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NLSIU Bangalore placed 24 out of 80 fourth year students on 20 April 2013 including 11 pre-placement offers(PPOs). Two independent offers from McKinsey & Co were made in addition to those.

A total of 21 ‘day zero’ campus offers to start work in 2014 came from law firms Luthra & Luthra (8 campus offers), Trilegal (5), Amarchand Mangaldas (4), AZB & Partners (2), and Khaitan & Co (2), according to legal website Bar & Bench, with AZB and Khaitan having recruited entirely through PPOs.

A total of 50 students who had subscribed to the college placement process. Students have also secured three London internships each with Allen & Overy and Herbert Smith Freehills. NLSIU’s RCC has not been reachable for comment by Legally India.

NLU Jodhpur’s day zero was four days before NlSIU’s on 16 April, placing 14 students.

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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 12:59
check with nujs? i heard they got 11 individual jobs on their day zero (concluded last weekend). and they had 12 ppos before that already. so that takes nujs to 23 placements already. not as good from nls, given that the rcc subscription is also more than theirs. but definitely second besting the placement circuit as far as current figures go.

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Recommend! +11 Objection! -3 kianganz 2013-05-07 13:13  interesting
NUJS RCC is under some rather ridiculous gag order by the admin or its members or some such nonsense.

Rather amusing how some law schools are insisting on becoming worse at PR and less transparent than most law firms.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -1 @ Kian 2013-05-08 12:15
Kian, NLU Jodhpur does not have concepts like Day Zero, Recruitment Week, RCC, etc.

NLU always had a "rolling recruitment" spread out over a few months. The wisdom of this may be doubted, and some firms may be pushing for Day Zero and Recruitment Week, but NLU's policy is what some people view as the factor which helped NLU buck the trend in 2009 - a year in which recruitment was slow.

Unfortunately (or not), recruitment is managed by a faculty body with administrative staff i.e. no RCC. Of course, there are professional issues when faculty deals with recruitment, but most regular recruiters have come to grips with it by now.

As I have said before, law aspirants rely on LI and similar sources when choosing a law school and you should take care in providing a correct view.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ex-Jodhpur 2013-05-09 11:19
@comment above mine - NLUJ has a Day Zero policy now. It began with the recruitment of the batch of 2011.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ex-Jodhpur 2013-05-09 11:20
sorry, I meant with the batch of 2012*.
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Recommend! +3 Objection! -2 Observer 2013-05-07 13:38
Now that's a "slap" on LI's face. Wonder who's behind it.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 15:23
As far as I know. NUJS students got 11 jobs on day zero and had 14 PPO's, taking the total up to 25 placed.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -4 kianganz 2013-05-07 15:34
Do you or anyone else happen to know the NUJS breakdown between firms on day zero?

Since almost all other colleges are somewhat forthcoming about their data, it's rather unfair and short-sighted for one such as NUJS to try to hide theirs to retain some perceived advantage against future recruiters, by trying to 'hide' the fact that some of the existing batch has already been hired.

Then again, this attitude is nothing new, as it has been an issue we've had with NUJS' RCC for the past few years.

Also deserving of major naming and shaming by the way, since we're on the subject: GNLU, whose final recruiters figures were terrible last year, basically didn't share anything but for some generic puffy PR hotchpotch that they expected us to publish.

My appeal - if you are a student at any of those colleges and have some more accurate information or feel the RCC's or admins are trying to game the system, please let us know.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -4 Guest 2013-05-07 16:07
So what if NUJS does want to keep the information private till the process is over? It is their right. At the end of the year, all the data is disclosed, so its not like they don't disclose data, but they just chose when to.
It is "ridiculous" of you to expect NUJS to disclose the data, just because the other colleges are!
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Recommend! +16 Objection! -5 kianganz 2013-05-07 16:17  interesting  controversial
To me it seems like NUJS just want to have their cake and eat it too.

On the one hand, law students clamour that the industry is not transparent, that law firms have too powerful bargaining positions, and that law schools are run non-transparently.

On the other hand, they want only good publicity for a college and to avoid any negative news being reported (such as teachers slapping students, or others in other colleges), and to absolutely control the time and place and manner in which they disclose information about their recruitment because of some misguided notion it will hurt their chances.

This information is important and of benefit to not just for a few top law schools but actually to the entire profession and other colleges in planning their careers, recruitment etc.

For NUJS to force us to jump through hoops every year to get some data, which is basically available from the law firms anyway and isn't some big state secret, I would maintain is ridiculous, frankly.

