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Amity Noida grads start up possibly youngest LLP ever with unusual name

Karan Bindra: Senior partnerKaran Bindra: Senior partner Three young lawyers have started up a Delhi litigation boutique called KIAA LLP (Knowledge Information Acess Advocates), one-and-a-half years after its founding partner obtained an undergraduate law degree from the law school of Amity University Noida with two other partners who graduated half a year ago.

“We are striving to make it as one of the top tier law firm in India which is totally dedicated towards their clients,” said Karan Bindra, founder and senior partner, who graduated in 2010.

Co-founding partners are Kumar Ankur and Chayan Sarkar, who graduated last August.

Bindra had assisted advocate Himanshu Bajaj and Delhi-based IP law firm Intel Advocates, while Kumar and Sarkar had worked on lower court matters with advocate Pragyan Pradeesh Sharma and advocate Vijay Agarwal respectively since graduation.

The three have now rented basement space in Delhi’s Jangpura area and fitted it out with a law library and Manupatra among other things, and set up Knowledge Information Acess Advocates (KIAA) in December 2011.

“We wanted to have our own office. The firm was actually a dream for us,” said Sarkar, adding that he is the fifth generation of lawyers in his family. “We thought of it one day over a cup of coffee. That’s how KIAA came into existence. Initially we had never thought of this.”

Bindra added that apart from seeking parental assistance he invested all of his savings toward this venture.

A firm by any other name

In naming their law firm, the partners said that they wanted to be innovative yet conform to legal undertones. “So we have the knowledge, the information and the resources to assess,” said Bindra. “This was the main idea behind KIAA.”

Kumar clarified that the word “Acess” was not a spelling mistake but derived inspiration from a German company’s identical name.

The international image was also vital when deciding the structure, Bindra noted. “It is an LLP [limited liability partnership] company so we may get work through foreign routes. It gives you an advantage in terms of clients abroad.”

The LLP is not yet registered on the MCA website against the name Knowledge Information Acess Advocates LLP or KIAA LLP at the time of going to press, but Sarkar said that the process was ongoing.

Start-up diet

Bindra said that KIAA’s present clients consisted of three Gurgaon-based companies and a Singaporean company by the name of BIRD.

Sarkar added that the firm was also hopefully starting work with GMR. “We will be handling only two aspects – the contract of the labour and the part about building regulations,” he said, but added: “Nothing is concrete yet.”

Sarkar had been primarily dealing with lower court matters before setting up KIAA but said that labour law was good for building relationships. “If you look into the bigger picture it [labour law] gives you a lot of exposure. It allows you to have a good contact with trial courts as well as the corporate world.”

Sarkar added: “What we really dream of is having a pan-India kind of organisation - using your contacts and expanding in other parts of the country. Karan has a very good network in European countries and Singapore, so [this] will help [in] going that side. Litigation is my genre, so far as expansion is concerned.”

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Like +1 Object -1 Pramod Saigal 10 Feb 12, 17:11
Best of luck.
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Like +4 Object -1 totally convinced 10 Feb 12, 17:19
today is not 1 April - or is it?!?
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Like +1 Object -1 Aadvit Thakur 10 Feb 12, 17:20
Best of luck guys!
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Like +2 Object -2 Dhar _ M 10 Feb 12, 17:28
founder and 'senior' partner. hehe
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Like +1 Object -0 now iv seen it all 10 Feb 12, 18:26
Jai ho to the entrepreneural spirit
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Like +3 Object -0 anon 10 Feb 12, 18:28
“It is an LLP [limited liability partnership] company so we may get work through foreign routes. It gives you an advantage in terms of clients abroad - what is an LLP company??
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 10 Feb 12, 19:35
Amusing ! Hehe
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Like +3 Object -0 Anon 10 Feb 12, 19:36
Is this a some kind of joke or legallyindia has run out of stories? there are so many law firms being incorporated everyday in Delhi or Mumbai - not everyone needs to be reported..
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Like +0 Object -0 Anon 10 Feb 12, 19:49
@6 - I think they forgot the difference between company and partnership...its a shame if these stories are being reported...
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Like +0 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 11 Feb 12, 01:35
A lawyer always must be a good reader otherwise he will surely fail. Mr. Anonymous, unfortunately you are not one, cz almost a 10 times its been mentioned that its a "FIRM" and only one typographical error has referred it to as a company. anyway try and read it again and thanks for your parochial thoughts.
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Like +0 Object -0 advocate-diwakar 10 Feb 12, 19:50
hats off to their entrepreneurial skills...best of luck..
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Like +0 Object -0 annonymus 12 Feb 12, 00:21
thanks
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Like +1 Object -0 Gunbir Singh 10 Feb 12, 20:16
Thats quite impressive for a young lad!
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Like +1 Object -0 P 10 Feb 12, 21:23
Nice to see kids from ALSN finally doing something worth mention. Good job !
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Like +2 Object -0 Karan Bindra 10 Feb 12, 22:17
Thanks a lot everyone for your valuable comments and criticism. However these comments really encourages us to work even more harder and achieve our respected goals. We know for many people it might be too early to open a law firm but we have full confidence in our self that we will be able to serve everyone with full justice. We are not doing only any business over here but we are also doing something for our society in our own manner.
As this field is very vast like an ocean and until and unless you wont work on your own and make mistakes till time you wont be able to learn proper tactics of this field. So I have my own vision on this aspect and I decided to open a law boutique in New Delhi and decided to have an LLP firm So this will give a good impact on foreign law firm who want to outsource work in India as LLP has limited liability for their partners and it is more secured company as compared to normal partnership or sole proprietorship firm. So this is what main idea behind KIAA. Once again thanks a lot for your good wishes and we promise to work even more harder to stand up to your expectations
Regards
Karan Bindra
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Like +0 Object -0 Vijeta 10 Feb 12, 22:42
All the very best...
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Like +0 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 10 Feb 12, 22:42
Every individual in his life starts any venture with a dream. But often the dream vanishes if there is no focus, Mr. Anonymous thank you for your critical evaluation of the article I think that will surely help us to stay even more focused as pessimism is not the genre where we fall into but its optimism and its quite natural to get some criticism from pessimistic people too. Its something like they keep the fire burning(such comments). But somehow even the world has seen how unique and bold steps takes a person to heights. We fortunately for many and unfortunately for some are striving for such a goal. Anyhow such parochial approach/comments like that of Anonymous would in no way deter us from succeeding and hopefully soon we get into newer heights. Rest all, thank you for such encouraging words, its really good to get encouragement from people whom you dont know. Thank you Legally India for supporting us in this venture. Mr. Anonymous please read the life of Dhirubhai Ambani and Bill Gates if you need some encouragement in life.
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Like +0 Object -0 @chayan sarkar 10 Feb 12, 23:44
we'll read about ambani and bill gates alright; you go check this out though, ok?: www.legallyindia.com/201202032546/Law-firms/young-pxv-partnership-splits-over-vision-with-rohit-das-restarting-rda-legal#comments

jokes aside, best of luck.
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Like +1 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 11 Feb 12, 01:10
I completely fail to understand why the world is so bothered and irritated about what steps a person takes in his personal or professional life. Now you give me a link wherein an incident of a split has been mentioned on the hindsight I can give you almost a 1000 links wherein the firms have done wonders. Better not waste our time in sending links, we believe and we will achieve what we have aimed. Thank you so much for your precious research, I hope it does good to you and you come out as a better lawyer and human being. Try and wear the shoes of an optimist and get out boldly in the world, you ll see the world is a better place to live in.
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Like +0 Object -0 @chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 01:42
whoa, it was a joke man. optimism don't make space for humour or what? chillax, babay.

