Jindal Global Law School’s (JGLS) Sonepat debut 5-year-LLB class secured 57 jobs for its 83 graduates this year, including 12 Big Six law firm jobs.
The Sonepat law school’s recruitment performance comes right behind top national law schools NLSIU Bangalore, Nalsar Hyderabad, NUJS Kolkata and NLU Delhi in Legally India’s new ranking system for law schools based on assigning scores to jobs based on pay and general perception of desirability by students and recruitment committees.
The highest portion of the class – 22 students – were placed with corporate law firms, while the next big chunk opted for litigation (22 students), followed by LLMs abroad.
Amarchand Mangaldas picked up six students, while Khaitan & Co, J Sagar Associates (JSA) and Trilegal together hired a total of five JGLS grads.
One student secured a Delhi high court judicial clerkship while 17 others will pursue LLM abroad, with four joining top universities LSE, Cambridge, George Washington and Cornell.
Only four students took up positions in-house, while seven took up alternate legal careers including teaching at JGLS, NGOs and other organisations.
JGLS vice chancellor Prof C Raj Kumar said in a statement: “Tomorrow’s lawyers are going to be pursuing a range of career options like law firms, corporate houses, international organisations, NGOs, research think tanks etc. I firmly believe that the success of JGLS will be measured by its ability to harness the talents of its students to seize these opportunities. JGLS empowers its students to pursue fulfilling careers across different facets of the legal profession. The JGLS graduate is situated to make choices that may not exist in many law schools.”
3-year LLB
All students out of eight students graduating in the three-year LLB graduating in 2014 secured disclosed opportunities.
- J Sagar Associates (JSA),
- Luthra & Luthra,
- Punjab & Haryana high court,
- Saikrishna & Associates,
- a junior associate position at Keystone Partners (formerly Nayak & Srikumar) in Bangalore,
- an LLM University of Cambridge Commonwealth Shared Cambridge Scholarship, 100% Tuition Fee and 100% Living Cost waived,
- Solomon & Co, Mumbai
- Training Contract with White & Case
The three-year LLB graduating batch size will be around 40 next year.
5-year Recruitment Power Rankings (RPR)
Average Job Score | Batch-Size Adjusted Recruitment Power Score | |
---|---|---|
Nalsar Hyd'd | 24 | 22 |
NLSIU B'galore | 22 | 16 |
NUJS Kolkata | 22 | 15 |
NLU Delhi | 22 | 15 |
JGLS Sonepat | 19 | 13 |
NLIU Bhopal | 19 | 11 |
NLU Jodhpur | 17 | 10 |
Nat'l Avg Score | 19 | 10 |
AIL Mohali | 14 | 9 |
CNLU Patna | 11 | 8 |
NUALS Kochi | 15 | 8 |
HNLU Raipur | 14 | 6 |
RMLNLU Lucknow | 16 | 5 |
RGNUL Patiala | 13 | 5 |
GNLU Gand'r | 28 | 4 |
According to Legally India’s tiered RPR ranking, JGLS’ five-year LLM batch-adjusted job score is 13.01, which is higher than nine other national law schools.
The figure is arrived at by adding the total jobs in each RPR Tier and dividing it by the total number of jobs (1080 total Recruitment Power Score divided by 57 jobs, coming to an average job score of 19. This is then multiplied by the percentage of students with disclosed jobs, which is 68.6 per cent in JGLS’ case, coming to a batch-size adjusted Recruitment Power Score of 13).
Legally India reported the campus recruitment figures for 13 national law schools which conducted campus recruitment this year.
According to the RPR, Nalsar Hyderabad performed better than all national law schools (including India’s oldest, NLSIU Bangalore) in finding placements for its 2013-14 graduates.
The RPR is a work-in-progress that should be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
The RPR is intended to assign an approximate metric of recruitment prospects and strength of law schools, which tends to manifest in a greater number of students getting jobs or career options that are high-paying or perceived as more competitive. [More information here]
JGLS jobs at law firms
22 graduates secured jobs with domestic law firms and one with a local Dubai firm.
