MPL 4: The home of Indian mootingMPL 4: The home of Indian mooting

NLU Jodhpur won its first moot in the fourth season of the Mooting Premier League (MPL), sponsored by Herbert Smith Freehills, beating AKK New Law Academy Pune in the finals of the National Rounds of the Commonwealth Moot Court Competition 2012, which was last held two years ago.

The winning team consisted of Thomas J Vallianeth, Garima Sahani and Shikhar Saha, with Vallianeth also winning the best speaker award and hauling in an additional 5 MPL league table points for his university.

NLU Jodhpur returned with a total of 15 points in this tier 5 bi-annual competition that acts as a qualifier to the Commonwealth Moot that will be held in Cape Town, South Africa between 14 and 18 April 2013.

The Competition was conducted at the Faculty of Law of MITS University, Lakshmangarh, Rajasthan between 30 November and 2 December and saw participation from a total of 23 teams. The finals were judged by Prof VS Mani, who is a well-known scholar of international law.

Vallianeth was enthusiastic about the victory and the moot’s international rounds when speaking to Legally India. “We are very excited about South Africa, we already read the moot problem and it deals with nuclear testing and liability, a very contemporary and interesting topic which we are looking forward to research into.”

Vallianeth also commended the overall judging and organization of the competition. “The quality of the judging overall was good, for the finals it was excellent and for a remote place like Lakshmangarh, they took a lot of effort to provide us with reasonable accommodation and facilities.”

A team from Nalsar Hyderabad consisting of Dipankar Das, Soumitra Bose and Utkarsh Mishra won the best memorial (and 5 MPL points), while teams from NLU Delhi and Amity University made it to the semi-finals.

NLU Jodhpur now has 40 points in the MPL 4 in fifth place, while Amity Law School rose three places from 17th to 14th with 16 points.

AKK New Law Academy and MITS have entered the MPL table at 29th and 34th place respectively while NLU-D further extended its lead in second place over NUJS by adding three points to finish with a total of 6 points.

FDI Moot for Nalsar and GNLU

Earlier last month Nalsar Hyderabad and GNLU Gandhinagar clinched 5 and 3 MPL points respectively at the 2012 FDI Moot, by winning the award for the Best Memorial and an honourable mention respectively.

Nalsar won best memorial over the likes of University of Buenos Aires, Argentina and St Petersburg State University, Russia, as well as the Oxford University Press (OUP) Prize, which consists of a gift voucher from OUP worth $250. The team from Nalsar consisted of Kaustabh Mishra, Ramya Mahidhara and Utsav Prashar.

GNLU’s Madhulika Srikumar also received an Honourable Mention in this tier 5 international moot as the fifth best speaker in the Competition. [Note: Following the rules of Jessup and Vis Vienna honourable mention MPL point allocations at international moots, the top 17 best speaker citations at the FDI moot (or around 22% of the total number of speakers at the competition) will earn MPL points.]

This year the event was held at Boston’s Suffolk University Law School from 2 to 4 November 2012 with a total of 39 teams participating in the competition.

John Marshall: Nothing for India

NLU Jodhpur finished runners-up in the Ambassador Rounds of The John Marshall Moot on IT and Privacy Law. However, runners-up in the Ambassador side rounds, for which only foreign teams are eligible, do not earn any MPL points following the MPL points allocation of 2010.

International law firm Herbert Smith Freehills is sponsoring the Mooting Premier League (MPL) and will contribute a prize pool of Rs 60,000 for the top three winning colleges.

Note: There was an unintentional computational error in the points allocated to HNLU Raipur in the previous iterations of the league table. This has now been corrected. We regret any confusion.