as an aside - 'why the world is so bothered' - because your precious piece of news is on an online legal newspaper, mister brainy. the world doesn't actually care one way or another, if that makes you feel any better. you are just today's bakar-fodder. you are my two-minute respite from my insane job.

i did mean the 'best of luck' seriously though. :) best of luck.
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Like +0 Object -0 chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 15:44
thank you buddy for the luck atleast we were of some good to you by bringing you respite. See KIAA works then, leave your "insane job" then and start something unique, follow our footsteps.
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Like +7 Object -0 Top N school-ite 12 Feb 12, 13:25  interesting
Since you take such a dig at 'national brutes' let me take a few at you.

'These comments really encourages'
'work even more harder'
'serve with full justice' (like really?)
'not doing only any business here'
'As this field is very vast like an ocean and until and unless you wont work on your own and make mistakes till time you wont be able to learn proper tactics of this field.'
' So this will give a good impact on foreign law firm who want to outsource work in India as LLP has limited liability for their partners and it is more secured company as compared to normal partnership or sole proprietorship firm'
'So this is what main idea behind KIAA'
'even more harder to stand up to your expectations'

Sir, I was of the humble opinion that basic English was a prerequisite to rendering legal advice. Before you make sweeping statements against 'national brutes' [...].

The little that I may understand of the market gives me a feeling that anyone who has read the article and followed up on the comments shall falter twice before even remotely considering your retainer.

Yet, Sir, I wish you all the best and hope that you do indeed prosper.
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Like +1 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 13 Feb 12, 18:29
Thank you so much for wishing us luck (ignoring the fact that however ill tempered you might have been while writing so). Anyway coming to the point of your categorically speaking against us on the aspect of english being a prerequisite, I would like to state that, we never wrote this article neither were we giving a face to face interview and the same was conducted via telephonic conversation so mistakes are bound to happen, from both the interviewer and the interviewee. You know, I have always believed in one fact and you may follow this in future too, that a person who just counts a person's mistakes, lands no where. See the fact is, we are working hard and striving to achieve greater heights. We do not deny the fact that success in the field of law takes a lot of time, but we also know that it is not impossible. We have the contracts and our (few) clients are happy with our work and also that they do not count our mistakes in our work because they see the final outcome. However, I never have any issues with any "Nationalite" but I hate their attitude towards other law school grads and their sense of unmatched superiority complex. I have seen the practical court life and however short it may be but honestly speaking an advocate inside the court stands on an equal platform. He might be also be from any ivy league law school, but he he might falter and make a mess of the case. My personal experience has yet not seen any exceptionally good fresher from any of the celebrated law school, who have surpassed me. And since you have already said that you know little about the market, let me tell you people hardly see language as a barrier and the only thing which matters is skills and work. Start reading, if you are not in the habit of doing so and once you start reading then do read the life of Winston Churchill. He was one of the most prolific speakers and one of the best leaders to have come up ever in the world's political scene. But unfortunately he was bad in english and once, when he was addressing a session in the Oxford University, after he had finished, a PhD from Oxford came up to him and said that "sir you have made 16 grammatical mistakes in your 15 mins speech", to this Mr. Churchill replied "Son, may be that is your observation, but fortunately the world only sees me as one of the greatest leaders and they dont count my mistakes". Anyway, it was nice talking to you via these comments, would wish to meet you if possible pertaining only to the fact that I really liked the way you wrote the second comment of yours. All the best!
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Like +0 Object -0 So sad 13 Feb 12, 15:14
WTF; get a grip guys! This can't be serious, Kian.