Law firm (with RPR tier) | Number of Jobs | Recruitment Power Score |
Amarchand Mangaldas – Tier 2 | 6 | 180 |
J Sagar Associates – Tier 2 | 2 | 60 |
Khaitan & Co – Tier 2 | 3 | 90 |
Trilegal – Tier 2 | 1 | 30 |
Economic Laws Practice – Tier 3 | 2 | 40 |
Nishith Desai Associates – Tier 3 | 1 | 20 |
Hemant Sahar Associates – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Udwadia Udeshi & Argus – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
RRG & Associates – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Mamta Choudhary Associates – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Jupiter Law Partners – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Unnamed Bangalore and Tax law firms – Tier 4 | 2 | 20 |
Local Dubai firm – Al Sulaiti law firm – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
JGLS litigation jobs
The next biggest chunk of the class, 22 students, opted for court practice
Litigation (RPR tier) | Jobs | Recruitment Power Score |
Unnamed litigation – Tier 4 | 15 | 150 |
Advocate Arundhati Katju, Delhi high court – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate General of Maharashtra Darius Khambata – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate Menaka Guruswamy, Supreme Court – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate Shobha, Supreme Court – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate Jayant Bhushan, Supreme Court – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate JS Bhasin, Supreme Court – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Advocate Manoj Taneja, Patiala House court Delhi – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
JGLS LLMs and Clerkships
One student secured a Delhi high court judicial clerkship while 17 others will pursue LLM abroad, with four joining top universities LSE, Cambridge, George Washington and Cornell.
Clerkships and LLM (RPR tier) | Students | Recruitment Power Score |
Clerkship with justice Manmohan Singh – Tier 2 | 1 | 30 |
Temple University – TIer 4 | 3 | 30 |
Zhejiang University Scholarship for LLM in Chinese Law – TIer 4 | 2 | 20 |
Tilburg University – Tier 4 | 2 | 20 |
LSE – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
University of St Thomas Law School – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Queen Mary – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
University Illinois – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Durham University – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Cambridge University – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
University of Edinburgh – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Northwestern/Cornell – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Georgewashington University school of law – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
LLM Wirtschaftsuniversität Vienna – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Other jobs
Seven students have taken up alternate legal careers, including teaching at JGLS
Other organisations (RPR tier) | Jobs | Recruitment Power Score |
Research Assistant at JGLS – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
LAMP Fellow – Tier 3 | 1 | 20 |
Vakilsearch Legal Solutions - Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Ministry of Law & Justice – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Environmental NGO Vanashakti – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
Save Life Foundation – Tier 4 | 1 | 10 |
In house
Only four students took up in house roles with three organisations.
In house (RPR tier) | Jobs | Recruitment Power Score |
JSPL – Tier 3 | 2 | 40 |
Axis Bank – Tier 3 | 1 | 20 |
Cognizant Technology Solutions – Tier 3 | 1 | 20 |
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As stated above, this is a work-in-progress and needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...
Dear Kian, this is yet another example of a "methodology" that is not worth the paper it is written on ... like India Today's Nielsen methodology which said ILS Law College Pune is the best institution for legal studies in the country - ROFL - among other outrageously ridiculous things! I sincerely hope that LI does not goes down the India Today path, because I quite like LI.
I don't understand LI's love for JGLS. Is it because LI, Vahura, and all private law schools are in the business of law and legal education, directly and/or indirectly? Anyway, write whatever crap you like. It is your reputation.
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At least JGLS ended up being pretty transparent with its figures, but in future years we hope to be able to do report all final recruitments around a similar time (and hopefully not December).
Poor JGLS
Compaaring JGLS with IIPM is most unkind....
But if you emerged from your comfortable troll cave for more regularly, you might also have noticed that LI has been the only publication, as far as I'm aware, to have regularly also covered pieces of negative news coming out of JGLS. Have a look at our previous coverage if you don't believe me:
www.legallyindia.com/tag/jindal-global-law-school-jgls
Not that this should matter one jot either with respect to this story, which is identical to any other story that we've done about law school recruitments.
And for the record, yes, JGLS' figures are actually the most transparent we've seen to date. They have disclosed a full list of student names and employers. While we've obviously agreed to keep student names confidential, this level of disclosure leaves far less scope for fudging than the recruitment data of any other law school we've received, including Nalsar, which had sent us the next-most detailed breakdown of recruitments in 2014.
If there is a legitimate bone to pick with JGLS, it is that they've waited until December to send us full figures, despite us having requested and expected them much earlier.
We therefore hope that next year they can supply us with figures earlier, but other than that, I'm hoping for national law schools in particular to be similarly detailed in RCC reports going forward.