Mooting Premier League 4 season standings

Pos Law school T1 T2 T3 T4 T5 Org W R/u S/F B S B M/R HM Pts Details
1 NLSIU Bangalore 100   40   13   3 1   2 2   153 [Rizvi Moot] (Semis); [Surana Trial Adv - South] (gold); [Manfred Lachs Space Moot World Rounds] (gold, best memo, best orator);[Stetson South India](gold);[Oxford Media Law National Qualifiers](Silver, Best orator)
2 NLU Delhi     50 4 6 1 2   3   1   60 [HMMCC (Semis)][Henry Dunant] (gold); [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (organiser); [NLIU Juris Corp] (Semis); [Oxford Media Law National Qualifiers](Gold, best memo);[Commonwealth Moot National Rounds](semis);
3 NUJS Kolkata       8 40   2 2   3     48 [HMMCC (Best team)(Best speaker)] [Nani Palkhivala (runners up)][BR Sawhney (Best peaker)][SLCU Moot (Gold, Best speaker)]
4 NLU Jodhpur     15 4 21   1 1 4 1     40 [Henry Dunant] (silver); [Surana Trial Adv - North] (semis); [B.R Sawhney Moot] (semis) ; [NLIU Juris Corp] (Semis); [Oxford Media Law National Qualifiers] (Semis);[Commonwealth Moot National Rounds] (Winners) (Best Speaker)]
5 Jindal Global Law School     20 8 10   1   2   2   38 [Nani Palkhivala] (Best Memorial)][Henry Dunant] (best researcher, semis); [Surana Trial Adv - North] (gold); [Oxford Media Law National Qualifiers](Semis)
6 Nalsar Hyderabad       8 25 1 1 1   1 2   31 [HMMCC (Runners up)] [Rizvi Moot] (Best team); [B.R Sawhney Moot] (organisers); [NLIU Juris Corp] (Best Speaker);[FDI Moot (Best Memorial)];[Commonwealth Moot National Rounds] (Best Memo);
7 ILS Pune     5 15 10   1 1 1   1   30 [HMMCC] (Best researcher); [SLCU Moot] (silver); [NLIU Juris Corp] (gold); [Stetson South India](Semis)
8 Faculty of Law, Jamia Milia Islamia University     10 8 10     1   1 1   28 [Nani Palkhivala (Best speaker)][Henry Dunant (Best memo)[Surana Trial adv-North (Silver, bet speaker)]
9 HNLU Raipur       8 20   1 1   1 3   28 Nani Palkhivala (Best Researcher); [Pro Bono] (Runner's Up, Best speaker, Best researcher, Best memorial)
10 GNLU Gandhinagar       15 8   1     1   1 23 [Nani Palkhivala] (best team); [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (Best team);[FDI Moot] (Honourable Mention);
11 RGNUL Patiala       12 8     2 1       22 [Nani Palkhivala] (Semis); [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (semis); B. R Sawhney Moot (runners up); [NLIU Juris Corp] (silver);
12 RMLNLU Lucknow         20   1       2   20 [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (gold, best researcher); [Surana Trial Adv - North] (best memo);
13 GLC Mumbai     10 8   1       1     18 Henry Dunant (Best speaker)
14 Amity Law School Noida         16       1 1 1   16 [Rizvi Moot] (Semis, best speaker, best memorial);[Commonwealth Moot National Rounds](Semis)
15 NUALS Kochi     10   5     1     1   15 [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (silver); [Stetson South] (Best memo)
16 ULC Bangalore         15   1       1   15 [NLU Delhi Corp Moot] (best memo);[Pro-bono Enviro Moot (Winners)
17 NLIU Bhopal       6 8 1     2   1   14 [HMMCC (Semis)(Best memorial)] [Nani Palkhivala (semis)]; [NLIU Juris Corp] (Organizers);
18 NLU Orissa       8 5           2   13 [B.R Sawhney Moot] (Best Memorial); [NLIU Juris Corp] (Best Memorial);
19 CNLU Patna     10         1         10 [Stetson South] (Silver)
20 KLA, Trivandrum     10             1     10 [Stetson South] (Best orator)
20 Department of Law, North-Eastern Hill University     10             1     10 [Henry Dunant] (Best speaker);
22 KIIT School of Law         10   1           10 [B.R Sawhney Moot] (Winners) ;
23 Nirma University     5   3       2       8 [Henry Dunant] (semis); [Pro Bono] (Semis);
24 Symbiosis, Pune       8             1   8 [NLIU Juris Corp] (Best Researcher)
25 School of Legal Studies, CUSAT Kochi         8       1   1   8 [Surana Trial Adv - South] (best memo, semis);
25 SVKM’s Pravin Gandhi College of Law         8       1   1   8 [SLCU Moot] (best memo, semis);
27 School of Law, Sastra University, Thanjavur         6       2       6 [Surana Trial Adv - South] (semis); [Pro Bono] (Semis)
28 V.M. Salgaoncar, Goa     5           1       5 [Stetson South] (Semis)
29 A K K New Law Academy, Pune         5     1         5 [Commonwealth Moot National Rounds] (Runner's Up)
30 New Law College, Bharti Vidayapeeth University, Pune         5         1     5 [Surana Trial Adv - South] (best speaker);
31 Army Institute of Law, Mohali         3       1       3 [Surana Trial Adv - North] (semis);
31 Faculty of Law, IFHE Hyderabad         3       1       3 [SLCU Moot] (semis);
31 Campus Law Centre. Delhi         3       1       3 [B.R Sawhnhey Moot] (semis);
34 School of Law, Christ University, Bangalore         1 1             1 [SLCU Moot] (organiser);
34 Faculty of Law, MITS University,Lakhmangarh, Rajasthan (Mody Institute of Technology and Science)         1 1             1 [Commonwealth Moot National Rounds] (Organisers)
34 SOEL Chennai         1 1             1 Pro Bono (organisers)
34 Rizvi Law College         1 1             1 Rizvi Moot (organisers)

