GNLU registrar allegedly goes undercover to discover drugsGNLU registrar allegedly goes undercover to discover drugs

GNLU Gandhinagar’s administration allegedly accessed the private phone records of several students of the law school, after it suspected them of possessing marijuana on campus.

According to the accounts of several GNLU students not directly involved in the episode, one faculty member had discovered an unclaimed packet of marijuana in one of the classrooms around 3 weeks ago.

Following this discovery, GNLU registrar Thomas Mathew searched multiple rooms in the campus hostels and allegedly eventually seized a quantity of marijuana.

Students said that in his search of the hostels, Mathew confiscated the mobile phones of at least two students, accessing WhatsApp conversation threads, and impersonating the owner of one phone to message a WhatsApp group, in order to uncover evidence of marijuana possession.

Since Tuesday, we have sent Mathew several messages reiterating the above allegations and have put in several calls for comment by phone. He confirmed receipt of the messages, but ignored all phonecalls.

GNLU’s track record on respecting students' and staff's basic rights in the guise of enforcing discipline and security, as well as on transparency, has been abysmal, with the Gujarat high court having already officially declared the law school as a human rights violating oligarchy in 2016.

Since then, circumstances at the law school don't seem to have changed much in this respect, with complaints of unfairness and arbitrary action often coming up.

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Like +5 Object -0 Diogenes 04 Sep 17, 18:23  interesting
inb4 GNLU peeps questioning why LI hasn't covered other Law Schools
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Like +3 Object -1 Alumnus 04 Sep 17, 18:49
Don't think they'll mind this one lol. But if universities are regularly engaging in forcible intrusion into personal communications, hope this is a good start to wider publicity of such practices.
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Like +37 Object -3 NLU Stud 04 Sep 17, 18:47  interesting  top rated
I wouldn't be shocked if they found some at Bimal Patel's residence.
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Like +1 Object -39 Guest 05 Sep 17, 09:16  troll?
Shame on you. Prof Bimal Patel is a legal luminary and eminent jurist. I request the moderator to delete such slanderous comments.
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Like +15 Object -2 Legal luminary LOL 05 Sep 17, 10:44  interesting  top rated
Hahahahahahhahahahahahah legal luminary it seems. The man can't string a sentence together. His PIL classes are the worst I've ever attended.
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Like +13 Object -0 Alumni 05 Sep 17, 11:07  interesting  top rated
'Legal Luminary and eminent jurist', since when?
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Like +5 Object -1 Pimal Batel 05 Sep 17, 13:09
He should represent the nation at ICJ!
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Like +7 Object -0 Anti-Guest 05 Sep 17, 15:02  interesting
"Legal luminary and eminent jurist"

Looks like you had some of the marijuana that Thomas "The [...]" Matthew "confiscated".

You clearly don't now what's what, now do you?
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Like +2 Object -0 Hold on! 05 Sep 17, 16:50
Legal luminaries can be smokers too! Next you will say that Sigmund Frued and Lweis Caroll were non-geniuses. History is replete with examples of junkies (alcohol, heroin, grass, cocaine, etc) being at the forefront of discovery! Maybe your beloved professor could have been one of them, but then he isn't? Right?
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Like +4 Object -1 NLU Stud 06 Sep 17, 23:50
Stop propagating the use of Marijuana. Looks like you are one of the students from GNLU hiding marijuana in his room.
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Like +6 Object -0 randomly 05 Sep 17, 16:58  interesting
You forgot 'doctor'. He is neither a legal luminary or an eminent jurist. I've known a few, and to a fault the club of legal luminaries and jurists are liberals, some with very vocal opinions on marijuana.
As an alumni, the only time GNLU makes us proud is when the students go out and achieve something somewhere. Anything we hear about the administration is only a source of embarrassment. The administration's shallow attempts at working a PR machine on LI comment pages causes further embarrassment because of how transparent and crude it is.
If you are going to be backward 'legal luminaries and eminent jurists' at least do it with a semblance of competence, if not style.
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Like +2 Object -0 GNLU Alumnus 04 Sep 17, 19:09
Thomas Mathew is such a [...]. I hope he [...]
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Like +14 Object -1 Dr P 04 Sep 17, 19:22  interesting  top rated
Why is Pinku still the registrar?! He is not even a law graduate and [...] "Physics" too! What's wrong with the students? Wish the students could be as assertive as we were in our time.

