean nothing to these Khaitan partners? Chopping the very hand that fed them for years.
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Like +62 Object -2 Ramji Londonwale 09 Apr 15, 23:14  interesting  top rated
Loyalty chaiye toh Tata docomo ka connection lo....
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Like +70 Object -9 Thali ka baigan 09 Apr 15, 23:18  interesting  top rated  controversial
What's common between KCO and Saina Nehwal???...both couldn't sustain their no.1 rank beyond a week...hehehehe
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Like +47 Object -5 Thali ka tamatar 09 Apr 15, 23:55  interesting  top rated  controversial
What's common between KCO and Misbah-ul-haq??? ...century remained elusive to both...LOL
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Like +14 Object -2 Autowala Advocate 10 Apr 15, 04:11  interesting  top rated
"Haansh mat pagli, pyaar ho jayega"
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Like +4 Object -3 guest 11 Apr 15, 00:37
Idiot - saina is a great player and has done more service to the country than you will every do in your life time. Show some respect and Stop wasting time. Partners will come and go, but the institution will go on.
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Like +4 Object -0 Weather-man 13 Apr 15, 13:45
Uncle, chill. Senti nako hona jee!!!
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Like +5 Object -9 IPL 10 Apr 15, 11:01  controversial
Hope these lawyers who are bouncing to other firms don't make 1 run in 13 balls like our great Virat Kohli !!
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Like +23 Object -1 IPL2 10 Apr 15, 12:51  interesting  top rated
Even if they do, they will still remain Virat Kohli and will have Anushka by their side..Way to go guys. All the best!
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Like +35 Object -5 Jai ramji ki 09 Apr 15, 23:28  interesting  top rated  controversial
From 100 partners to less than 100 in a week!!!
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Like +6 Object -7 My name is Khan 09 Apr 15, 23:53  controversial
Who is this Shah Rukh Khan?
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Like +2 Object -2 Inside scooper 10 Apr 15, 00:52
Are they joining at the same level or as partners. Kian??
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Like +0 Object -1 Question 10 Apr 15, 14:46
But what's the difference?
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Like +16 Object -3 Client 10 Apr 15, 03:32  interesting  top rated
Having previously worked with Harsh, I can say with utmost confidence that he will be an asset to whichever place he goes. Best of luck Harsh. Will miss working with you!
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Like +8 Object -4 Weather-man 10 Apr 15, 05:42
So, it has now started to emerge that KCO is taking the biggest hit...more to follow...!!!
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Like +1 Object -0 Whats the No. now? 10 Apr 15, 06:14
So whats the partner count in Khaitan now? 98?
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Like +12 Object -4 5 years 10 Apr 15, 06:38  interesting
Khan started working in 2008 and got made associate partner in Khaitan in 2013 - in 5 years !! Is that how Khaitan got to Khai-ton ?!!
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Like +5 Object -4 6-7 Years. 10 Apr 15, 11:26
Are you blind?
He qualified in 2006 and joined KCO in 2013 as a Principal Associate. He became an Associate Partner only last year. Also, look at the places he's worked at, previously. Reason enough for him to have his no. of years cut short by 1-2 years, before being designated as an Associate Partner. If he stayed, he'd have become a Partner only after about 8 years PQE, which is normal for a bright guy.
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Like +9 Object -4 Guest 10 Apr 15, 12:20  interesting
Quoting 6-7 Years.:
Are you blind?
He qualified in 2006 and joined KCO in 2013 as a Principal Associate. He became an Associate Partner only last year. Also, look at the places he's worked at, previously. Reason enough for him to have his no. of years cut short by 1-2 years, before being designated as an Associate Partner. If he stayed, he'd have become a Partner only after about 8 years PQE, which is normal for a bright guy.


He qualified in 2006 but did not start work till 2008. So it is barely 6 years to "Associate" Partner [...]
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Like +3 Object -4 CAM 10 Apr 15, 12:58
And now Partner at SAM...quality control not an issue here?? Anyways, IQ is a damn good lawyer and deserved his promotion at both places.
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Like +2 Object -1 Blind? 10 Apr 15, 11:30
He became Associate Partner only in November, last year.
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Like +4 Object -2 WG 10 Apr 15, 09:26
Where we can apply to join CAM or SAM ? Please help, I don't need to say more apart from my name. :'(
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Like +0 Object -0 Lol...WG 10 Apr 15, 22:32
Don't you see he is starving and paying just for internet to find any job. Get him the id Kian xD
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Like +13 Object -4 Insider Guru!!!!!! 10 Apr 15, 09:26  interesting
Harsh will be asset wherever he may go. congrates Harsh......
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Like +12 Object -8 Guest 10 Apr 15, 10:12  controversial
are you from Delhi, "Congrates"!!!
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Like +17 Object -0 WHY???? 10 Apr 15, 10:10  interesting  top rated
Kian! Shardul's face is clearly 2 mm below Cyril's in the mashup and it's driving me up the wall! Please correct this as soon as possible!
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Like +4 Object -0 purr 10 Apr 15, 12:34
Damn you. Now that's all I can see!!!
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Like +10 Object -1 kianganz 10 Apr 15, 12:37  interesting
Actually you can breathe easy - that's completely intentional. I tried various options and this was the least crazy :)

If you look carefully, their foreheads, mouth, etc line up exactly.

