GNLU has become 'epitome of injustice', says high court in damning verdictGNLU has become 'epitome of injustice', says high court in damning verdict

GNLU Gandhinagar rolled out seats in its second year LLB class, for students of other NLUs, on 24 May but by 7 June, after interested students had already applied for admission the law school rolled back the offer due to objection from the Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) committee.

According to authoritative sources, on 24 May GNLU notified online that it was accepting applications from NLU students for seats which had opened up in its second year LLB class. An online application form to write an exam for selection to GNLU was provided on the law school’s website. Application fee of Rs 1000 was to accompany the application form.

On submitting the online application form and fee, applicants received the following email from GNLU’s admissions office:

Dear Candidate,

As given in instructions your candidature can be considered for admission in III Semester of the 5 year LL.B. (Hons.) Degree Course by way of Inter-NLU Transfer (under the General Category) only on receipt of hard copy of the Admission Form within stipulated time line.

In case you qualify for admission in accordance with the procedure mentioned in instructions, you shall be required to bring the hard copy of the attached Admission Form at the time of taking admission at GNLU. The photocopy of the document(s) attached with the Admission Form will be verified with the original document(s), hence the original document(s) shall be brought at the time of admission.

This email does not confirm your admission or any right whatsoever.

Admission

GNLU

However GNLU soon rolled back its inter-NLU transfer policy, didn’t notify the rollback and its reasons on its website, and by the end of 7 June, all the applicants had received the following email from the law school’s admissions office:

Dear Candidate

In reference to your submission of application for admission into second year of Undergraduate Program against the vacant seats, please be informed that the University will not proceed further as it may create a vacancy in other National Law University. We will return your administration by RTGS/cheque and all documents.

We thank you for your understanding.

Admission GNLU

As mentioned in the email, the rollback was because such transfers would create vacancies in the NLUs from which the applicants were transferring to GNLU.

Prof Paramjit Jaswal – the vice chancellor of CLAT 2016 convenor RGNUL Patiala – told Legally India that he had written, on behalf of the CLAT core committee, to GNLU director Bimal Patel “a few days ago” to remind him that inter-NLU transfers were not permissible under the CLAT which is only an exam for first-year LLB and LLM admissions to NLUs. Jaswal said that since Patel was also a part of the core committee – which is comprised of the vice chancellors of the 16 NLUs which are a part of CLAT – he should follow the CLAT admission rules, and that after his email Patel rolled back the offered seats.

One applicant told Legally India that they had lost money in booking flights and hotel stay in Gandhinagar for the dates of the inter-NLU transfer exam scheduled by GNLU.

Patel did not respond to an email for comment.

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Like +0 Object -0 Gnlu follower 13 Jun 16, 17:30
Cochin did the same many times why clat didnt object, why LI didnt wrote. Gnlu keep on progress. Your good students and well wishers are with you.
Best wishes
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Like +3 Object -1 Hitler 13 Jun 16, 21:07
LI "didn't worte" because it was busy correcting grammar.
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Like +9 Object -0 Scooter- 13 Jun 16, 18:52  interesting
Dude kian- really not liming the new layout. seems like ive landed onto the classifieds of times of india! can find jack shit here! not cool
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Like +1 Object -0 kianganz 13 Jun 16, 19:02
Hehe, really, that bad? Please can you share more details on what exactly you don't like?
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Like +2 Object -0 Scooter- 13 Jun 16, 20:05
what i dont like is that there is just too many things happening! i get lost. The thing is if you move from a horizontal slab to a vertical coloumn slab, there is a lot of stuff happening in your viewing area. Most people are used to reading left to right which in this case shifts to a different story.

I had a while back also commented on top news boxes which dont have enough contrast to be able to read the headlines.

the earlier layout was much better in my view. This is, pardon me for using a strong word- slightly jarring.

Hoping you do something about it.