If you disagree, please also accept that it is law firms' right to bully RCCs, it is the right of seniors to pay juniors whatever they want at the bar, and it is better if everyone were secretive about everything in the industry and was not written about.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 17:05
Brilliant! well put. If you don't treat employers properly (being secretive) don't be surprised when they mistreat your RCC and college.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 17:11
Quoting kianganz:


For NUJS to force us to jump through hoops every year to get some data, which is basically available from the law firms anyway and isn't some big state secret, I would maintain is ridiculous, frankly.




So there you go! If NUJS does not give its data, someone else has the data. So you do have Access to it. Just because NUJS isn't disclosing it shouldn't be holding you back now, should it?!
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 Curious 2013-05-07 18:36
So whats your agenda? To report stories or reform the legal sector in India? Just curious.

Also, whats the link between powerful law firms and non revealation of information BY NUJS? How does this action of NUJS (silly as it is) make law firms more powerful. Apples and oranges?
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 @ Kian 2013-05-08 12:21
Just publish a story every year saying NUJS figures have not been disclosed but a couple of firms (choose Tier 2 firms, PSUs, etc.) have confirmed 4-5 offers. Students will pour in comments with all facts and figures - thus, NUJS will jump through hoops :)

Btw, as you know, it is widely accepted that firms will abuse their superior bargainning power and senior lawyers will pay peanuts to juniors. But then, firms' egos must be satisfied, and seniors often hire juniors who they do not want for anything more than running around courts to keep an eye on the docket.
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Recommend! +5 Objection! -0 KIAN KILL 2013-05-07 17:04  interesting
Ladies and gents, give it up for Kian the Destroyer!

Fess up Noojies.
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Recommend! +5 Objection! -1 alum 2013-05-07 17:13
@kian - I get that you're trying to do what you think is right by your job. If what you say is true, which I have no way of ascertaining, I do think the kids are well within their right to do what they think is right by their job. So, what really is the issue here? It's okay for you to disagree with them, but I'm taken aback by you taking to the comments section here to attack and shame them. Coming on too strong, and this seems uncalled for and I do think an apology is in order. They are in no manner obligated to share any information with you, but they would in due time I suppose. Volunteering information in good faith is the key, not bullying the kids for information. If there's a delay, you have the right to be unhappy but certainly not to attack them. This seems unprofessional.
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Recommend! +5 Objection! -1 Question 2013-05-07 17:39
Why does everyone who reads LI treat those in law schools as spineless babies?

NUJS can hold their own! Stop berating someone having a discussion with them for bullying them.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -6 kianganz 2013-05-07 17:46
This is not about a delay - for the past few years, as far as I understand it, it has been a deliberate policy of the RCC of NUJS not to disclose the information, forcing us to waste the time of recruiters in asking them for data, and to waste our time piecing together what should be pretty uncontroversial information...

I believe this is ridiculous and similar to the 'what happens in college, stays in college' mindset that many students feel is their duty to protect but that ensures a 'black box' and unaccountable culture continues propagating at places of legal education, to a certain extent, across subjects such as ragging, administration, academic problems and so on.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -1 chacha 2013-05-07 18:26
Noojies should not hesitate in sharing information with Kian, who can be requested to follow the LI policy applicable for the big firms as per which take the consent of the concerned firm before you publish any news regarding them. Remember Chomsky on independence of Free Media.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 18:33
And if I understand it correctly, the RCC at the end of the year discloses the entire details of the process for the entire year. Please do correct me if i'm wrong here.
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Recommend! +8 Objection! -3 Weepy 2013-05-07 18:34  interesting
Kian - you hold yourself out to be a journalist not an activist. So instead of whining, go out, get facts and report. Many a times journalists are confronted by lack of information - journalism is about finding the facts irrespective of whether or not the subject matter of the story cooperates or not. They dont rant on public formums that so and is not cooperating sob sob. So instead of ranting, whining and crying, and encouraging your blood thirsty "commentators" (the minority, but vocal readers of LI) to spew venom, go out and do your job. Stop trying to create a movement to make your job easy.
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Recommend! +9 Objection! -1 nujie baba 2013-05-07 20:12  interesting
So One, lets get this straight. I AM a noojie, directly interested in the current RCC process. But i have absolutely no qualms confirming the information posted in comment no. 1.