Quoting Karan Bindra:
Thanks a lot everyone for your valuable comments and criticism. However these comments really encourages us to work even more harder and achieve our respected goals. We know for many people it might be too early to open a law firm but we have full confidence in our self that we will be able to serve everyone with full justice. We are not doing only any business over here but we are also doing something for our society in our own manner.
As this field is very vast like an ocean and until and unless you wont work on your own and make mistakes till time you wont be able to learn proper tactics of this field. So I have my own vision on this aspect and I decided to open a law boutique in New Delhi and decided to have an LLP firm So this will give a good impact on foreign law firm who want to outsource work in India as LLP has limited liability for their partners and it is more secured company as compared to normal partnership or sole proprietorship firm. So this is what main idea behind KIAA. Once again thanks a lot for your good wishes and we promise to work even more harder to stand up to your expectations
Regards
Karan Bindra
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Like +0 Object -0 Sushant 10 Feb 12, 23:01
Lawyers who wish to start on their own need at least 5 years PQE with 2-3 different firms with a good work success rate in each of the places... The views of KIAA LLP and its partners sound very immature and is like a crash and burn waiting to happen... However, I wish them the very best...
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Like +1 Object -0 Anony09 11 Feb 12, 00:19
Dear Chayan,Karan, & Ankur, am really glad to see my law school grads are coming up with such bold step, but few corrections and maturity is required to make every venture successful, first of all you guys are not pass of 2010 batch, second do you know the concept of LLp in concern to law firms, can Law frims operate as LLP, Have you guys Obtained Designated Partner Identification Number (DPIN), get your registration with ROC, and get aware of LLP act, there is a very long way to go, stop wasting time in uneccessary comments, and all the best with lots of wishes from your Senior, ALS, 2005-2010 pass out.
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Like +0 Object -0 Annon 11 Feb 12, 00:48
Dear Anony09
Thanks for your wishes and yes off course we are very well aware with the Rules and Regulation of LLP in India and we have completed all the required procedure as it is well written in Guidelines of MOCA and for further to some confusion regarding the Batch it will be great if you could provide me with your email i will mail you all the details in brief.
Regards and thanks for your kind wishes
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Like +0 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 11 Feb 12, 01:06
we do have a designated identification number, we have registered and also that we have also found out the concept of a law firms working as llp's. we have a designated C.A AND C.S on board who is helping us with all the registration formalities. thank u so much for he support!
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Like +0 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 11 Feb 12, 01:12
correction i meant to write "director identification number and not designated"
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Like +4 Object -0 Anay 11 Feb 12, 01:30
This is a joke..... or am I dreaming! Kian pls do not report such stories- this a mockery of the profession...... Tx
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Like +10 Object -0 Socrates 11 Feb 12, 03:05  interesting
Law Firms are not Built over a cup of coffee my child, you are just young kids, Eminent lawyers of my era took years to gain this stage, it took me 15 years to be elevated as a Senior Counsel, anyways Welcome to the Business World.. lets see till how long you kids Survive out here... my advice to KIAA - There is a very thin line between Confidence & Over Confidence. think which side you belong to....
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Like +1 Object -0 chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 15:51
I think your are right Sir, but fortunately for us we are on the "confidence" side of the table. Its a great feeling when my father who is himself a senior advocate and my mother a senior professor stands by my side to support me and so is the same with the other members. I personally feel that if you loved ones are by your side then you can conquer anything and everything. I hail from a family which has given the country a supreme court judge, many high court judges and even more advocates, so for me hard work and confidence go hand in hand. We will surely survive the tide and may be yes the initial years will bring extremely bad days but that surely wont deter us from succeeding. But I do appreciate your stand sir, this has probably become a cliche for us, and its pretty obvious for people to say this but hardwork can never bring failure and if we are working 17-18 hours a day then I think we should have faith in ourselves to succeed and do well and not bow down at such demoralizing comments.
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Like +1 Object -0 Le 11 Feb 12, 06:49
umm... one question, have the co-founding junior partners passed AIBE?
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Like +2 Object -0 chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 15:52
yes we have cleared AIBE
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Like +0 Object -0 Anon 11 Feb 12, 10:21
Mr Sarkar - our comments are not towards you. It is towards sensational reporting of legallyindia that we are commenting on. Best of luck with your venture but there are 10 or more ventures like yours which are being established everyday. We are just asking legallyindia to choose carefully...
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Like +0 Object -0 LLP? 11 Feb 12, 10:28
ARE LAWYERS IN INDIA ALLOWED TO FORM AN LLP??
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Like +0 Object -0 chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 15:53
yes there are many more law firms working as LLPs
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Like +3 Object -0 R.Ramachandran 13 Feb 12, 12:17
Dear Mr. Chayan,
Do you seriously think that 'other law firms working as LLPs', is the legal answer to the query posed?
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Like +5 Object -0 ICFAI-an, Delhi 11 Feb 12, 10:50  interesting
I want to ask few people out here - Why is it so that when a group of NUJS pass outs open there shop it turns out to be an impressive entrepreneurial venture, while the same sort of venture is considered to be a joke for a group of Amity pass outs ??

Business of Law is much different than Practice of Law !! Considering their present clients, I believe this firm will prosper in the coming future. Good Luck guys !!
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Like +0 Object -0 annonymus 11 Feb 12, 15:19
Thank you very much sir for supporting us. We need this type of support.

Regards
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Like +0 Object -0 chayan sarkar 11 Feb 12, 15:55
Thank you so much for you supportive comments. It is true the world fails to understand that the practical world is totally different. But to tell you the fact I have faced many of these celebrated national law school passouts in court rooms and till date they stood no where close to me and thats an honest admission.
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Like +1 Object -0 err... 11 Feb 12, 17:54
LOL. don't look now, but your inferiority complex is showing.
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Like +2 Object -0 anonymous 12 Feb 12, 01:17
all the best celebrated 'N' tagged lawyer. chayan you are right these idiots are good for nothing. I passed out from a private law school and today m a successful lawyer but i have seen that these national law students are those brutes who will just be able to do stupid research work. they can never grow practically as a lawyer.
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Like +5 Object -0 El vida :P 12 Feb 12, 12:05  interesting
Exactly. Although I am from an "N" school, those guys suck at the Bombay HC when it comes to hard-core litigation. I have seen people from top-notch law schools getting their balls cracked by a quick-tongue from some XYZ Law College.
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 13 Feb 12, 18:37
so why the hell are you so bothered to sit and comment on this, do something in your life and then TALK.
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Like +4 Object -1 snape 11 Feb 12, 23:38
A first year law student of any of the 5 top national law school can give you a run for your money. You studied in Amity because you couldn't make it anywhere else!
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Like +0 Object -0 anonymous 12 Feb 12, 01:27
lets see who runs for what!
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Like +2 Object -0 P 13 Feb 12, 01:59
Hi for your kind information i was at NLS, Banglore but i am soo sorry to say that i have to choose amity over the so called NLS, just because the people over there was totally lame. Atleast 65 Out of 100 was used to dope and they was full Rave party.
I dont understand what people think of N-School they might be looking good for degree purpose and nothng else.
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Like +2 Object -0 GLC 14 Feb 12, 18:38
Either you are lying, or you have lost your mind. Coz no one in their right mind would choose amity over nls bangalore.
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Like +0 Object -0 NLSIU Student 24 Feb 12, 13:27
Quoting P:
Hi for your kind information i was at NLS, Banglore but i am soo sorry to say that i have to choose amity over the so called NLS, just because the people over there was totally lame. Atleast 65 Out of 100 was used to dope and they was full Rave party.
I dont understand what people think of N-School they might be looking good for degree purpose and nothng else.




You certainly did not make it to NLSIU, Bangalore, your spelling and horrible grammar confirm. And your numbers are wrong too.
So, please try to act original at least, when you try to criticise someone.
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Like +2 Object -0 Top N school-ite 12 Feb 12, 10:51
Quoting chayan sarkar:
Thank you so much for you supportive comments. It is true the world fails to understand that the practical world is totally different. But to tell you the fact I have faced many of these celebrated national law school passouts in court rooms and till date they stood no where close to me and thats an honest admission.

Now you are on the side of 'overconfidence', Sir.
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Like +1 Object -0 N Schoolite 12 Feb 12, 15:38
Quoting chayan sarkar:
Thank you so much for you supportive comments. It is true the world fails to understand that the practical world is totally different. But to tell you the fact I have faced many of these celebrated national law school passouts in court rooms and till date they stood no where close to me and thats an honest admission.

You would never know what a N-Schoolite can do. You are not even in the league. Anyway, all the best with your new venture.

And just to tell you what a N-Schoolite can do, Trilegal was founded by students solely from NLS. Do something as big, and then TALK. :)
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 13 Feb 12, 17:54
@ 20.2 Trilegal wasn't formed "solely" by students from NLS Bangalore. In fact, none of the Delhi founding partners were NLS passouts.