For more information please refer to the MPL 3 rulebook – Commonwealth moot, and upgrade of Oxford Media Law Moot South Asia to be updated.

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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Mehul Parti 2012-12-03 14:32
Commonwealth Moot, 2012- Amity Law School, Delhi (Affiliated to IP University) was the Semi Finalists and NOT Amity Law School, Noida.
Please Confirm and Change!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NLSIU 2012-12-03 15:23
NLSIU won best speaker at the Stetson (South India) Rounds. It doesnt seem to have been counted in the MPL Tally.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NLSIU 2012-12-03 15:24
NLSIU won Best Speaker at Stetson South India rounds. It doesnt seem to have been counted in the MPL Tally.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 aurobindo 2012-12-03 17:20
dude she won the best speaker of finals..... not the best speaker which was incidentally bagged by kla- by aneesh srikumar, u can confirm this from ur own team.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 aurobindo 2012-12-03 17:22
dude she won the best speaker of finals, not the best speaker which incidentally was won by aneesh srikumar from kla, confirm this from ur own team.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 U LIAR NLSIU 2012-12-03 20:19
Heyyyyyyya.....
Why is not my comment published?

Quoting NLSIU:
NLSIU won Best Speaker at Stetson South India rounds. It doesnt seem to have been counted in the MPL Tally.


The best speaker was ANEES fro KERALA LAW ACADEMY TRIVANDRUM

Just because you are the current toppers dont act oversmart
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Come on 2012-12-10 13:40
Come on man
At least look things up properly before you type something
As "U LIAR NLSIU" perfectly puts it "Just because you are the current toppers dont act oversmart"
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Congrats............!! 2012-12-03 15:28
presurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 jurani 2012-12-03 15:28
Please include the points for Surana&Surana East India rounds which seem to be missing for thr respective colleges.Try giving a holistic picture by including all the national moots and allocation of points
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 hnluite 2012-12-03 15:59
Dude Kian,

What is your problem....First you give the Surana Points then you dont....Even if you want to remove the moot altogether do it next year...or just decide first what you want to do.... :p
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Mohit Singh 2012-12-03 16:18
Dear Aravind

The points allotted to HNLU was not a computational error but allotment for "Surana Trial Advocacy Moot, North-East India round". This moot belongs to tier 5 and is at par with North India and South India Rounds. Please check the Surana's new division of states for this Moot.