Dr P
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Like +1 Object -7 Guest 05 Sep 17, 09:18
For kind information registrar is administrative post not law professor post. In fact physics degree is better suited as it shows scientific bent.
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Like +0 Object -0 Pimal Batel 05 Sep 17, 13:10
Wow, you seem to have smoked some.
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Like +9 Object -2 ... bimpa 04 Sep 17, 19:27  interesting
Disgusting behavior by college administration. No regard for privacy of students.
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Like +4 Object -7 Guest 05 Sep 17, 09:16
Rather disgusting behavior from you to support drugs usage.
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Like +14 Object -24 Pinku 04 Sep 17, 19:43  controversial
So does Legally India now support the illegal consumption of marijuana just because there's no other opportunity left to attack the GNLU administration? What shows the sheer desperation is how in every article related to GNLU they'll provide links to older articles putting down the University. Come on Kian and Prachi, don't you have something better to report on or are you huge fans of the weed available at GNLU.
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Like +5 Object -3 Guest 04 Sep 17, 20:29
There is something called due process. The way the uni went about this was completely arbitrary and illegal. Nothing empowers the uni admin to seize students phones and scrutinize it's contents without the consent of the students.
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Like +6 Object -1 Prakshep 04 Sep 17, 22:58  interesting
It is not the use of marijuana that is being condoned. This article points out the blatant violation of constitutional and statutory provisions of the law by the registrar/administration of a 'law school'.
Then again, pinku never did study the law, poor guy.
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 04 Sep 17, 20:06
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Like +10 Object -1 IloveyouKian 04 Sep 17, 20:55  interesting
LI becoming the TMZ of legal journalism in India. On a side note, some coverage of the happenings at RMLNLU would do no wrong.
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Like +2 Object -4 kianganz 05 Sep 17, 11:44
Don't fret, we were just doing some reporting on it yesterday actually, trying to get some details beyond what's already been reported in the mainstream media... There should be a story out later today. :)
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Like +9 Object -5 GNLUite 04 Sep 17, 21:05  controversial
Finally Legally India comes up with something which is in favour of GNLU. We the students of GNLU love using marijuana and the administration is just creating hurdles for us. It is completely our personal choice if we want to smoke weed in class or not. And confiscating mobiles in his search is a sheer violation of the right to privacy on part of the Registrar. Kudos to Kian for bringing this up. I assure you we'll provide you with a huge stash of marijuana if you're in these parts anytime and as everyone knows it is the real deal.
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Like +8 Object -22 GNLU community 04 Sep 17, 22:53  controversial
We support Honble VC and administration for taking action against immoral activities and serious offences. To protect reputation of the college such students should be rusticated. It is shocking to see some people defend heinous acts like drug use. Next you will support terrorism.
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Like +12 Object -0 Really? 05 Sep 17, 02:26  interesting  top rated
Because it's only a short step from smoking a blunt to going on a shooting spree *slow clap*
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Like +0 Object -0 Officer on Special Duty 17 Sep 17, 10:25
Corruption is also a heinous activity. I hope GNLU administration will work to prevent corruption also.
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Like +4 Object -1 Alias 04 Sep 17, 23:19
Does LI support the use of such things in Universities/colleges and schools? Due respect to privacy.... authorities should bring such things into the notice of law enforcement agencies immediately.
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Like +2 Object -0 Wow 05 Sep 17, 15:17
I agree, and without trying to "investigate" on their own.
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Like +6 Object -1 Pi 04 Sep 17, 23:56  interesting
not for the first time I am in two minds, I support right to privacy but I also support the fact that authorities need to stop flow of drugs in the campus and deal severely with offenders. it is alleged that an administrator used a students phone to impersonate the student to adduce evidence of wrongdoing. did the registrar ask for the students permission? or was it necessitated by urgency that the registrar has to impersonate? was it done over a period of time or was it done immediately, lot of questions need to be asnwered before we can come to any conclusion
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Like +3 Object -1 Guest 05 Sep 17, 00:33
Just shows LI's bias. One of the biggest law school scams rocks RNLU and gets reported in MSM, but LI prefers to focus on a small matter at GNLU.
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Like +0 Object -0 Officer on Special Duty 17 Sep 17, 10:23
Define small.