We're kind of looking at it like this - our recruitment rankings has been an ad-hoc opt-in system, for the most part, but in case of national law schools, there is a much stronger public interest how they are performing than some private colleges, so you'll find that our coverage is hugely biased in favour of NLSes, for better or worse.
Furthermore, many private colleges are so unremarkable on the recruitment and also academic front, that we barely ever write about them at all because frankly not very many people seem to care, there isn't easy access to information, and there isn't much of interest ever happening, it seems.
If we had unlimited resources, we'd be chasing every private college for recruitment rankings but as it is, we have to pick and choose. Jindal is now on the recruitment list and we'll certainly also be trying very hard to get their figures next year, hopefully earlier.
Haters will be haters, irrespective of that I do praise you and your teams' efforts for ensuring LI reports as transparently as it is able to. Best wishes for the new year ahead.
Honestly though, not sure if December is a good time. It seems far too late and for the NLSes that all have student-run RCCs, it'll be hard for them to reconstruct the stats once everyone has left college.
Ideally, next year, we can have one cut-off date which is identical for everyone, so all statistics we have are completely on an even footing. Maybe August or so? Any suggestions?
I appreciate your efforts. I wanted to know some of the students you have mentioned have secured fellowships that are mere 1 year fellowships. So will fellowships count as jobs? There are so many colleges where almost 70 to 80 % students get similar unheard law firm jobs. So, are these rankings only for big law schools or other schools would also be included.
However, we hope that next year we can finetune it a bit more, to recognise that a Rhodes scholarship or ivy-league LLM could be as prestitious or hard(er) to get into as a top-tier or international law firm.
Year started:
1. NLSIU B'galore (1987)
2. Nalsar Hyd'd (1998)
3. NLIU Bhopal (1997)
4. NUJS Kolkata (2000)
5. NLU Jodhpur (2001)
6. GNLU (2003)
7. HNLU (2003)
8. NUALS (2005)
9. RGNUL (2006)
10. RMLNLU (2006)
11. NLU Delhi (2008)
12. JGLS Sonepat (2009)
Recruitment Rank:
1. Nalsar Hyd
2. NLSIU B'galore
3. NUJS Kolkata
4. NLU Delhi
5. JGLS Sonepat
6. NLIU Bhopal
7. NLU Jodhpur
8. Below par performers: HNLU, GNLU etc
Among the NLUs, the biggest gainer is NLUD, and the biggest losers are Bhopal and Jodhpur, even though NLUD is not even a part of CLAT while Bhopal and Jodhpur are. As for HNLU, GNLU etc, it has been a
flop. This shows that the age of the institution makes no difference. NALSAR has now overtaken NSLIU.
Kian, I would request you to please investigate this and find out the reasons why certain law schools have declined.
This is the standard of JGLS! If anyone really believes this stats provided by JGLS to LI, then really pity on him/her. NLUs are a standard apart and specially the top 5 along with GNLU. And those who say that NLU Delhi had better placements than NLIU or NLU-J, I would humbly request them to kindly check the RECRUITMENT FIGURES provided by NLU DELHI OFFICIAL WEBSITE and rely on that and then you will see where does NLU Delhi stands in front of the other old NLUs.
Also, Prof Ranbir Singh is the best VC. Please ask students of NLUJ about their current VC.
As for AILET, it is a better test than CLAT. And many people have turned down NLIU and NLUJ for NLUD.
The job market has been flooded by newer NLU graduates and hasn't grown fast enough to offer high-paying jobs to all of them. In addition, many newer NLUs have lacklustre administration that does (or can do) very little to push recruitments without a brandname VC with connections, without good faculty, without money, or without students who can call on alums to help them.
Location is also a huge factor in the rise of NLU Delhi, for example (and for NLU Delhi, perhaps their decision to stay out of the CLAT has helped them too).
JGLS clearly has money and the admin has been working hard to connect the college to industry, through events, lectures, etc, while hiring faculty on high salaries who have connections to the legal industry must have also helped.
What do you think?
Today it is, NALSAR had better placements than NLSIU, tomorrow you'll say JGLS had better placements than NLSIU, and after that, you'll say JGLS had better placements than IIM Ahmedabad in overall India Level! The quality of jobs, if anyone here knows the meaning, does matter, which will not even make JGLS comparable with NLUs and that too with Top 5.