Please correct your points tally.

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HNLU Raipur also conquered the north east rounds of the Surana & Surana trial advocacy moot, winning MPL points for best team, best student advocate and best speaker from the September 30 victory at NLUJAA Guwahati. NUJS Kolkata amassed runner-up points from the moot.
@ www.legallyindia.com/201210263219/Mooting/hnlu-raipur-loses-pro-bono-enviro-moot-to-ulc-bangalore-but-sweeps-rest-overtakes-nujs-to-2nd
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Top 5 2012-12-03 16:53
The top 5 reinforce that the Nationals- NLS, JOdhpur, NUJS and NLUD are up there. I'm sure NALSAR will be in the Top 5 by the end of the season. Bhopal seems to be performing poorly yet this season. Among the non- NLU's, ILS seems to be the place to be in. Jindal on the other hand is definitely a surprise and their performance is commendable, however, it will be important to see where it features at the ed of the season.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NUJS 2012-12-10 13:38
Forget NALSAR
Their time is up.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NALSAR it seems 2012-12-10 13:44
NALSAR? NALSAR is finished. They havent won even one MPL moot this season. They won a moot and it mysteriously got added to the MPL (Rizvi). There is a comment below about another moot where NLUJ won. Im sure nothing is going to be done about that. But maybe they would add it if NALSAR won.
It looks like after all the fighting Kian and NALSAR have come to some agreement where NALSAR keeps giving LI inside "scoop" in return for favours like this..
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Be sensible 2012-12-12 19:02
like seriously!
sir, how far fetched are your allegations? Leaving the issue of whether nalsar is "finished" or not, the MPL has certain definite rules fixed and they follow it accordingly.

Quoting NALSAR it seems:
NALSAR? NALSAR is finished. They havent won even one MPL moot this season. They won a moot and it mysteriously got added to the MPL (Rizvi). There is a comment below about another moot where NLUJ won. Im sure nothing is going to be done about that. But maybe they would add it if NALSAR won.
It looks like after all the fighting Kian and NALSAR have come to some agreement where NALSAR keeps giving LI inside "scoop" in return for favours like this..
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Devottam 2012-12-03 17:18
This analysis is laughable. I cant believe folks are analysing this make-believe game as if their careers depended on it. Let's make this a new website all by itself
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 For the New Website guy 2012-12-03 18:52
Quoting Devottam:
This analysis is laughable. I cant believe folks are analysing this make-believe game as if their careers depended on it. Let's make this a new website all by itself


Then what made you to come to this page?
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Stetson North 2012-12-03 19:04
What abt the gold for RMLNLU in Stetson north - not included.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Mumbai 2012-12-03 20:18
MPL4 has become such a farce that it does not have new good moots included in it and moot with 10 teams participating is a tier-three moot..... No new good moots which are excellent competitions with teams from reputed colleges participaing lying around 30-32 in MPL.

Whts happening Kian, it seems all is not well in MPL team
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Rohit, Mumbai 2012-12-03 20:35
Kian you have to rejuvenate MPL4, you cannot have a competition with 10 or 16 teams participating (referring to Stetson India rounds) in Tier III with the most prestigious moot of India (BCI moot) which has 50 best teams participating.

Stetson should instead be dropped to Tier V.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 kianganz 2012-12-04 01:30
Hi all - thanks for your comments and sorry for the delay, we're looking into all points raised and will update ASAP.

Some transition in Team MPL at the moment so there's some handover problems, but we'll take a holistic look at everything and take action/corrections where appropriate.

Sorry for any confusion or inconvenience in the meantime, we hope to have this settled shortly.

Thanks
Kian
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 ?? 2012-12-04 12:25
Kian,

How can Stetson which has the best teams participating be downgraded to a Tier 4 moot with Raj Anand and Surana Corporate etc?