Travesty of justice. :/
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Like +4 Object -7 Fiscal Conservative 05 Sep 17, 00:58
Shut Down these NLU's and give the money to the University Law Colleges. For one NLU we can upgrade 3-4 good law colleges attached to the major State Universities. Their graduates at least go on to litigate in the district courts of the states where they studied.
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Like +1 Object -0 DownWithBimPa 05 Sep 17, 08:23
Yo, a small correction in your facts - marijuana (apart from the packet found in the class) was not seized. Pinku didn't find anything concrete when he checked students hostel rooms (while the students were in class, might I add)
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Like +23 Object -0 Arbitration_Bhaiya 05 Sep 17, 10:49  interesting  top rated
Ganja National Law University. Bum Bum Bhole !!
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Like +1 Object -0 heera panna 05 Sep 17, 12:46
hahaha! this is hilarious!
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Like +4 Object -0 Rational GNLUite 05 Sep 17, 15:16
Okay. Firstly, this is not about supporting drug usage. If you haven't caught anyone with drugs directly, you can't create a trap and then go on to use someone else's phone to impersonate that person. If this went to court, even if the drugs was found, the evidence would automatically be deemed inadmissible on the grounds that it was illegal.

You can't do something illegal to deal with something that is illegal. If the search was conducted legally and in an orderly fashion, and drugs were found, then that is absolutely fine!

Please use your head before commenting on an issue without delving into it.
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Like +1 Object -0 Former student 05 Sep 17, 16:21
I don't support use of drugs. Why is he even on campus, let alone as a registrar, he was the [...] staff member in college!!! a. he teaches science in a law school b. he used to tell [...] to come after class to the science lab in the erstwhile campus, in case they had doubts (so I had heard from credible sources who didn't bother to get their doubts cleared)
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Like +0 Object -0 GNLU Alum 06 Sep 17, 00:30
when will the admin at GNLU change and learn to leave the kids alone. The registrar is the worst of the worst. I thought this will change for the good but after many years.. still the same
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Like +4 Object -0 PILclasssucked 06 Sep 17, 00:34
I go to GNLU. I've seen numerous people face the infamously arbitrary disciplinary actions of GNLU. The process of investigation, of a committee hearing is a sham. However, even after the patently illegal process of investigation, GNLU will presume guilt. Decisions are made on how much influence you can wield over the heads of Bimal Patel and Thomas Matthew. They're made without compassion, with no goal of reformation and without transparency. GNLU's idea of morality is flawed, but more so is their outrageous way of imposing this morality in a manner that routinely violates the rights of its students.
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Like +6 Object -1 PILclasssucked 06 Sep 17, 00:40  interesting
To the people who seem concerned about the problem of use of drugs on campus. GNLU's moral policing extends to more that drugs. It extends to alcohol, consensual PDA, consensual sex, restrictions on entry timings etc. I assure you, GNLU has no concern for student well being, if they did, they would not take incredible amounts of sadistic joy in suspending students and making them repeat a year for smoking some pot. All GNLU cares about is some weird notion of justice that's so contrary to everything that we're taught in law schools it's ironic and rather hilarious, if you can get over the tragedy.
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Like +1 Object -0 Amen to this comment 07 Sep 17, 08:54
We really need to do something about this DisCo, but everyone is too scared that GNLU will mess with our careers. Is this fair? At all?
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Like +2 Object -1 Guest 06 Sep 17, 10:10
Respect to all the other commenters. Your unity is appealing.
The Uni PR guys are hilarious though!