Thanks!
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Like +0 Object -0 kianganz 13 Jun 16, 20:22
Thanks, appreciate feedback, will take under advisement... It's funny, some people hated the old layout very passionately! Will see if we can revert or come up with some compromise that will make everyone happy (spoiler: unlikely :)
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Like +1 Object -0 Hitler 13 Jun 16, 21:08
Seriously scooter. English.
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Like +1 Object -0 Bike 14 Jun 16, 10:37
I agree with Scooter. The previous layout allowed us to see each headline properly. The new layout is too jumbled and appears disorganized, even though it may not actually be so. It is very easy to miss a headline or a news in this new design. Also, it looks really tacky. The earlier one was rather sophisticated.
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Like +0 Object -0 kianganz 14 Jun 16, 10:39
Hi - thanks for sharing... Is this morning's tweak slightly better? Have changed it so there's less information visible at once on the homepage and it's less jumbled...

Appreciate that you found the earlier layout "rather sophisticated" though, didn't realise people liked it... :)
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Like +0 Object -0 Bike 14 Jun 16, 17:24
I personally still like the old version better, maybe because I have grown accustomed to it. The tweaked version is definitely better for the top headlines. As for each news article that appears as you scroll down, it still looks off. That may be because a lot of space is being left blank to the right. Maybe you could expand the news blocks, if we could call them that, to occupy a larger area of the page so that it does not appear disorganized? And maybe making the background of the page a little darker?
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Like +0 Object -0 @ Scooter- 17 Jun 16, 16:24 LI subscriber
I agree with you, but the double-spacing is really nice. Also, why not make your point in a more polite and dignified manner?
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Like +0 Object -8 Guest 13 Jun 16, 18:56
This is shameful reporting by Legally India. Mr Kian has a personal grudge so he is targeting GNLU. Why are you turning a blind eye to the misdeeds of Prof Rao at NLSIU? And how much coverage did you give to the fact that the students and alumni of NUJS wrote a petition seeking the removal of Prof Bhat? It has never happened before in history!
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Like +7 Object -0 kianganz 13 Jun 16, 19:01  interesting
Please share more details, would be delighted to cover those... What misdeeds do you mean? And when did students and alumni write a petition to remove Prof Bhat?

In any case, before you shout grudge, these are factual events that have actually happened very recently and have affected at least a handful of students quite badly. This is news, whether it's GNLU or anyone else.
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 13 Jun 16, 19:12
http://www.legallyindia.com/201401104235/Law-schools/alumni-seek-cji-intervention-in-nujs-administration

Covered by Legally India.
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Like +3 Object -1 kianganz 13 Jun 16, 21:13
Indeed, thanks for sharing - I thought the angry commenter meant some more recent letter that we missed.

The NUJS VC obviously also has his faults, but as far as I know, no high court judge has called him an oligarch. And while NUJS may be a bit opaque with respect of their Day Zero recruitments, at least unlike GNLU, NUJS does not publish a propaganda press release showing only the top 20 placements or so (in a batch of more than 150).

Also, you'll be hard pressed to find another NLU as GNLU where so many alumni are scathing about the administration and its policies...
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Like +0 Object -0 Hitler 13 Jun 16, 21:09
I think Kian has grudge against all law schools :D
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Like +1 Object -0 kianganz 13 Jun 16, 21:16
Yay, spot on, that's pretty much correct :)

However, it's hard bearing a grudge against some law schools because very few bad things (or, in some cases, very few remarkable things) happen at some...
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Like +1 Object -2 Neutral Observer 14 Jun 16, 01:01
Well, from GNLUs perspective, this seems a way lesser evil than giving admission to people with CLAT ranks of 3000 plus to GNLU (possibly amongst the top 7 law schools in India), through shady means, to fill the vacancies.

Such people have a relatively lower aptitude than their peers, and often do not act as assets to the university, instead tend to lower its talent pool (eg. a recent controversial case where GNLU has been called a human rights violating oligarchy by the hon'ble High Court of Gujarat, in a case filed by a student, who got admission to GNLU at 23,654 CLAT-2013 rank!! He failed miserably in many subjects, and was giving the 3rd or 4th repeat of the same exam, and was about to get an year back, with multiple disciplinary measures against him - wouldn't it be better if this seat were given to a deserving student through merit, who would actually make better use of the resources available, and not waste them?)