1. Best teams from colleges participate, for that level of competition it should be there. You are talking about best National moots,and Jessup is there, so must Stetson.

2. 16 teams in Northrounds is a good number. End of the day its not about the number of teams but the quality anfd with so many good law schools participating it should not be downgraded. Better teams are sent to Stetson over Dunant and Media law, if they are Tier 3, and Jessup with its participation is, so should this.

3. International Law moots which give teams have to work consistently for months should not be placed in the same tier as moots which require one month effort (like Juriscorp). Differentiation must also be made because its IL, this year dealt with Erga omnes on species protection etc.


Purely for the intensity of the law, the quality of the participants and the presitige the moot enjoys it should remain as Tier 3.

MPL would be doing grave injustice to next year participants if they downgrade it any further. End of the day, some moots can have 60 teams, with only 8 odd who are very good/potential competition to win it. So, number is a very stupid criteria to judge and hopefully MPL won't stoop to such low levels so as to downgrade it merely because someone did not make it and wants it lowered.

The moot's prestige is atmost importance and here this moot has been enjoying it over 17 years. It is, atleast in line with the 3 year old Media law moot, and downgrading it, I repeat is injustice.

Oxford Media had 18 Indian teams out of which 3 qualified. Stetson north had 16 from which 2 qualified. Jessup last year had 14 in the south and 18 in North. So lets be practical about it and not listen to random haters!
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Animesh Khandelwal 2012-12-04 12:32
Hey Kian,

You wrote that you are counting the top 22% of speakers for giving points for the FDI moot, I also rank in the top 17 speakers of the FDI moot, I am a student of National Law University, Jodhpur.

Should it or not be included?

Regards,
Animesh
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Mooter 2012-12-04 19:05
Kian I think you very well know the condition of moots like Stetson. You are witnessing their pathetic situation. I think 13 should see the reality before arguing. Instead moots like Stetson are worth Tier 5 and not 4.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Also a mooter 2012-12-04 19:23
It's quite stupid to judge the quality of a moot by the number of participating teams. Sure, a moot can increase the incentives such that every university might decide to send teams but does that make it better? Does India even have 50 good law schools, much less 50 good teams? Jessup, Stetson, Manfred Lachs and Vis are moots with significant international prestige. Doing well in the international rounds at these moots takes immense capability, research and oratory skills. The teams going for the national rounds of these moots exhibit preparation on a level that is not often witnessed.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Mooter 2012-12-05 09:39
A simple answer to your fallacious argument....in GNLU, person with rank in 120s in Intra rounds is going for Vis. Can be checked from MCC, GNLU.

Not much left to be said.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Vivek 2012-12-05 12:36
Also, even if there are not 50 good teams in India as per Mr. 14.1, those 50 are atleast the best teams of their respective Universities.

Like for BCI, one University is represented by one team, so there is Intra comptt. in colleges belonging to same University to represent University in BCI, such is not the case with moots like Stetson atleast.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Also a mooter 2012-12-05 13:12
That's exactly the point I am making - that on a majority, the teams sent for Jessup, Stetson and Vis are better, if not comparable to the '50 best teams' sent for any halfway decent national moot. If there are stray instances in GNLU where someone ranked 120 chooses Vis, it doesn't mean that other universities follow the same policy nor does it mean that the on a majority, a college will not send its best teams for Jessup, Vis or Stetson - it most definitely will! It's a simple fact that winning certain international moots carries a certain amount of prestige, and involves an insane level of skill and preparation - if Jessup, Stetson and Vis aren't worthy of the best teams from your college, please enlighten me, which moots DO?!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 mooter 2012-12-05 16:12
Whatever you are arguing is baseless. The GNlU comment was not mine, neither am from GNLU. Apply your mind before saying something. The issue herein is the Regional rounds of Stetson moot. Also, I am never saying that Intl rounds tier is to be dropped down. Whtevr u r saying if regarding Int'l rounds to which their lies no controversy. The issue herein is Regional rounds where just 10-16 teams participate.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Also a mooter 2012-12-05 20:06
Yes man, exactly, if the colleges send their best teams for the moots, then they have to participate in the regional rounds which is an intermediate step. By extension, the national rounds of these moots, are significant enough to be in Tier III. Stetson is an important moot, one of the most important moots around. If you want to argue that its regional rounds are less worthy because enough colleges don't send teams, you are drawing a link between participation and quality that doesn't exist. Number of participating teams is one of the indicators, but the not the sole determinant of whether a moot is good or not. Stetson and Jessup's regional rounds may have only about 14/15 teams participating but downscaling them on this ground alone is not an option. Of course, if you are going to argue that my arguments are 'fallacious' without exactly pointing out why - please go ahead, you seem to be wildly talented at that.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 mooter 2012-12-06 09:44
Stetson Regional rounds cannot be compared with the most prestigious moot BCI. They cannot atleast be in same Tier. Also, such is not the case with every college that they send their best teams for Stetson "Regional" rounds.