Shardul just has a beard which throws off the symmetry...
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Like +0 Object -0 purr 10 Apr 15, 12:50
Photo shop kian..photos hop. .. Phootoshop
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Like +0 Object -1 Gulabjamum 10 Apr 15, 15:24
OR was it a metaphor for the size of their warchest?
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Like +3 Object -2 Duhh 10 Apr 15, 10:58
Kian, very interesting...the hunter (SAM & CAM), the hunted (Iqbal and Harsh) and prey (KCO) have all not confirmed this news. Hopefully, for you, this doesn't turn out to be incorrect..
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Like +4 Object -1 At the very least!! 10 Apr 15, 11:01
SAM and CAM put together seem to have taken about 4 partners from KCO in this mad rush, I'd be damn disappointed if they hadn't managed to get even 4 out of the 100-odd KCO have.

Fate accompli anyone?
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Like +13 Object -3 satyam 10 Apr 15, 15:23  interesting
Quoting At the very least!!:
SAM and CAM put together seem to have taken about 4 partners from KCO in this mad rush, I'd be damn disappointed if they hadn't managed to get even 4 out of the 100-odd KCO have.

Fate accompli anyone?


4 good quality hires are 100 times better than 20 bad hires...out of 100 partners at least 40% are inflated designations.
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Like +3 Object -1 scoopwhoop 10 Apr 15, 18:47
Isn't that the case in all firms?
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Like +19 Object -2 Guest Anon 10 Apr 15, 11:09  interesting  top rated
KCO's loss is CAM's gain.... Congrats Harsh!
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Like +9 Object -2 hubba 10 Apr 15, 12:50  interesting
KCO Delhi has been feeling the pinch of SAM and CAM overtures for a long time. Mumbai also, especially in light of D.Roy quitting.

Aur bhi khela baki hai. Dekhi sab maja.
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Like +4 Object -2 CAMeraman 10 Apr 15, 12:58
Can Kian please change the horrible-looking half-n-half picture of cyril and shardul. It looks like special effects more ghastly than ramgopal varmas last few movies have been used to create this half-n-half portrait. Thank you in anticipation.
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Like +0 Object -1 curious 10 Apr 15, 13:33
What are their packages? How much do partner make at KCO?
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Like +2 Object -0 Dhing Chack 10 Apr 15, 17:38
are you asking about working partners or sleeping ones?
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Like +0 Object -0 curious 10 Apr 15, 21:46
Both
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Like +0 Object -1 curious 10 Apr 15, 13:34
What the salary range at CAM?
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Like +3 Object -0 Mojo 10 Apr 15, 14:11
Kian, are both of them being taken as Partners in the respective AMs? Partnership at AM (at least, once upon a time) used to come by only after a lot of internal assessments and scrutiny. Just wondering.
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Like +36 Object -6 satyam 10 Apr 15, 15:19  interesting  top rated  controversial
The promotions at Khaitan has diluted the respect for Partners, the infrastructure team has 5 or 6 partners and 2 associates at junior level!!!! The capital market team pays more in annual salary then last two years revenue!! Where do they get money from?
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Like +5 Object -7 Here Comes The Money. 11 Apr 15, 11:16  controversial
There is this new Sorcery which has been intrinsic to a mountain tribe residing on the outer boundaries of a small province in an East European country. I rather not discuss full details. However, the word is that this sorcery is called client billings. They say that the bigger and more versatile your client base and bigger deals the law firms close, the more likely they are to generate revenue.

Rumour says that KCO has somehow gotten their hand on this virgin sorcery. That could be the answer to where the money is coming from. The offices are also expanding. Some sorcery this. Sheesh.
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 13 Apr 15, 00:08
Quoting Here Comes The Money.:

Rumour says that KCO has somehow gotten their hand on this virgin sorcery.


Looks like less virgins and more sorcery. Dunno which is better
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Like +12 Object -0 vakil 10 Apr 15, 15:39  interesting  top rated
khaitan should know money not every thing and stupid to give such bonus to guys with hardly 10 years and partners there are also to be blamed but for Haigreve most of the guys in delhi treat it like sarkari co
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Like +4 Object -1 amss.com 10 Apr 15, 15:40
Any news about next years promotions? Are the rumours true that no further promotions to partner for a period of 2 years until consolidation phase is over?
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Like +24 Object -4 Watching from Bombay 10 Apr 15, 16:41  interesting  top rated
Khaitan ke pankhe.....kat rahe hai
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Like +9 Object -8 guest 10 Apr 15, 19:28  controversial
This exodus from Kco is a good thing. Grown indiscriminately off late. Need to get lean. Focus on quality not quantity. Frankly the firm will not hurt at all with some of the reported departures.
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Like +12 Object -2 arrogance 10 Apr 15, 20:08  interesting
This is the arrogance which can lead to fall of an empire. Khaitan needs to introspect.
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Like +2 Object -1 hunter 10 Apr 15, 22:01
Any idea on the packages?
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Like +5 Object -3 CAMPUS thinker 10 Apr 15, 22:11
Hey looks like CAM, SAM and KCO are hiring truck loads in law schools and loads of money is being thrown at, hope they realize that such strategy only works in short term ...look at B Schools, money no longer interests many of these B sxhool grads...eventually the matrix and lockstep model will have spiral effect leading to escalation of salary costs and dip in profits, so bonuses will be curtailed. Dont you HR guys out there agree? What's the attrition rate of fresh graduates in such tier 1 firms? Heard its close to 50%!!!
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Like +1 Object -2 AP 11 Apr 15, 00:24
Are they joining as Partners or Associate Partners?
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Like +1 Object -0 Filmi 13 Apr 15, 17:22
There was never a concept called Partners in Amarchand. Guess they will learn and say that in the next few years.
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Like +5 Object -0 Guest 13 Apr 15, 18:54  interesting
Wish Iqbal Khan the very best for his new stint. Great guy and very hard working. Good counsel to have by your side.
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