What's the point in giving admission to such people? How is he contributing to the university in any way? Perhaps he's justifying his admission by crusading for the rights of other students, for which I salute him.
I'm sure he will free GNLU from this oligarchy, though may martyr himself in the process, either due to his own incompetency or because of Bimpas cruelty. He is also a great philanthropist, as he'll end up paying a fee of around Rs. 40 lakh to GNLU in 5 years, which would help get better resources for other meritorious students who are assets to the university.

But in any case, the same can't be said for most other students in his category (CLAT AIR 3000+), who are just leeches to prestigious universities, draining their resources.

But again, poaching from other prestigious universities can't be permitted.

Bimpa, one evil can't be justified by others.
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Like +0 Object -6 Guest 14 Jun 16, 10:21
Under leadership of Professor Patel GNLU has become #4 in India Today ranking and in future will become #1. GNLU has world class faculty and administration. GNLU got "A" grade from government of India (NAAC) because of strength of faculty. 99% of students of GNLU is completely happy with faculty and administration. All this negative comments is by 1% frustrated students who is coming last in class. They complain that they want GNLU alumnis as faculty. Then go to third-rate Jindal law school which hires useless alumnis of GNLU.
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Like +0 Object -0 Vada 16 Jun 16, 16:53
You called them "useless" alumni. I call you, useless for ruining law for GNLU students. Almost every college gets an A grade. Heck even CNLU got an A grade!
You're the one who's frustrated for doing so well in life.
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Like +2 Object -0 In reply to guest 14 Jun 16, 10:34
not exactly true my friend....as far as I have heard, an alumnus came and gave interview but was not selected for Assistant Prof.....later he got selected in NLSIU as Assistant Prof.....God only knows who gained and who lost.....
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Like +1 Object -0 Outsider 14 Jun 16, 11:57
Are you referring to a contractual position at NLSIU? Because insofar as my memory serves, NLSIU has not had a permanent position filled since 2007. If this is true, then Prof. Venkatarao must be turning over a new leaf!
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Like +0 Object -0 True 20 Jun 16, 22:20
I can confirm that this is true. Also, I know of some alums who wanted to take guest lectures but really could not be bothered navigating through the red tape and the insecurities of SOME of the resident faculties.
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Like +3 Object -0 FYI 14 Jun 16, 12:14
Damn! No one figured it out yet? Guest is actually Patel :D
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Like +0 Object -2 Guest 14 Jun 16, 12:29
Kian instead of portraying the complainant as an angel you should look into how a person with such a low rank can gain admission at an NLU when thousands with higher ranks are excluded. This has also happened as NALSAR, in the early years. For me this is the real scam.
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Like +1 Object -0 kianganz 14 Jun 16, 12:36
Agree, we are looking into it but it's a little more difficult to get to the bottom to...
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Like +2 Object -0 Outsider 16 Jun 16, 15:52
Even if the complainant did get through some backdoor, won't that reflect more badly on the administration than him?
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Like +1 Object -0 Litigator 16 Jun 16, 00:02
I think the inter-NLU transfer scheme is a good idea, and I wish it would have been there when I was a student at GNLU...I even wrote to other NLUs requesting transfer only to be told very politely that CLAT doesn't allow it. I somehow survived that miserable place, but I wish there was a way students could procedurally get a transfer. Every batch that graduates does not survive with its full batch...usually somewhere around 10-15 students every batch leave without completing their course...I don't think it's fair that these seats go empty when there are qualified candidates who would wish to take them up. The only objectors would possibly be the existing batch, who would probably not welcome a "new" batch mate shortly after getting used to their existing ones, but that's hardly a reason to disallow it. Of course, some standards should be laid down for allowing such transfers, such as minimum CLAT rank and marks obtained prior to application for transfer, but it should be allowed.
Sorry for the long rant, but this has been on my mind since I was in college days.
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Like +0 Object -0 Outsider 16 Jun 16, 15:54
I think the NLUs from where the students are leaving to join others would also have an issue, since they lose out on 3-4 years' fees. Some NLUs being almost entirely self-financed, that can be quite a considerable loss.
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 16 Jun 16, 10:45
What happened to LI's faculty ranking of NLUs?
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