By the way are you paid by Surana which conducts many moots including Stetson that you are keep on rattling?
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 :\ 2012-12-06 14:23
These are baseless arguments.

Stetson and Jessup are moots with considerable international prestiege. The competition amongst the limited number of teams there is intense. Downgrading it based on numbers is ridiculous. By that extrension SP Sathe has over 40 teams, does it deserve to be ahead?

The number of good colleges that participate in a moot is the determinent. Jessup, Stetson, Henry Dunant, BCI and Oxford Price deserve to be in the same tier.

Downgrading Stetson from one of them would be injustice. Surely you'll take cognisance of this Kian!

Oxford Media law moot is a fairly new moot. If that deserves to be in Tier 3, I don't see any logic of reducing Stetson to tier 4.

I thought it was a fair reflection of the skills of the participants and the level of preperation and the prestiege associated with the moot than the "number of teams".

We all know at the end of the day only 5 odd law schools would make a difference in most moots. And in Stetson the competition is phenomenal. I cant believe its being reduced to a number game.

Faith in MPL is slowly deteriorating.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Definately not a mooter 2012-12-11 12:45
hahah.

So Universities only send their best teams for the 'International' Round of Stetson?

What an idiot.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 On HMs Secret Service 2012-12-06 15:03
What happened to NALSAR? Seems like their much celebrated 'MPL' prowess has gone downhill since they the 'academic reforms'.

Is this correlated to the imposition of Sharia law on campus?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Mighty NALSAR 2012-12-10 13:49
Not one MPL moot WIN this season. They won some moot and THEN it got added to the MPL. Their time is done. Its over. Its time NUJS or NLUD stepped things up a little and claimed the title of being 2nd best.
NLS of course is still the best. And will always be.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 mooter 2012-12-06 17:47
5 law schools are not the only determinant...CNLU won BCI this time, NALSAR is not in Top 5.

Number do matters...
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Definately not a mooter 2012-12-11 12:48
I participated in the BCI Moot in which CNLU won. The top four teams were CNLU, NALSAR, Symbi and one more. It was very very strange that they won.

And the structure and propositions of BCI just suck.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 mooter 2012-12-06 18:04
Also all Tier 4 moots enjoy participation from so-called % law colleges, why shouldn't they too be elevated then?

For moots like GIMC, K.K.Luthra, Palkhivala, KLA; colleges do send their best teams too....does it mean all should be elevated to Tier 3?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Whats wrong with you? 2012-12-06 21:07
IS it the same level as Stetson or Jessup?

NO.

People prefer Stetson or Jessup OVER these moots for a reason.

And thats cause its better.

The next tier will be enjoyed by the moots you mentioned.

Nexus should not be drawn between participation and quality.

Man lachs world rounds has FOUR teams and enjoys tier 1. BECAUSE ITS HARD.

Get that in. Number of teams is the most stupid idea for downscaling a moot.