I personally had the rank to get RMLNLU, a friend was getting WBNUJS, another NLU Bhopal, and similar for GNLU, NLU-J, Ranchi,... Perhaps not qualified enough for NLSIU or NALSAR, assuming that we failed CLAT is wrong.
When he is referring to Jugaad the previous comment might have been referring to guys using family influence and power. If that isn't the case, then it is very impressive to have these results from such a young college.
I don't see the value for money in this proposition. Rich people generally have a head start.
Truth: The faculty at JGLS only teach there because of high salaries. If NLUs offer a comparable salary, they will dump JGLS overnight and gladly teach at NLUs. In private they are all loyal to the NLUs they studied in but cannot teach there because salaries are low.
What JGLS says: "Our students are as good as NLU students because they are trained by good faculty"
Truth: Ask any JGLS faculty member in private about what they think of JGLS students.
What JGLS says: "Our students are as good as NLU students because they have got similar placements"
Truth: This happened because of contacts, not merit.
I fully agree. The "stellar" faculty at JGLS consists of many NLU graduates who would happily go back to their alma maters if the pay was remotely close to the market salaries. Their being at JGLS is purely mercenery. The rest of this "stellar" faculty is mostly American scholars in India for 6-9 months who need a base at Delhi and are happy to lend their name in return for an office to work out of.
On top of that the fact remains that it has been students who have been responsible for the reputation of the NLUs. As long as the best students continue to want to go to NALSAR, NLSIU or NUJS no amount of sponsorship will catapault JIGGLES to the top. I have myself spoken to some JGLS faculty and privately they will bemoan the quality of the students as a hurdle to teaching well.
Also why is being rich always synonymous to being a brat. Just because the person is 'rich' and can afford to pay jgls fees, does that automatically mean that he or she is a spoilt brat with a mediocre academic records who ended up chosing jgls because he/ she could not get admission elsewhere. Is it the students fault that his family can afford to pay a high fees for a quality global education? Also, are you conveniently ignoring the fact that almost 50% of the students at JGLS are studying on some or the other kind of Scholarship?
Buddy, wake up and smell the coffee!
Most of the people are on scholarship. I am on 100% waiver, some get 5 lakh off, some 2 lakhs off , some 50k, some less, some more. Only a fraction of students pay the full fee which including dining and lodging charges comes about 6 lakhs pa. Again the fee varies for each batch, and has been increased for successive batches.
Dear Guest you are on 100% fee waiver but have you waived 100% of your brain power also? At least get facts correct about your own colege. Full fee = 7.25 lakhs and not 6 lakhs. Here is the source: www.jgls.edu.in/content/eligibility-and-fees
The 7.25 lac fee has been around for quite a while, about 2 yrs or more. The guy quoting 6 lacs above should know what the exact fee is since that is the subject of debate. The difference is 20% which is not acceptable error
It seems that LI is becoming a mouthpiece of jgls. Also earlier it was published that jgls has the highest female faculty ratio, which was found to be incorrect. LI publishes whatever jgls says and jgls says anything to remain in limelight. It has the audacity to call its exploitatively expensive program- philanthropy!
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Both of them got through NUJS Kolkata. ;p
It is rather unfortunate that comments in LI by many are based upon lack of knowlege and understanding of what it takes to build a world class law school. In fact, Jindal has done everything right whether it is the recruitment of faculty, focus on research, publication record of its faculty members, international collaboratons for students or for that matter the impressive infrastructure (I have not been there, but many friends have visied the Jindal campus and have confirmed that it is truly world class). The growth and achievements of Jindal in five years is truly tranformational and revolutionary. I witnessed last year the Jindal students winning against the Oxford University in the Media Law Moot court orgnanised by the University of Oxford. All this is exceptional achievement and we can only say that the establishmnt and evolution of Jindal augurs well for higher education and legal education.
Congratulations to the faculty, students and staff of Jindal besides its leadership!
NLIU was opened in 1997 and NLUJ in 2001. Why is it not saying, still far behind NALSAR 1998 and NUJS 2000. Also let me tell that no body becomes a world class academic by doing a 365 days course abroad.