Having clarified this, I generally don't disagree with what you are saying!
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Like +0 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 13 Feb 12, 18:33
Sure brother, we have started doing big and that is why this interview dude and Amity Law School did not exist as early as NLS did, so may be that is the reason that NO BIG THING happened earlier.
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Like +0 Object -0 MATA 14 Feb 12, 23:21
Hahaha !! Joke of the year for me !!!
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Like +0 Object -0 Are You Serious? 15 Feb 12, 16:42
You have faced many national law school pass outs in court rooms and they stood no where close to you and that's an honest admission?

Sir, that is your opinion, an admission is when you admit an established fact, and the merit or demerits of your legal skills can never be admitted by you only opined by you or anyone else for that matter.

Its like me saying i admit that you are a bad lawyer, how can i admit something which i myself do not and cannot know to be true in all cases.

I think all of you should be commended for being brave enough for attempting to start a firm, but please do not be under any false impression that without the legal backing of your mommy, daddy and various uncles you will be able to do much in the beginning years.

So whether you are from the national law schools or not it is immaterial, the only material thing is can you provide the client the service that he desires, and if you are able to do so you will be successful, if you can't you won't be successful irrespective of your legal pedigree.

Save the chest thumping for when you have actually achieved something
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Like +2 Object -0 Just Another Lawyer 11 Feb 12, 19:16
I would believe that in other cases, the guys who have started the firms have already done something. These guys are happily broadcasting that GMR will "hopefully" work with them. FYI, if GMR sees this, trust me, no work is ever going to come from them considering you're happy bandying about their name without any sort of firm commitment.
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Like +0 Object -0 anonymous 12 Feb 12, 01:29
kindly go ahead and ask we would be highly obliged!
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Like +0 Object -0 Anay 12 Feb 12, 13:01
Quoting ICFAI-an, Delhi:
I want to ask few people out here - Why is it so that when a group of NUJS pass outs open there shop it turns out to be an impressive entrepreneurial venture, while the same sort of venture is considered to be a joke for a group of Amity pass outs ??

Business of Law is much different than Practice of Law !! Considering their present clients, I believe this firm will prosper in the coming future. Good Luck guys !!



You clearly dont know the background of the NUJS graduates who founded that firm... Each of them had 5-7 years of work-ex in top notch law firms and are extremely bright will brilliant work- ex. If not anything, they are NOT a bunch of lame ducks!
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Like +1 Object -0 ICFAI-an, Delhi 13 Feb 12, 14:40
No I am not talking about them. I was referring to few recent NUJS pass outs who had opened a legal outsourcing office right after getting their law degree. Anyways, I believe it doesn't take much to wish these enthusiasts the very best for their venture. If you can't then at least refrain from making negative statements.
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Like +3 Object -0 Anonymous 11 Feb 12, 11:09
Would also ask the partners to rethink their own designation. A 2010 batch "Senior Partner" would get laughed out of any potential clients office when they go to meet them. Most "top-tier" law firms which is their perceived competition and where they aspire to be, will never take a 1st year associate for a client meeting.

Sometime back there was an article in LI on how law firms scrapped LLPs based on "threats" of the Bar Council, While these "threats" and the validity of the same are in question, big law firms have backed off from LLPs as a structure. Is it wise for a start up to go to town telling the world that they are an LLP when big firms have chosen to play it safe on the structure?
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Like +5 Object -0 anon 11 Feb 12, 12:03  interesting
Kian-disgusting! Are you short of work/stories?!
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 11 Feb 12, 17:10
thank u guys for ur valuable comments. i appreciate all what u all have said. ever1 is unique and there should be no comparison bcoz no two persons can be at par , either one will be better or worse than the other. so the motto should be to maintain the nobility of our profession. so we all should work to achieve a bigger goal that is humanity in our profession . best of luck kiaa for ur future endeavours. koi na
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Like +7 Object -0 Not Me 11 Feb 12, 19:11  interesting
Kian, this is atrocious. Let these guys at the very least start working on full fledged transactions at least before giving them such unnecessary publicity. What was the logic behind posting this article anyway?

Also, Chayan and the rest, at least get your spelling and grammar right before trying to dole out legal advice. All the best in any case.
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Like +0 Object -0 a 11 Feb 12, 19:54
I doubt Kian or his team pursued this story. LI was probably approached by the start up themselves and Kian was kind enough to oblige and publish their story. But I completely agree - unless the law firm really achieves something worthwhile, there is no point writing about it.

Kian - there was nothing offensive about my earlier post in reply to 13. Not sure why you chose not to publish it. I'm not complaining though. Its completely your prerogative.
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Like +3 Object -0 anon 12 Feb 12, 01:22
I think first of all you got to read better. Its not KIAN but KIAA, and then come and teach us grammar and we will be obliged if you could please enunciate on the points wherein such errors have been spotted Mr/Ms English Teacher.
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Like +2 Object -0 Just Another Lawyer 12 Feb 12, 21:53
The reference was to "Kian Ganz" not KIAA. Dude, how old are you?
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Like +4 Object -0 anon 13 Feb 12, 17:57
I shudder to think what these 5 year olds will be up to!
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Like +1 Object -0 its me 12 Feb 12, 01:25
Guys kindly ignore such stupid people, have faith in you abilities and these national law brutes will just ding their own anthem and fall in the ditch. great work KIAA team.
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Like +0 Object -0 annonymus 12 Feb 12, 10:50
Thanks a lot. Only just because of These type of comments Team KIAA will do their best and prove all critics to be wrong.
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Like +1 Object -0 emu 12 Feb 12, 01:25
awesome work guys all the very best.
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Like +4 Object -0 legal eye 12 Feb 12, 00:49
hahaha.....such kids!
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Like +1 Object -0 anon 2021 12 Feb 12, 01:36
these people are just jealous of you guys. just ignore such pessimism. go ahead and win!
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Like +0 Object -0 annonymus 12 Feb 12, 10:51
Thanks a lot :)
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Like +2 Object -0 Richa 12 Feb 12, 01:38
Just give a damn to these comments....have faith, even we started our own firm practice as young lawyers and even we met such sadists, but today they are still struggling and we have come of age.
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Like +1 Object -1 anon 13 Feb 12, 17:58
You mean "don't" give a damn!
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Like +2 Object -0 adv vikram 12 Feb 12, 01:38
awesome guys all the best.
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Like +2 Object -0 dd 12 Feb 12, 01:39
go conquer the world, you will get such losers but you gotta just ignore them
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Like +4 Object -0 Start-up 12 Feb 12, 09:58
Dear Karan & Chayan,

As a fellow law firm entrepreneur, congratulations, and remember one thing. Not a single person who is commenting on this page will be giving you a paisa for their work. What is more a lot of them simply live in the ivory cages of slavery in the big firms and have no idea of how, in fact, the business of corporate law works in India.