Two. Kian, you will appreciate that the reason the NUJS RCC does this is since we are an overcautious lot. and rightly so. despite consistently sharing space with the top tier law schools in India, we tend to sometimes face a problem because of geographical, strategic as well as logistical reasons, not to forget the largest intake in the better ranked law schools. So we try and negate any possibility of an externality affecting the recruitment process, especially concerning tier 2 law firms.

Three, and from here on, NUJS RCC, this goes directly to you. I think it far too childish for you to think that word doesn't get around, no matter how much you try and prevent it. Its not as if potential recruiters will not be aware before/during their screening process at NUJS, that some considerable amount of talent has already been recruited. And its further illogical to assume that non day-zero firms expect to be offered the best talent via campus recruitment when they don't match competitive pay packages.

Four, even if you have merit in your apprehensions, the market for ppo-s and campus recruitment tends to differ in terms of firm appetite, salary, need, etc. Disclosure of such ppo-related info is unlikely to do anything with respect to campus recruitments since as we've seen, some firms offer ppo-s as well as campus offers.

Five, if you think second tier law firms will feel dissed that all good talent has already been taken, then with this policy prevailing since a few years now, why is it that after all other law schools release their day zero figures, these so called second tier firms dont jump to us and recruit the rest of the lot? it clearly doesnt work this way.

Most importantly, if at all you think firms are going to decide their recruitment policies based on what they read in legally india ( and i dont think so, no offence Kian), the most probable effect, assuming one exists, is only going to be positive. Releasing figures can help further recruitment for the remaining subscribers in the batch. I'm certain you will understand that these figures also bear a symbolic relevance in the industry, indicative of the general perception of the talent in the current batch by the top recruiters of the country.

AND last, we must understand the market is way too competitive to try and restrain information from it. There are all kinds of players out there, from law students to potential recruiters to clat-aspirants and their parents, to lawyers, sponsors, etc. Especially when there is a decently commendable number to publish, and given the recent negative PR nujs has had, it make ABSOLUTELY rubbish sense to do what youre doing.

Bande Mataram.

Here are the rough, unconfirmed figures: (there are obviously more, in the form of PPOs and the like, but given that I aint the RPC, this is all i know)

AMSS: 3
Luthra: 5
Khaitan: 1
Trilegal: 3
AZB: 1
JSA: 2

There were a few more offers being spoken about from firms such as TTA and LKS, but one will have to wait for the RPC to come out on that.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -2 kianganz 2013-05-07 21:40
Thank you nujie baba for your insightful comment, and many thanks the figures - we've reached out to a number of law firms and those seem to check out from the responses so far.

We'll publish a full story on NUJS recruitment shortly after talking to the RCC again on whether they want to comment.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Recommend! +6 Objection! -20 RecruitedNUJSstudent 2013-05-07 21:35  controversial
Hi Kian,

As a student of NUJS who just got recruited Id like to see whether or not you let me voice my opinion on just how irrelevant and misguided you and your site are to the profession, students and law schools. You indulge in petty reportage that the industry grapevine gets across to everyone anyway. You are NOT a stakeholder in this process. If LI shuts down tomorrow the world will not come to a halt, as a matter of fact bar and bench does exactly what you do. You have absolutely no idea how the badly written and grammatically challenged articles on LI might impact the chances of those that do not have jobs yet. Stop throwing your sub-standard weight around, unless you want to get sued and lose in court to a law school who will surely beat you in any fora.
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Recommend! +26 Objection! -5 kianganz 2013-05-07 21:40  interesting  top rated  controversial
Congratulations on getting recruited, what a lucky firm! :)
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -4 haww 2013-05-07 22:35
So snide. tut tut
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -0 what 2013-05-07 22:37
you know what's really cool. Often B&B reports the same piece of news before LI (in fact, LI often links back to the B&B articles). However, B&B articles invariably have like 3 comments, while LI's articles have a minum of 20 when the news relates to law firms or law universities! This must be because of the "badly written and grammatically challenged articles" or because LI is "irrelevant and misguided" to the "profession, students and law schools" (incorrect grammar notwithstanding)
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 curious 2013-05-07 22:50
Quoting RecruitedNUJSstudent:
Hi Kian,

Stop throwing your sub-standard weight around, . . . .