The 'quantity of marijuana' was seized way before the impersonation even happened. After the seizure of the phone and shooting texts to other students to find more, the college was left disappointed as it turns out that the under-qualified, desk jockey turn detective admins of the college were dealing with students who were more than a few shades smarter than what they were expecting.
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Like +0 Object -0 Rational GNLUite 06 Sep 17, 10:37
Can't say I'm surprised, there.
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Like +1 Object -8 Guest 06 Sep 17, 21:48
Friends, please do not be fooled by malicious comment of few slanderers. I assure you that GNLU is world-class university ranked #2 by India Today. Shri Narendra Modiji himself has expressed appreciation for good work by Prof Bimal Patel. Even in IIT there is strict discipline. Barring few everyone wholly support disciplinary action against drug abusers and those doing immoral relationships to maintain decorum and decency.

Kindly also note that privacy is not absolute right and criminals like drug trafficker cannot get protection.
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Like +1 Object -0 WAAAWWW 07 Sep 17, 00:01
LOL. So you have already assumed that the concerned students are 'criminals like drug traffickers'?? WAAWWWW
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Like +4 Object -1 Let me school you 07 Sep 17, 09:02
This is the funniest and most ridiculous comment I have ever read.
1. #2 by India Today? The biggest scam of rank lists? This means NOTHING!
2. Who cares if Modi appreciates us? Is he a student here? Is he exposed to the arbitrary and cruel world of the GNLU admin?
3. Do IITs have moral policing?
4. Wtf do you mean by immoral relationships? EVERYONE IN GNLU IS AN ADULT! IT IS ALL CONSENSUAL. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
5. Who is trafficking drugs? Hahahaha this is so stupid.
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Like +3 Object -1 WAAAWWW 06 Sep 17, 23:59
Drugs in Campus should be prevented. But use legitimate means to do so!! A Registrar of a National Law University cannot resort to means which are outside the ambit of law!!
Maybe the authorities need to attend some law classes themselves!! And a science graduate as the Registrar of a National Law University?? Seriously?? Get someone who has read the law, else such blunders will keep happening. Actually its not his fault, the real problem is Dr. Pimal Batel. He is the real Stud.
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Like +2 Object -0 Government1 08 Sep 17, 18:57
There are so much complaint against Bimal Patel, but no one is interested in GNLU all are wating for completion of term of Bimal Patel.

This will end the rule of King and Queen.

His wife have again started to come in GNLU.

Is this something to do with drugs found on campus.

Don't know by what authority she visits the campus.

Ms. Rajnika Patel is the real danger to future of GNLU.
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Like +2 Object -0 Richa_Rocky 07 Sep 17, 13:07
Love you Pinku for your out of the box thinking.
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Like +1 Object -2 Guest 08 Sep 17, 18:22
I think GNLU has become the University where every decision is arbitrary.
It's looks like the philosophy of Hitler is truly practised.

No law in law University.

Same Thomas don't have qualifications to be registrar.

Bimal is not qualified to be Director.

Why legally India is not investigating this news.

Please save law University.
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Like +0 Object -0 Officer on Special Duty 17 Sep 17, 10:13
I believe the concerned students may approach the High Court as soon as possible. This incident, prima facie, seems to be one where the State of Gujarat acting through Mr. Thomas bhai has violated the Right to Privacy of students, provided the incidents stated are correct. Even though apprehension of drug possession is a reasonable suspicion enough to initiate investigation, the method of inquiry is totally unjustified.

Last I checked, the convenor of Disciplinary Committee was a constitutional law faculty. Perhaps some lessons and a few "logical" lectures will be of great help.
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Like +0 Object -0 Officer on Special Duty 17 Sep 17, 10:22
I believe the concerned students should approach the Gujarat High Court asap. Prima facie, this seems to be a violation of right to privacy by Thomas ji acting as State. If the incident and facts stated above are true, I am sure even the alumni will be ready to take up the case pro bono.

Last I checked, the convenor of disciplinary committee was a constitutional law faculty. Perhaps a few lessons and lectures may help everyone understand the issue better.

Also, a report was tabled by CAG before Gujarat Assembly regarding financial irregularities in fee collection. If any supporters of the administration will bear the pain of clarifying their stand, I shall stand immensely grateful.
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