Probably the best 50 teams from a college go for BCI, but out of which hardly 10 are of comparable quality, cause most teams are BAD.

The best of most colleges are BAD.

This is as rudely as it can be stated.

Jessup Stetson hardly have participation, but they are insanely brilliant moots. STOP downscaling the nationals purely cause your college did not make it. It probably did not cause well, it was competing with the best, and its not good enough.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 mooter 2012-12-07 10:16
My college does well in many moots. Don't take it personally first of all. Its just a debate and seeing Stetson standards, I thought so. Furthermore, I tell you that people generally prefer palkhivala moot over Stetson which fall in same season. In that sense, Stetson should not be in Tier above than that of Palkhivala moot.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 rishsaxena10 2012-12-07 12:53
Umm, Harvard gets about 35,000 applications per year compared to more than 3,00,000 for IIT's. If the number's a criteria and if you'd rate IIT's above Harvard, then, I'm Game!

Sarcasm apart,look at it from an objective viewpoint. Many people don't opt for jessup/stetson for the sole reason that they believe to be not up to the mark. Most of the low-rung colleges will rather have their luck tried at some regional/national moot than spending time,money & energy on these ones. Yes,the numbers are lower, quantitatively but not qualitatively.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Agreed 2012-12-07 15:37
Agree with rishsaxena10.

Stetson qualitatively is a better moot, better teams are sent, it requires that prestiege to be associated with it.
Colleges send teams to BCI for affliation for their colleges.

Stetson and Jessup require a level of preparation and standard which most national law moots cannot have. Realistically, it makes sense. Some people don't take these moots because they believe they cannot qualify to the world rounds because of the standard the moot demands, hence the low participation.

On that related note, most lawschools like GLC, NLIU etc in the south had exams and hence low level of participation this year.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Sandeep K 2012-12-07 13:52
Its pathetic seeing these kids bicker over something as pitiful as moot courts. In a couple of yrs when they graduate they'll find out the hard way that the real world gives a rat's ass about who won the best hooter or mooter award in some xyz moot.

But please...continue the mudslinging.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Please 2012-12-10 11:46
Recently the Surana Tort Law Moot was conducted in Pune. It had 28 teams participating including some teams from outside of India. The moot was well organized and saw the participation of teams that were well prepared. Can this moot be included in MPL?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NLU-J 2012-12-10 13:37
Yes! Oh and NLU-J won the moot!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Jaipuri 2012-12-10 12:15
"Around 1,600 fresh law graduates reached Jyoti Rao Phoole College, which was one of the exam centres, whereas the centre had received only 700 question papers. Many candidates had not even received their admission card."

From Jaipur TOI
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/entrance-exams/Bar-exam-Shortage-of-question-papers-leads-to-chaos-exam-cancelled/articleshow/17551434.cms
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NLU 2012-12-10 18:47
Please provide more information about the results of Surana Int'l Tort Law Moot.

Thanks.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Yes Please 2012-12-12 00:13
Kian? LegallyIndia? Are you listening?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 kianganz 2012-12-12 00:19
Yep, we're listening. Always! :)
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 @Kian/Prachi 2012-12-10 21:49
Stetson North!!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 NLU 2012-12-13 10:16
I agree to the point that Regional Rounds of Int'l moots should be brought down to Tier IV as the Tier III is for Elite class which means that all elite teams across India should participate; merely few teams from reputed law colleges participating cannot make it Tier III moot. Or else moots like KLA, KK Luthra should be made Tier III if you don't want ti be unjust with other moots. Also, new moots like GTS Tulsi moot, Amity Int'l moot should be included in MPL considering the level of competition they witness.

For moots like Stetson, yes they verily are good moots but they do not deserve higher pedestal than moots like Palkhivala or KK Lthra or IICLAM or KLA. Number of good teams participating make a competition truly a competition, otherwise few teams within themselves win all the different prizes and earn many points for themselves in MPL.

Hope Team Kian is listening!!
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