They send you news of split, as if necessarily its a bad thing, whereas some of them work for firms which are either breakaways themselves, or have split several times over.

So all the best guys, follow your dream, and do your best
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Like +2 Object -0 annonymus 12 Feb 12, 10:56
Thanks a lot and the way u have explained everything is really a very big motivation for us.
Regards
K
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Like +2 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 12 Feb 12, 11:59
Ha! I think you are absolutely right sir, we should try and ignore such losers and move ahead. Good to see another fellow young entrepreneur commenting on the article. Its just the parochial mentality of these people which is making them comment with oozing negativity. One of my fiends, who is apparently the youngest entrepreneurs I have come across and who is successfully running BITMANTRA.COM told me last night that these comments are the best thing to look at initially because its only these losers who will instill in you more and more confidence to win further in life. Truly speaking seeing my friends growth since she single handedly started her company 3 years back when she was just 21, I take her words and draw immense inspiration.
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Like +2 Object -0 @29 13 Feb 12, 07:36
I agree with you in that very few of the commenters will be likely to give Messrs Bindra and Sarkar much work, but I doubt it will be for the reasons you mention.

The reasons will be that, via their interview with Legally India, they have clearly demonstrated that they lack both spelling/grammar skills and discretion (GMR..), two qualities vital to good lawyering. Worse, they also appear to lack calmness and grace in replying to even mildly critical comments. Hotheadedness and unsupported conceit? Signs of great immaturity.

Still, one chap says his father is a senior advocate, so I assume a minimal supply of work is guaranteed. Good for them.

I now suggest that we all return to our 'ivory cages of slavery'. These people are not worth our time unless they begin to show results.
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Like +2 Object -0 KARAN BINDRA 12 Feb 12, 11:06
First of all we would like to thank you very much from core of my heart. Specially point
23.2--29 (x24x) for motivating us in this venture and also by explaining things may be through examples or experience. As because at the end of our day we work as a team and we only carry positivity with us and leaves all the negativity behind us.
Let me tell you guys whatever you are saying some way or other this really motivating us towards pur goal.
Regards
Karan
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Like +4 Object -0 anon 13 Feb 12, 18:09
Karan, you speak of high ideals, are you sure you have sufficient experience and knowledge to responsibly give the best and most correct legal advice to your clients at such an early stage in your career? People can argue that you are being a little irresponsible by exposing clients to possible consequences that you may not have envisaged or may have inadvertantly triggered due to some steps. Whilst I commend the entrepreneurial spirit and wish all of you all the best - the kind of reactions (sometimes bordering on childish) by your partners makes me think that you need to spend some time learning the tricks of the trade before setting up your shop.

When a partner shoots from his hips regarding KIAN vs KIAA (23.1/2), what is he going to do in a court or board room?
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Like +2 Object -0 Advocare_232 12 Feb 12, 12:10
Well done guys. Keep it up
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Like +2 Object -0 Kartikey Mahajan 13 Feb 12, 01:03
Well done guys....really a bold step. i wish u guys lots of success.
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Like +3 Object -0 Law_Justice 13 Feb 12, 01:27
Hi friends
I guess these young lawyers are really living the dreams of many young lawyers who cannot for some reason expand their practice. May be du to any reason and we should encourage them and What my thinking says these guys on right track. It dosent matter weather you are from N-School or whatever. What really matter is what kind of person you are and what actually u can do.
I think these young group can do a lot what our old generation couldn't do it at their ages.
Hat's off to them
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Like +1 Object -0 Int Lawyer 13 Feb 12, 08:03
Dear Founders /Senior Partners of KIAA,
No offence but you guys need some perspective - on the practice of law, on the Indian legal market and on life - perspective can often make or break a career.
Sarkar, its mot enough for your Mom and Dad to be behind you (of course, they would be - even if they were not Sr Advocate/Sr Prof). The question is: will your attract new clients based on your competence/experience/abi lity to inspire confidence?
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 13 Feb 12, 18:44
Everything starts slow and then it takes up pace and I think we might not crack the jackpot from day one, but success cannot stay far. "Fortune Favors the Brave"
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Like +0 Object -0 lawyer 13 Feb 12, 08:47
omg...senior partner and partner!!!!neways all the best guys...n one of you being a fifth generation lawyer will not have any problems in getting clients....
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Like +0 Object -0 xyz 13 Feb 12, 12:26
Kian this warrants a disclaimer of paid news!
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Like +0 Object -0 Smart LI 13 Feb 12, 13:05
I really doubt that LI is being paid for these articles. But LI is really smart. The fact that this article is one of the most read and most commented on LI clearly shows that they have got what they wanted. LI has a great sense of its readers and its audience - these are exactly the kind of articles which provoke law students and associates in law firms. By giving an unrestricted forum - it is a free for all platform to speel vitriol.

The simple question which LI needs to answer is, there are so many partnerships being formed everyday - why have they chosen to cover this particular one? Do they have a policy on what "start up" news will they cover and which start ups not to cover? Does it have to be students from particular colleges only?

Lastly - why does LI not require an email id for posting a comment - something which even a a website like rediff requires? At least the Partners of KIAA are man enough to identify themselves and respond to criticisms but the poor guys should at least know the email ids of those attacking them.

Could the real LI please answer these queries?
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Like +1 Object -0 kianganz 13 Feb 12, 13:15
Hi, thanks for your comment.

In response to your questions.

1. We generally try to cover almost every start-up we hear about which is interesting. We like start-up law firms because think they are an important facet of this market. So, if you are starting a law firm, please do get in touch with us and the odds are good that we'll cover.

2. We don't ask for email IDs for several reasons: people are generally quite worried about commenting from work and/or losing their job, etc; if you make email addresses compulsory, most just enter fake addresses anyway. The only option would be to force everyone to create Legally India accounts before commenting, but that would also prevent open discussion.

Hope this answers your questions somewhat?

Best wishes
Kian
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Like +0 Object -0 Smart LI 13 Feb 12, 16:07
Thanks for the response Kian.

I though am no convinced with your answer to question 2. If people are making comments out of fear that they may be thrown out of their jobs - why should they make such comments in the first place. What kind of comments would make one lose their jobs? They should have the guts to at least be identified by an email id. Secondly, even if fake addresses are entered, your readers will at least then know how seriously to take comments by someone who has time enough to create an email id like " ". The point being, the comments on LI would have less vitriol and would invariably lead to a more serious discussion - rather than mindless gossip and attacks.

But obviously - I think the real answer is that keeping it a totally open forum is what makes it more fun. You should then step up and say it in as many terms rather than cloak it with reasons like people commenting from work or losting their jobs.