The great American and British universities, are now dependent on 4 to 5 times higher fees paid by the students from their former colonies like China, India, Pakistan...etc. It takes a life time to repay the loan taken to study in the Philanthropic American Universities.There are reports that some students had to sell their dignity in order to pay the exorbitant fees in some of the internationally leading institutes.
Please stop following America and think something original. Centuries before Harvard and Stanford we had great universities like Nalanda and Taxila which provided free education and produced the real world class scholars, like Kautilya, Charak, Panini etc. When Bakhtiyar Khilji destroyed the Uni, the library kept on burning for months, which tells about the majesty of the institute. And let me say again the education was FREE. That is- Philanthropy.
Unlike the modern day philanthropy where the students' money is used by the educational institutes to invite Presidents, Prime Ministers and click photographs with them.
One has every right to celebrate his success but not at the cost of others. One may extract whatever fees one can, but then do not call it philanthropy which means PAROPKAR!
Unless you are rolling in dough, I don't see the value for money in this education.
It has already 120 faculty members.
That is also a Private University and proves very well that you need not suck students to make a so called world class institute.
Azim Premji has donated nearly 10k Carore rupees i.e. 2 billion $ for the betterment of Indian education. Know your facts before you say something.
Also Shiv Nadar College of Engineering is there since 1996, much before Jindal, though it started a University in 2011 but that does not mean it is following Jindal. Similarly the idea of Ashoka Universtity was there much before Jindal.
Load of turd.
Harvard JD cost = $80000x 3 yrs = $240000
JiGgLeS Cost = Rs 750000 x 5yrs = Rs 3750000 = $60000
So the difference is 4 times and not 10 times as claimed. Of tis, purchasig power parity will account for some of the difference making Harvard or Yale only twice as expensive as JIGGLES despite being in the top 5 of the world. Does it make sense to pay 25% of Harvard cost for a college which is not even in top 10 of India !??
What is 'down there'? Who is offering the courses?
You sure know a lot despite being an "outsider". Now the guessing game on who these mystery "NLU profs" are continues!!
THAT is why government universities are so superior. Any university which dares not to have these qualities is third-rate.
www.lawctopus.com/sexual-harassment-and-moot-court-selections/
This writer is so biased that he cannot see around him. According to him his favourite institute has a student faculty ratio of 1:15 which only Harvard and Yale can boast. His attempt is to prove his favourite institute comparable to Harvard, Yale etc.
For his kind information, IIT Bombay has student faculty ratio of 1;15, IIT Gauhati 1:13 and newer IITS established about 5-6 years ago 1:2!
Among law schools, NALSAR 1:13.75. But they do not boast about it. Because they have humility.
One of the main reasons for vacancies in Govt. institutes is 27% OBC reservation. Because of which the number of students has gone sharply up but you cannot appoint teachers in bulk. For example in DU law faculty the number went suddenly up by 750 in one batch which means in 3 years around 2200.
I have said the idea of Ashoka university is there much before OP Jindal University (2009). I have not said that the University was established before OPJ. I contested the claim made by the writer that it is “on the lines of” OPJ. Please read properly and do not misguide the readers.
To substantiate my claim, I invite the readers to see The Economic Times 28/10/2014, which says in an article titled- “Ashoka University: A collective effort of 46 philanthropists”. I quote from a paragraph sub heading-
Autonomous Functioning
“All along there was active discussion among the core group of founders on what the university should be and how it should be set up. It started around 2007-08, (which proves my claim) when the global economy was flying, and a small bunch of first generation entrepreneurs and friends got talking. Dhawan and Bhikchandani wanted to set up a world-class liberal-arts college and approached Sinha, who had helped set up Indian School of Business, Hyderabad, in 1996, along somewhat similar lines.”
Thus it is on the lines of ISB not OPJ, which is there since 1996, 13 years before OPJ.
Unlike Jindal University, Ashoka declined huge investment by one investor in order to be democratic and retain autonomy and appointed a Scholar par excellence, Andre Betielle, National Research Professor, its Chancellor not one who had money to invest. So I wonder how is it on the similar lines with Jindal as claimed by the writer?
Azim Premji got the university status in 2010, and OPJ in 2009. It’s ridiculous to argue that they saw OPJ and within a year established a university copying OPJ. The idea must have been there for long and it can be safely presumed that the think tank behind OPJ was not giving the ideas to Azim Premji Foundation which is there since 2001. Therefore pls. do not make a claim that every good private university which got university status after OPJ has followed it. There is something which is called gestation period which can be long in some cases.