What is "sub-standard weight?"
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-07 23:33
Quoting RecruitedNUJSstudent:
Hi Kian,

As a student of NUJS who just got recruited


lololoolloool relevance my dear?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 chacha 2013-05-08 11:59
Quoting RecruitedNUJSstudent:
Hi Kian,

As a student of NUJS who just got recruited Id like to see whether or not you let me voice my opinion on just how irrelevant and misguided you and your site are to the profession, students and law schools. You indulge in petty reportage that the industry grapevine gets across to everyone anyway. You are NOT a stakeholder in this process. If LI shuts down tomorrow the world will not come to a halt, as a matter of fact bar and bench does exactly what you do. You have absolutely no idea how the badly written and grammatically challenged articles on LI might impact the chances of those that do not have jobs yet. Stop throwing your sub-standard weight around, unless you want to get sued and lose in court to a law school who will surely beat you in any fora.

Kian what considerations/processes are involved in downvoting a comment
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 kianganz 2013-05-08 12:06
You'll have to ask other readers why they downvote or upvote comments (the little Recommend / Objection buttons on the right). When certain thresholds of good and/or bad votes are reached, comments are hidden, greyed out, labelled as potential trolls, as interesting, controversial, and so on...

We've been trying to introduce more of community-style moderation so that less time is wasted on responding to trolls and the good content is more easily visible. Do let us know if you have any queries.

Best wishes,
Kian
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Guest 2013-05-08 17:00
Quoting chacha:



Kian what considerations/processes are involved in downvoting a comment


Read this for further guidance: www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2011/09/news-websites-comments-golden-rule.php
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Well perhaps 2013-05-08 18:01
Kian and the LI team should also read this www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/opinion/sunday/this-story-stinks.html?hp&_r=1& and reevaluate their comments policy. But Kian will surely stick to his guns and allow LI to be a festering pit for hateful and spiteful comments
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 kianganz 2013-05-08 18:12
Interesting article... We're working on it with new moderation tools and the like, and the worst of ad hominem is generally not published. I think generally, things are gradually improving...
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Recommend! +3 Objection! -1 pi 2013-05-07 21:58
come on kian, should someone not giving you info stop you from reporting? for the first time it seems like you are falling behind the curve
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 two cents 2013-05-07 22:34
If the kids that form the RCC have actually gotten together and decided that it benefits them for Kian to not report on their recruitment statistics, of course they're within their rights to do what they can to ensure this (i.e., not share information). I don't think Kian is contesting this. He's contesting whether it benefits them, and it really does not:
1) if you genuinely believe, simultaneously, that LI is a rag that noone cares about and that law firms recruiting you are heavily influenced by LI, then you're a confused soul, and you shouldn't be making any decisions
2) LI's recruitment data, especially for colleges like NUJS that have relatively good statistics, will help draw recruiters who will realize that Noojies are more sought after than GNLU or HNLU people
3) Since it's definitely possible that the benefits of such data accrue more to the next few batches (if 40 kids get picked up at NUJS day zero, it is possible that other recruiters may think twice about recruiting from the rest of the batch, because the good kids have all been taken, but all recruiters will definitely try and be part of day zero the next year to reap the benefit of these oh-so-wow students), i think the lower batches should be particularly angry with this development and do what they can to ensure this doesn't happen (i.e., should share info with LI). What your fourth years are doing, essentially, is creating an information asymmetry which they believe (possibly incorrectly) benefits them, but which definitely harms you.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Confused Zeus Says . . . 2013-05-07 22:57
And I thought this was a story of NLSIU day zero placements.

Anyway, Kian - chill. If you don't get info from NUJS RCC, so be it. I'm sure you have several more newsworthy articles to publish.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -3 nls alum 2013-05-07 23:19
the toppers at nls usually either go straight for a ll.m. or a year in litigation. and one or two try the civils. just to put these numbers in context.
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -3 Lawschoolite 2013-05-08 08:44
Yes. In a place like law school, there are people who genuinely do not partake in the RCC process as they have other things in mind. It is sad to see how cynical some people are to presume that those who didn't get jobs, failed at getting them. Some of them didn't even try as it didn't fit their personal goals.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Go Nalsar! 2013-05-08 13:52
No reason. I just felt like saying it.

Hehe


On a different note, the Nalsar 2013 rcc is the only one with data out for everyone. Published 3-5 weeks ago on LI.
Kindly get details of other colleges.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 NALSAR 25 2013-05-09 13:47
placed 25 I hear!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Law School Student 2013-05-10 16:13
Well these numbers are slightly off. Firstly, the RCC was only of 45 students.

The total number of offers(campus+ppo's) :

Luthra-11
Amarchand-7
Khaitan-5
AZB-4
Trilegal-5
Mckinsey-2

Total=34

Out of 34 offers only 24 were accepted.
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