Thats my take. I think you are playing a great role in chronicling the Indian legal sector - something that has never been done - but if you could do it in a style which does not encourage anyone and everyone to make hateful comments - that would be better. Just my two cents.

Aside this - I think you and LI are onto something really amazing. Your book when you turn 50 plus would be a most interesting read!
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Like +3 Object -0 kianganz 13 Feb 12, 16:29
Thanks for your feedback, kind wishes and interest in my potential retirement projects :)

On comments, we've gone through a bunch of variations in the past. If you forced people to comment under their own name, 99% of lawyers would not comment. Most are quite worried as what is associated with their name, and how their boss or client would look at it. Also they will make up random names adding more headache.

If you forced commenters to use an email address and this was published on the site, you'd have a huge spam and privacy problem.

And what I actually meant was that judging by experience, many people would just enter random/fake email addresses like if they didn't feel like providing a real one. Cross checking whether an account etc exists is technologically more complicated and bothersome to readers.

And yes, ultimately it would drastically reduce the number of comments, which would not be so much fun.

I'll admit there are many many reasons for the same thing :)

Best wishes
Kian
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Like +1 Object -1 Amity- Prachi Srivastava 13 Feb 12, 13:22
There there,

Prachi Srivastava, the new young LI recruit is from Amity Law School. These guys surely are her batch mates/friends.

And thus, they got covered. Hurray!

Simple fundas!
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Like +2 Object -0 kianganz 13 Feb 12, 13:37
I'm afraid your comment is factually incorrect on almost every level.

First of all, Prachi's alma mater should not (and does not) come into this.

Second, I was first contacted by the KIAA partners. Third, Prachi did not know any of the KIAA partners before covering this story.

On top of all of the above, Prachi graduated from Amity Delhi, which is part of Indraprastha (IP) University. The KIAA partners are from Amity University Noida, which is an autonomous university not affiliated with IP University or Amity Delhi. The only link is by name.

However, none of these points should really matter except for the first - LI will always retain its independent editorial judgment and neither Prachi or I would try to run a story merely based on our respective alma mater.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Like +3 Object -0 ICFAI-an, Delhi 13 Feb 12, 16:54
I won't completely invalidate your point, but I think these people may not be from the same college where Prachi did her law, considering the fact that Amity Law School has 3 branches - Delhi, Noida and Lucknow.

Moreover, I don't think LI reporters would indulge in any form of biased reporting.
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Like +0 Object -0 Adv_ Ti 13 Feb 12, 13:29
Hey friends
I think this is really an inspiration article for all the cowards who think that if they cant work on their own so no one else can also perform well in this field. I think legallyindia has done a comment able job by publishing this article as this will give boost to many young lawyers who always want to work on their own but due to this negative aspect they couldn't.
I am also a lawyer practicing in Delhi with a esteemed law firm and I am in fully support of the Legallyindia and this KIAA the upcoming law firm.
Best wishes
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Like +3 Object -0 Bobo 13 Feb 12, 15:21
I find it hilarious that the "senior" partner and the other founder took the time out to comment on posts and defend their actions.

The best defense? make some money, get some deals done and that will shut everybody up.

Then again....

You guys should work on your grammar.

Good Luck
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Like +0 Object -0 archit vasudeva 13 Feb 12, 15:22
hey guys all the best for ur new venture , hope u guys fly high...
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Like +0 Object -0 Bobo 13 Feb 12, 15:24
Also, access has been misspelled.

(Knowledge Information ACESS Associates)

Or was a 'c' redacted from the original spelling for numerological purposes?
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Like +0 Object -0 Bobo 13 Feb 12, 15:26
Whoops I just read that German inspiration bit. My bad.
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Like +0 Object -0 abc 13 Feb 12, 15:53
Kian,

I am a regular reader and often find criticism directed against you to be borne out of personal biases and say so in my comments. But, in this case, I fail to see why this story is worth mentioning. I am not discounting the venture merely because they are from a lesser known law school. This is a case of a few people with nothing commendable in their track records yet coming together to try their hands at practicing law. They may or may not succeed. I hope they do. But at present this is hardly news! Moreover, many of the responses purporting to be from partners of this entity give me the impression that this firm will not create news for some time to come.
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Like +1 Object -0 santhosh pandit 13 Feb 12, 15:59
Is anyone else reminded of the Malayalam superstar Santhosh Pandit (google him, it's worth it) while reading the responses by the 'senior partner' and 'partner'?
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Like +2 Object -0 anon_y 13 Feb 12, 16:04
Its one thing to have entrepreneurial spirit and a completely different thing to be hopelessly naive. Though this shouldnt have much to do with what law school someone (who starts his own firm less than a year after graduating comes from), you cant help but think of how Amity university teaches its students SO little (law and otherwise), that they can be blissfully ignorant of what it actually takes to practice law. One also wonders if any of the top brass at this firm would have been able to get jobs at any of the firms they now call their competition.

Then again, who knows? Maybe they'll be the Zuckerbergs and Saverins of law firms in India :p
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Like +1 Object -0 reality 13 Feb 12, 16:23
"If you are not dogged in India you have no chance. Everybody will pull you down, until you achieve some international standing - then they can’t do much any more".
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Like +3 Object -0 sushant 13 Feb 12, 19:56
The views of KIAA LLP and its partners are very childish and immature notwithstanding their lack of experience... Still most of my fellow legal brethren agree that at least 5 years of good work exp. are essential to good lawyering... This is not the business of selling wares and goods...

But I implore you not to mindlessly argue with these immature individuals so as to hamper your own intellect and ruin the impression of LI on potential readers by unintentionally sensationalizing such drivel.

People of the likes of the Hon'ble Senior Partner and his Partners will always have the last word because since stupid people tend to shout longer and louder than people who have acquired wisdom and judgment, ignorance generally prevails.

Some excerpts by Perry Marshall(a random dude on Google)which would apply to this case -

At any Hooters restaurant, on any given day and at any given time, there's a guy in there who thinks the waitress is attracted to him. Did you see that, Bill? She's hot for me. Did you see how she was looking at me? I'm tellin' ya, she's gonna give me her phone number, just you see, Bill..

Uh-huh. Yep. Sure Steve, I think she really does like you.

(Reality is no match for a good fantasy.)

OK, so what's the point? The point is, stupidity is cheap and plentiful. With stupidity, your options appear to be endlessly open. Enticing possibilities, immediate, apparent, as though you could just…

Wisdom is scarce and expensive and usually involves up-front commitments.... you just have to watch both stupid and smart people thrashing around in the mosh pit of life and begin to discern the difference-

1. Stupid people proudly step forward and identify themselves immediately and react to comments (like our esteemed Senior Partner and his hon'ble esquires.