My example of Takshashila & Nalanda was brushed aside by saying that they operated in a different era. But the writer wants us to copy the British universities, like Oxford and Cambridge, which were started before Razia Sultan ruled Delhi and American universities, established in the era when Tulsidas wrote Ramcharitmanas. Nalanda was destroyed barely 100 years before Oxford was established.
In those ancient days we made academic institutions, which provided free education, produced scholars who are revered even today and whose majestic infrastructure is a part of folklore. Is it progress to make education more and more expensive or less expensive? Why cannot we do what we were able to do 2000 years ago? Probably because of lack of commitment towards the society and the greed of mankind.
Azim Premji University, a private university is charging a very reasonable fees, 53k for its PG course and 1 lakh for a UG course (per year). It has a world class faculty as well as infrastructure. It’s true that all this requires huge money but Azim Premji shows that a philanthropist would do it from his money, instead of making deep holes into the pocket of students.
This university has already 120 teachers who are highly qualified and second to none. They are not getting a very high salary and the posts are not vacant as the university has only 550 students as of now. Compare the student teacher ratio!
Govt. institutes are also paying good salary. A university teacher gets a salary equivalent to IAS officer and if one has a PH.D. then more than an IAS officer at the first appointment. Now with 1 year LLM program one can become an assistant professor at 23 -24. If at this young age one is getting 50 to 55K in a noble profession like teaching I think it’s good enough. The argument of attracting best brains by paying higher salary is not tenable. A law professor would never be paid what a partner in a law firm would earn. Can we pay to a senior professor what a senior lawyer earns? If money is the reason then best brans will always go to law firms or the bar. A teacher must be paid decently and they are being paid decently since the last pay commission. And in the new it is expected to increase substantially.
If you keep on saying that we need to pay high salary to attract talented teachers, does it mean that the highly talented teachers at jindal are teaching there only for money. I think the teachers there are good academics and are teaching because they like to teach. I do not have anything against anyone associated with OPJ, be it teachers, administration, promoter or of course the beloved students. I wish they all get good jobs. It’s only an ideological difference. My only problem is the exorbitant fees, for a law course, which has set a very wrong precedent, for a country like ours and then calling it philanthropy. Call it business I won’t write any comment. The argument of 75% scholarship is like Indigo, Air Asia and many airlines offering tickets at very concessional rates, that does not make them a philanthropic initiative. Someone with genuine concerns towards education, would try to make it affordable for all and Azim Premji university has proved that without compromising the quality of faculty and infrastructure.
Dear guest, your comments are very nicely written and well thought out. I would like to include my views also.
You say salaries of 50-55k are enough for a young teacher. Let's be pragmatic. IAS job profile is completely different and it makes up for the meagre salary. The issue is how do we attract the good NLU graduates especially those who have LLMs from ivy league colleges abroad. These people would get a job in a law firm without difficulty and earn 1-3 lacs per month. If they are to be tempted to teach they must be paid at least on the lower band of this figure. That is the price to pay for getting good talent. Of course the law school must also crack the whip if they do not perform, like a law firm would. But to expect good people to teach at IAS salary without enjoying IAS perks is stupid. You also must know that to get these "IAS" salaries (of 50-55k) at NLUs faculty have to be NET-qualified which is another bottleneck because the best young teachers today are totally out of sync with that archaic test. For these people the pay that JIGGLES gives is pretty much the base minimum if they are to commit to teaching. Presently there is no practical solution to them going to an NLU to teach which they would happily do so if they got that 1 lac.
I agree with you regarding the absurdity of calling JIGGLES philanthropy. It is anything but that. Lets take some numbers. In a class of 150 students (times 5 batches) at JGLS, the total fee is 150 x 5 x 7 = 5250 lacs or 53 crores. If the fee was reduced to 1.5 lacs, the shortfall would be 150 x 5 x 5.5 = 41 crores. Now if Jindal was truly philanthropic he would contribute that 42 crores from his pocket. 2 yrs ago Naveen Jindal was reported to be the highest-paid CEO with Rs 73 crores plus his profits from shareholding in his company (about Rs 800 crores) which made profit of 1600 crores last year. So out of Rs 900 crore annual profit he cannot contribute 40 crores. Calling this philanthropy is a sham and a scam.
