NLIU Bhopal, Delhi University’s Campus Law Centre, Pune’s Symbiosis Society’s Law School were slotted next amongst the top five law colleges this year.
The annual survey undertaken by the India Today group in association with market research company Nielsen released the ranking of India’s best colleges in the field of law and arts, commerce, science, medicine and engineering.
The other national law schools to have made into India Today’s top ten ranks include NUJS Kolkata and NLU Jodhpur on the sixth and tenth spots respectively with ILS Law College Pune, Banaras Hindu University’s (BHU’s) Faculty of Law and Amity Law School also in the top ten.
In the print version of the magazine India Today said “what sets Nalsar apart” were moot courts, unique topics in its courses (including cyber law, intellectual property rights, insurance and banking, civil aviation management, realty sector, law and administration and aerospace), routine (a strict campus regimen where students are required to be in hostels by 9pm normally and by 11pm during exams), and the semester system, allowing for longer holidays to pursue internships.
India Today wrote: “Nalsar excels over other law schools in moot court competitions, which are competitive and very academically rigorous. For the past two years, Nalsar has finished in first place with National University of Juridical Sciences (NUJS), Kolkata, and NLSIU finishing in second and third places, according to law website LegallyIndia.”
Nalsar won the 2009-10 MPL sponsored by Clifford Chance and this year’s 2010-11 season of the MPL that was sponsored by Allen & Overy.
NLIU Bhopal, Nalsar Hyderabad and Symbiosis Pune all had taken out full-page advertisements in the print publication.
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The methodology of Nielsen in compiling the survey began in March 2011, according to India Today, using “secondary data sources such as the Internet, published reports and the Association of Indian Universities Handbook”. Experts in each city were then asked to distribute 100 points between five parameters: “reputation of colleges, quality of academic input, student care, college infrastructure and job prospects”.
Experts were not allowed to rate their own college. From that shortlist a second “panel of experts” rated colleges in each stream nationally. Top-ranked colleges at that point were asked to provide factual data, with colleges that declined to supply such data not having been considered in the final rankings.
NUJS Kolkata, which boycotted the June 2011 Outlook India survey following the college making formal complaints about its and India Today’s methodology, was ranked sixth by India Today.
Factual score accounted for 40 per cent, with the perceptual scores compiled by experts accounting for 60 per cent. Faculty of colleges was not considered.
Nalsar was ranked first in all categories (see table), with NLSIU having been ranked second in all categories, except for the “factual rank” of college-submitted materials where it achieved only a 9th rank. NLIU Bhopal and NUJS Kolkata’s submitted materials in the “factual rank” category came second and third respectively. [Editor’s note: the online version of the India Today rankings breakdown contains factual errors]
Lawyers Update magazine in December 2010 was the first publication to use data from Legally India’s Mooting Premier League in its ranking of law schools.
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Kian
Not that I know but I suspect highly that journalists would not have received commission directly for any ads.
The way these kinds of things work, in my understanding, is that Nielsen or whoever the agency is compiles the rankings. At that point, the commercial team at India Today or the respective publication would contact the colleges included in the top 25, say, and ask them if they wanted to advertise.
Sometimes they might tell the college "you've been ranked second" why don't you take out an ad? If the college doesn't, so be it, the rankings don't change, although a college might feel some moral pressure to buy an ad if they have been ranked highly.
If the system were corrupt, hypothetically, the most likely way this would work is to jiggle with the rankings after the advertisements were confirmed (ie., by adding a point here or there) but I would be very surprised if it happened completely blatantly - i.e., buy an ad and you'll be ranked higher.
The other option more subtle could be that a magazine intentionally includes colleges highly in the rankings that are more likely to take out ads, in some unspoken understanding. Again, merely speculating.
In any case, I do not think there is any evidence of anything shady having happened at India Today or any other magazine. We just mentioned who had advertised for completeness' sake.
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Kian
I really believe that those who don't look beyond where their own college is ranked and remain satisfied are to be blamed. Great, you liked where NALSAR was ranked. But even for a moment, are you absolutely convinced by the methodology and the other nitty-gritties of the entire ranking system here (or for that matter, the one adopted by Outlook)?
Make hay while the sun shines. The day whatever it is that is working for the top ranked colleges (whether it's luck / full page ads / selective blindness of the surveys) stops working so will be the day that others from the then top ranked colleges will blindly wish to follow the rankings!!