2. Foolish decisions have immense appeal and obvious benefits with easy-looking terms.

3. Wise people research history and read original sources. Fools check on the latest buzz.

4. The wise make time to do things right the first time. Fools never have time to do it right the first time, but somehow they find the time to do it over again… and again... and again.

5. When wise people get criticism from another wise person, they ask, "Hey, is there anything else I should know?" Fools mouth off to the coach when he tells them to do their pushups.

6. Fools think only of the immediate benefit; Wise men think three or six or ten chess moves ahead and consider the long term consequences.

I don't know that anyone can just sit down and teach you to be wise. You can't go to a seminar and acquire this vital 21st century skill in an exciting, star-studded weekend getaway. However, you can:

1. Become aware of the distinction and begin thinking about it and noticing it - because vital lessons are literally everywhere in your life, quietly shouting to you to be noticed and absorbed.
2. @Kumar Ankur who seems saner among the lot- Associate with wise people, and distance yourself from people who always seem to be screwing up their life with bad decisions.You can't fix them anyway.
3. Seek and accept sound advice, even when it's uncomfortable, negative or embarrassing.
3. Disregard the raucous shouting, the flattery and surface level buzz, and tune into the quiet, calm voice of reason.
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Like +0 Object -0 Sushantis right 13 Feb 12, 20:59
Sushant - Very well put. I for one do not disagree that great things can be done with the right spirit and the zeal to learn. With that as the backdrop, it may not be entirely necessary to "work" in the profession for a few years before you hang your own shingle, as long as you are willing to be open-minded about the challenges that will undoubtedly face you in the exciting journey.

Having said all of that, I would have had much more respect for the KIAA partners if they simply acknowledged the fact that they are inexperienced. But then follow it up with an explanation as to why they would still do great. For example, "Yes, we are an inexperienced lot. But, we are currently partnering with XYZ law firm to get us through the first two years of our partnership on a best-friend basis. After which, we will emerge as blah blah. XYZ law firm will provide us with the administrative and legal support which is necessary for any new-age law firm. blah blah." Obviously, this is not a fully thought of response, but it is to make a point that criticism almost always has some foundation in reality and the "wise" identify and respond that reality.

They key is to tell the nay-sayers that while inexperience is a huge obstacle to overcome, there are currently plans in place which will see the firm through its initial phase of highs and lows and will set the firm up to success.

KIAA - take healthy criticism and see if you can introspect. After introspection, see if you can address the core of the issue (after all the extra-padding is taken away). If you still don't come up with plausible answers, it might be time to re-think.

Final point - Kian and LI are known for their integrity and they have created a forum where biasless expression has found a good home. LI has taken the suspense and surprise out of daily legal happenings in India and brought them to the general user's doorstep. So, to suggest that LI has been anything but gracious to these lads in brining this story forward is just short of ridiculous. Having said that, I will urge LI to vet these stories further and attempt to bring "news" that really has a chance to stand the test of commenters.
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Like +2 Object -0 Chayan Sarkar 14 Feb 12, 17:55
Honestly speaking, this is the best comment so far which has put a very good blend of both the sides. I dont know your identity but I respect and agree with your point of view. Now let me me put it this way, we have never denied the fact that we a bunch of inexperienced lawyers still on the threshold of having a footing in the profession. Yes we have to face uphill tasks ahead. I totally agree that we should have answered with a rationale and which we have not. But you see we are a young bunch and when such oozing negativity hits you, you tend to get irritated and angry at the mentality that the people hold. We do have a proper for our law firm but the same we cannot give the details of in public platform because the same demands confidentiality to be observed. There are a few former judges of Delhi High Court and other high court as well as a former judge of the Supreme Court backing us. My father being a senior advocate is assisting along with this, we do have senior officials from various departments who are going to help us with the compliance. I personally appreciate your comment and regret having lost track with the oozing negativity of the people commenting. I dont wish to name the people who are behind us because the same is against ethics.
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Like +0 Object -0 Views for the Editor 14 Feb 12, 04:08
Dear Kian,

At the outset let me say you are doing a great job with Legally India you do have a target audience and law students are a majority part of the same, albeit most who carry the cross of their institution a little to personally. (To all of you, guys it does not matter where you went to law school its what you do post that matters.)

To the lads at KIAA congrats for growing a set and taking the plunge, you may sink or you may swim but at least you gave it a shot. I wish you the best.

Now back to Kian : for whom I have an observation/question and hopefully he take this constructively. do you not think the real story here was missed?

It might have been better to ask these young lads when they had informed you of the launch as to how an LLP was practicing law? Furthermore did the Delhi High Court or the Supreme Court (I presume these guys will practice here and not the Tis Hazari courts) accept their registration as Advocates on Record in their present form as a law firm and thereby recognize the rights of an LLP t engage in the practice of law. Given that you had covered the story as to how the larger firms had concerns visa-vis' how a corporate body could engage in the practice of law as also the then and present uncertainty as to the tax treatment given to drawings in the hands of partners a paragraph or to clarifying this issue following up on this would have been the real story. If such registrations had been accepted a comment from the BCI would have in order as to what the position is. This could of course have all been done without putting KIAA at the eye of the storm, if that was a concern (though frankly they appear to be lads who would love the attention and press fall out :)

Given I have been away for the past year I might have missed any classificatory follow up story in this regard if so I do apologize for being critical it may just be the crappy cold weather in London and would welcome you directing me to the link in the archives.

If not a follow up story would be welcome.
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Like +0 Object -0 kianganz 14 Feb 12, 05:15
Thanks for your comment. Just a quick reply (as it is late and I hope I understand the question correctly) - I do think there are quite a few firms that are still LLP, particularly smaller ones.

Maybe you missed this story on the topic, which was quite interesting:
www.legallyindia.com/201112092439/Law-firms/law-firm-scraps-llp-after-illegal-threats-from-delhi-bar-council-chairman

I think that one is sort of in limbo right now, but there is clearly a bit of uncertainty about the treatment of LLPs.

We will try to follow up and keep you posted.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Like +0 Object -0 Views for the Editor 14 Feb 12, 13:42
Yup Kian you got the Question Right, thanks for this, and apologies if I was a tad verbose.