It seems People on this forum have a fascination for the word stupid. My ideas cannot be both- well thought out as well as stupid. Any way that is your choice.
I did not say both are same. My point is in the govt. sector it is a highly paid job.
A professor may not have a Lal Batti but he does not have to find out BUFFALLOS of a minister as well. Teachers have many opportunities e.g. funds from many reputed organisations, publication offers from reputed publishers, guest lectures, visiting faculty at universities abroad, and IRS, IPS and IAS training institutes.
NET is required to be cleared whether you are from Jhumri Taliya Vishwawidyalaya or John Hopkins University unless the institute violates the law even if its a private institute.
Do not ignore the difference between Civil Services exam and NET!
I do not know which law firm in India pays 3 lakhs per month to a fresh LLM.
Dear guest...I have no quarrel with you but to continue this debate...
I did not say you are stupid, only that it was stupid to expect someone to work at IAS salary without IAS perks and profile. I hope you concede that the bootlicking and buffalo-caring is an exception but generally IAS does offer a prestigious profile and a chance to accomplish by 40 what people fail to do at 65. It is not about the lal batti only.
Your point on NET applicability is valid but I meant to say only that NET is more important if you want a career in an NLU. In a private college like JGLS they are free to create all kinds of contractual positions and disregard NET altogether .... and that is what has happened. If you ask around you will realise that barely 2 or 3 faculty at JGLS have NET. I would be surprised if the Director is also NET qualified. But because they are private and do not depend on UGC they maintain a negligible pool of 'permanent faculty' (for whom NET is required). You can easily verify this.
Good law firms will pay 3 lacs plus not for fresh LLMs but for LLMs with 5 years prior workex (Annual pay = 36 lacs which you can easily verify is the consolidated pay at AMSS / AZB for 5yrs+ associate). These people are the ones who are being sought after for teaching at NLUs/JGLS. My point is that they can get 3 lacs plus without any difficulty.
All said and done, government pay scale is emphatically not a good pay scale. It may be OK in a city like Kochi or Chennai but imagine teaching at NLU Mumbai at 50k per month. Rent itself will take 15k out of that. Despite this IAS/IPS tolerate the low pay because they get other stuff in compensation, but just because they tolerate it does not mean that pay scale is acceptable.
Even a private institute is required to follow the regulators guidelines. One must have NET. Private institutes violate the law is a different thing. If you have PhD according to 2009 guidelines then NET is not required.
I agree in metros like Delhi , Mumbai etc 50k is nothing. But if a teacher is given rent free accommodation within the university (they should do that) 50 k is not bad. But I agree not comparable to what one earns in a law firm. but if one has passion for teaching then not bad either.
My point is we can never pay our teacher what they pay in a law firm.
www.guernicamag.com/features/we-call-this-progress/
There’s an iron ore and steel company called Jindal. They have iron ore mines, steel-making plants. The CEO is a member of Parliament. He also started the National Flag Foundation, because he won the right to fly the national flag on his house. They run a global law school just outside Delhi, which is like a Stanford campus in the midst of the most unbelievable squalor you can imagine. They have faculty flown in from all over the world paid huge salaries. They fund and promote cutting-edge artists who work in stainless steel. They recently had a protest workshop where they flew in activists to this unbelievably posh campus and then had protest poetry and protest slogans.
Why have you been so conveniently selective, which makes your claim a complete lie.
She has written a critique "We Call This Progress". Its not about the University but the direction in which the society is moving and she clearly says" It must stop. "IN SO MANY WAYS WE HAVE REGRESSED" That is what she says.
"They own everything;own the resistance, the mines, the Parliament, the flag, the newspapers. They don’t let anything go. These are some simple things that have to stop."
Its a kind of insanity which must stop. That is her conclusion. That what she says.
Any reader can read by clicking the link given above.
Also I quote "Quite often, when you see what is being done to people, it creates rage in you and humiliation if you keep quiet. People ask me why I write, and I say it’s in order to not be humiliated. I don’t write for anything else except to not be humiliated. Every time I write, I keep telling myself that I won’t do it again, but it’s like I can’t contain it inside my body; I write, and it’s a relief."
CLAT aspirants usually place NLSIU above NALSAR and NLUD. But an assessment of the faculty in these places might cause some candidates to rethink this.
your are considering litigation and LLM as recruitment figures.
Wonderful!
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