In short, I look forward to the day that voices from those who have been favorably ranked can speak out about just how bullshit these rankings are. Until then, whoever finds favor with these magazines will have there 15 seconds of fame, and the media honchos will of course laugh their way to their banks.
Symbiosis above NUJS.:D
Like what were people thinking?:D
Well Durgesh, ICFAI too has its alumni in firms like Khaitan & Co., PWC, E&Y and also in small but reputed firms like K-Law, India Law Services, Tuli & Co. (the best in insurance according to legal500), Universal Legal etc.
Also, our seniors in 2007 have won a national moot in Maharashtra where Amity Dehi was the runner-up. So, it will be unfair to claim that ICFAI stands nowhere infront of Amity and AIL. However, our aim is not to compete with Amity and AIL but to establish as a premier law school at par with the NLUs. We take inspiration from our senior batches who struggled a lot and made into good law firms and corporates.
plz note that full-page advertisement cost in lakhs and the journalist who gets the advertisement also gets certain percentage from the publisher. I dont mean to say that Nalsar is not a good law school but all i want to say is that these instances make credibility of ranking dubious.
\what an obsession,go ahead Mr. Ranbir Singh and his troop,hope this time must be satisfied,.....
Is one's standing as an administrator decided by his ability to hog the media lime-light? Look at the faculty Prof. Singh has put together at NUJS during his tenure and then talk. Which other law school VC's room can you enter without appointments and which other VC would give approvals over gmail chat? While there are several things wrong with NUJS, none of them is attributable to Prof. Singh who is undoubtedly one of the best academics and best administrators in the country.
I see.
Factual is based solely on the folder documents / 'presentation' prepared by the college and sent to the paper. Consider it a pitch document that lawyers write to get clients.
Perceptual is solely based on the evaluation of experts.
Thus, if a law school produces a very slick catalogue and folder of documents that sets out many achievements and strengths, their score may ultimately be high on that count, independently of perception.
Perceptual is worth 60% and factual 40% it seems and scores were then indexed so that the top college had 100 points.
Well, I havnt seen any of Alumni of IFCAI doing well... One or two is an exception... give me figures if you dont agree. On the other hand.. Amity and Army both have a lot of standing in reputed law firm. Whatever said and done, I dont think IFCAI was even considered in top 25 by outlook or any other mag.
There is a Flat Earth group which meets annually in London. The group still believes that the Earth is flat. Nobody can change your belief so its okay to end the matter.
Wah, mere sher!
u ought to be a pseudo lawyer to come up with tht kind of a comment...look up the clt student preferecnes since its inception 2008..all batches have opted for NLIU Bhopal over NLU Jodhpur. So lets not even go into certain magazine rankings, the students opting for in the CLAT know best.
Its deplorable to try and compare bhopal to some random mumbai college, am glad u remain a pseudo lawyer!!
I'm sorry, that's kind of sad. NLS allows you to pursue a variety of interests, makes you work very hard, have fun and doesn't shut you up at 9. Unrelated to the rankings, but citing that as a factor makes no sense. No college is better because they have a strict campus regimen.
Regarding your cricket rankings, cricket and moots are different. Also bradman and Raina are of different era. No comparision only. MPL ranks teams only for 1 year. Does not take historical value.
Go win some moots and then comment. sour loser
Already told you what would be a better system: a) quality of moots above quantity, b) more points for defeating NLU teams and foreign univs and less points for defeating B-grade colleges. Other suggestions: Leave out moots known to have controversial judging
2) MPL already has a format wherein quality moots are given almost 4 times the higher points compared to normal domestic moots.
3) What is a local college reaches final of a Tier 1 or Tier 2 event and Nalsar defeats them in the final? How do you address such scenarios. Not all NLU teams are good and not all non-NLU teams are bad (infact the performance of some of the non NLUs have been excellent in the last 2 seasons and more than 20 non NLUs have entered the MPL rankings.
At nalsar, in my batch of 80, 76 people have mooted, and 56 are moot winners... That is called a mooting culture. And that is why we win the MPL year after year, and will win again this year.
LOL..what a bunch of crap! False statements like this will only add to criticism of NALSAR. And since when did NALSAR have only 80 students?
i pity glc to spend their college days without these 2 important contributing factors.
and the answer is YES. we won mlp because we get high and have sex the night before every moot.
If there was a SPL (Sex Premier League) or a DPL (Dope Premier League)we would kick your ass there too GLC, don't worry.
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