The BCI's reaction as to how the High Courts are recognizing LLP's would be the juiciest part for all of us to read. It would also in all probability result in a High Court taking a view and putting things to rest. Do not mean to direct the story but I guess there are a lot of us who want to bring clarity to the issue.
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Like +2 Object -0 anon 14 Feb 12, 13:26
Hi Guys, may be its too late to write a comment as a lot has been said already. Just wanted to add few thoughts:

1. First of all, great step, nothing beats having your own venture.
2. Agree with most of what you said.

But its important to remember that:

1. what matters at the end of the day is your experience, hard work and knowing what you do;
2. never underestimate yourself. virtues like knowledge and hard work don't come with brands.
3. Dont overestimate yourself. Just becoz you have started your venture, you do not become senior. It has to be earned, whether working for someone else or yourself.
4. Dont chew more than you can eat. its important to know what you cant do and what you can. Take up those assignments which you can execute effectively and efficiently and say no to those for which you are really not upto the mark. Experience is progressive not aggressive.
5. Most of all, have fun doing what you do.
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Like +3 Object -0 Watchdog 14 Feb 12, 15:34
107 comments - n majority of comments criticizing the article - is young Indian legal fraternity that free in life?...strange!!!!.....q uite evident that economy is not looking good ;(
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Like +8 Object -0 nicknameless 14 Feb 12, 21:35  interesting
KIAA partners,

Down the line of time, these you will gain some experience and hopefully, will be able to have a reasonably good practice either with KIAA or with some other firm (or may be a career in a completely different field). However, there will be a day when you will get up in the morning and regret your childish behaviour on this website which will stay itched as part of the never fading cyber memory. Google never forgives nor forgets. Would be a good retriement day story to narrate to your juniors when you retire.

Strive for one's ambitions and drive to follow one's dreams are rare gifts which all successful people have. However, successful stories are all made of actions and not words. None of the Zuckerbergs, Tatas, Jobs and similar others ever went out banging the gong of the incredible ambitious steps they were taking early in their life and trying to silence or wisdom feed the world with their incredible efforts. Trying to bask in the glory of a plan to fulfil one's dreams is the same as still dreaming (however, slightly more naïve).

You should have left it as a news and exploited the glory of publicity you received on LI (even if it was negative from a few corners). All responses and commenting from you just shows the sheer inexperience which is generally the core criticism of your efforts.

I am sure things will work out great for you all. Just direct your effort judiciously and feel the success, don't mouth it.
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Like +0 Object -0 Lawyer Baba 16 Feb 12, 17:59
Complete Agree
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Like +2 Object -0 Bar@Law 15 Feb 12, 22:50
I have just read this article and i am totally amazed by this bold step taken in India and i think this is a very good step as in G.Britain there are many law firms who are seeking to outsource their indian litigation works regardless the experience and I wish these young lawyers good luck with their work.
Regards
Garry
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Like +0 Object -0 anonymous 18 Feb 12, 00:00
thank you sir!
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Like +0 Object -0 anonymous 18 Feb 12, 00:15
The best part is that these guys have got immense publicity and i wud rather say that this a great business plan to start off with and in the coming years m surely going to see KIAA as a big name in the market.Mark my words all the guys criticizing this venture, they are going to rise to good heights but ya stay away from answering such comments. it is like people in india have the habit of just pulling the curtains down before even the show starts, u gotta ignore such sadists.
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Like +2 Object -0 Sherlock 16 Feb 12, 03:38
There are a few former judges of Delhi High Court and other high court as well as a former judge of the Supreme Court backing us.

I dont know what to say here....
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Like +0 Object -0 anon 16 Feb 12, 11:50
Agree.

Haha
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Like +1 Object -0 Admirable 16 Feb 12, 03:51
KIAA, congratulations on starting up. It's inspiring to see that you're so comfortable with who you are. Being able to deny all the negativity and focus on the positives takes an immense amount of faith and courage, which you have shown. It's true that everyone has a different benchmark of success and will judge you by their own standards. Sometimes people will judge you harshly, because that is how they judge themselves. I'm sure if you stay focused and keep following your spirit you will achieve what you have envisioned. Best of luck. Wish you much success.
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Like +3 Object -0 legal eagle 16 Feb 12, 17:36
Well done guys. I must say you guys have taken a very bold step and have braked the Ice and Myth that only a forefather law firms can survive in this country. I hope that you guys survive very well and convert all negative comments into positive comments.
Bravo guys!! Truly inspired
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Like +1 Object -0 ROFL 17 Feb 12, 01:20
"Braked the Ice and Myth"

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Really? And a Legal Eagle at that!?
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Like +3 Object -0 Lawyer Baba 16 Feb 12, 17:52
It is very good to read that young lawyers are setting up law firms. However it is not expected to read their counter-comment essays; throwing weights who is backing them etc etc. Senior partners and partners don't waste time this way so you should stop cats and dog fights and / or throwing weights. Its like watching two brothers fighting for an ice cream on a hot summer day and spilling the cream - nobody getting their shares. All the best and keep working and running, else your clients will run away from you.
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Like +0 Object -0 sushant 17 Feb 12, 21:41
Senior Partner?! HaHa! This is hilarious! Hear that Cyril, Shardul,Zia... This is rich!!! HaHaHaHa!!!
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Like +0 Object -0 Sumant 17 Feb 12, 23:48
This is a great inspiration for the whole of the legal fraternity in India and we should not start demoralizing these young entrepreneurs so much. It is a bold step but Chayan, Karan and Kumar I think you will come of age and do well in future and for sure shut these ever blabbering mouths.
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Like +0 Object -0 Barrack Obama 17 Feb 12, 23:51
Hi
This is a nice development in the Indian Legal Industry. I have not seen such a bold step in India much. Its more apparent to see such bold decisions in places like U.S, where I practice as a lawyer. Good going guys and come on India you cannot be so backward in your approach by speaking so ill about these chaps. Good going mates! I think start looking for work outside India, the west really wants such firms to do their Indian part of the business.
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Like +1 Object -0 adv_cs 17 Feb 12, 23:54
It doesn't matter whatever post you choose all does matter is the quality of work and I guess these young generation are quite satisfactory in terms of the work and specially people from metro city like us are catering fabulously to their clients and I think KIAA will definitely the next thing in the law firms may be not now but surely in coming future.
Fantastic article by Li and best wishes to KIAA
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Like +8 Object -0 a 18 Feb 12, 08:31  interesting
I've had enough of these juveniles. Is there any feature on the LI website, similar to the "Do not call" registry for mobile phones, which I can opt for and ensure that updates/comments on this article do not show on my computer screen when I visit the LI website?
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Like +0 Object -0 hahahaha 20 Feb 12, 14:23
this anonymous seems to be Mr. Chayan Sarkar in another garb.. btw thanks LI for this fun article.. it made me laughon a monday afternoon
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Like +0 Object -0 SUDHANSU MISHRA 15 Sep 13, 00:47
It is always required that an advocate requires around five years of experience as a trainee under some other advocate before starting on his own. One may be a very brilliant student of law but experience of working in the courts is so vital as a real life experience has no substitute. It is also essential that the person who presides over the court must have similar length of practice before taking up judicial position.
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