Noveu schooledNoveu schooledExclusive: NLUO Cuttack did away with its recently launched LLM-and-PhD integrated-degree offering, before the two students who enrolled in it could be awarded the qualification. The students, who enrolled in September 2011 and had completed only one semester of the course, were transferred to the two year LLM degree instead.

The joint-qualification was first introduced in the university by former NLUO vice chancellor (VC) Faizan Mustafa in April 2011 as a first-of-its-kind degree in India, reported The Hindu at the time.

The programme offered an LLM degree integrated with the PhD degree in three years instead of the customary minimum of four years required to earn both separately. Additionally, the university had sanctioned monthly stipends of Rs 15,000 in the first year, and Rs 25,000 in the second and third years to be paid to students who enrolled for the programme.

In April this year, the VC’s office at NLUO changed hands with Mustafa resigning to take the role of VC at Nalsar, and former SNDT women’s university Mumbai’s VC Dr Chandra Krishnamurthy stepping in as the new VC. Three months into her administration, the joint degree was on its way out of the university.

On the ground

The idea of the course was first planted with a very specific objective, Mustafa told Legally India. “The academic council authorised me to explore the possibility of one-year LLM.” The entire emphasis on the need for a one-year LLM, which following last year’s UGC approval will be the duration of the LLM degree in India next year onwards, was because of the lack of “good teachers” he explained.

The course was developed by Mustafa with inputs from NLSIU Bangalore’s founding vice-chancellor NR Madhava Menon and former vice chancellor NL Mitra, both of whom are now on NLUO’s governing council. It was approved by the university’s academic council, said Mustafa.

“The programme is in conjunction with specialized legal research leading to a doctorate degree in law,” stated the university prospectus for the 2011-12 academic session, adding that the “conjoint degree” would prepare students for a career in academia, government and policymaking.

According to Mustafa, the university did not need to apply to the University Grants Commission (UGC) for recognition to the joint-degree because UGC rules already provide for the waiver of one year of instruction from the minimum period required to qualify, in the case of integrated-degree courses.

“You don’t need specific permission. A university is free to devise courses. Otherwise what is the autonomy of the university? That is the core concept of the university. BCI has said you can have MBBS-LLB, BTech-LLB, it is very much there. What is the whole idea of integration of knowledge,” he said.

The fully designed course was offered at the university with five seats, two of which were taken. The two students were admitted on 12 September 2011, and completed a semester of instruction in February when they were scheduled to appear for the first semester examination. They were paid the monthly stipend each month in this duration.

Theory and practice

Kinks in the implementation of the course appeared when the first semester examination was delayed by three months, marks were never communicated to the students, and full faculty or a course structure for the second semester was not assigned to the students three months well into the semester.

Sanchita Ain, one of the two admitted students, told Legally India that they approached Krishnamurthy with the problem who said that the course was missing “specific recognition” from the UGC. She assured them that she will apply for it, and that she expected to get it smoothly owing to the national law university autonomy which an NLU enjoyed.

Mustafa told Legally India that he did not get a chance to discuss the course and the issue of its recognition with Krishnamurthy.

In the last week of May Ain checked the university’s website to find a notification stating that the status of the course for her batch was indeterminate.

“The very next day I found the notification saying status of the conjoint LLM-PhD shall be notified later had disappeared,” said Ain.

Later in July she also found out that their monthly stipend had been stopped since April.

Old School V New SchoolOld School V New SchoolNobody answerable

“I am not bound to answer,” was, according to Ain, Krishnamurthy’s retort when after the university vacations she visited the VC in July to enquire about the status of the course.

Ain was told to direct her queries to the head of department (HOD), which she did and was informed a week later that her course-assignment now involved classroom teaching. This word-of-mouth instruction from the HOD was the only thing the students had in the name of a detailed course-structure.

“Nothing was happening. There was no internet in the new, under-construction campus. I had no place to sit. All classrooms were already full. I would go and sit in the canteen with the flies. The Library had not been shifted till then,” recounted Ain.

Another written representation later, Ain was called upon by Krishnamurthy to submit the entire academic year’s research-work done so far the next day, for consideration before an academic council meeting deciding the fate of the course, scheduled for 4 August. This was the last formal communication she ever got from the university.

After the 4 August meeting, the HOD Yogesh Pratap Singh informally communicated to her that the joint-degree was shelved and the course was converted to a two-year LLM degree programme.

Specifically approved

One university staff member claimed that despite being aware of the UGC rule on waiver of one year in the case of integrated professional courses, Krishnamurthy had decided much before the 4 August meeting, not to continue the joint degree programme this year.

The source said: “She said that it is not approved specifically, and might create a problem later for the students. The academic council agreed with her.”

Ain had earlier received offers from higher-ranked universities for LLM admission, including Nalsar Hyderabad and the Essex University. She said that she chose NLUO over them only because of the incentive of the joint doctorate degree, and her aim to begin a career in academia afterwards.

With the dissolution of the joint degree midway, Ain now decided to take admission in Essex University instead. She said that NLUO has not yet refunded the fee of Rs 1 lakh deposited by her in the university toward the joint degree. The university has also not provided her with her performance record for the period she was enrolled in the course, despite repeated requests.

Krishnamurthy instead last told her that the file containing academic recommendations made in her favour during the first semester was lost when the university shifted campus recently.

Krishnamurthy told Legally India that the university decided on “total discontinuation” of the course and the student who had enrolled for the joint degree with Ain had “agreed for the conventional LLM”.

She said: “This lady [Ain] was not available to us. In the beginning she was never available. This other student was always available. So we’re definitely wanting to accommodate him and in due course he will again enrol for a PhD program. We’ll have him as our teacher also.”

“Every university is entitled to give degree programme as they desire to but we also have to look at marketability of students. In the ultimate analysis, it seems that the students were wont to find himself or herself in difficulty, this made me think,” she added.

According to Krishnamurthy, recognition of the joint degree by the UGC and later by other universities was an issue. She said that customary recognition by the UGC exists for integrated programmes like the five year undergraduate law course, and not for “conjoint degree programmes”.

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Recommend! +3 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-10 17:33
This is not the first time such a fake claim was made by Dr. Faizan Mustafa, when he served as Director KIIT Law school too, the degree was told to be approved by Bar Council and it was equivalent to National Law school.Has no committment to career of students or academics and leaves for the next best offer.Under his tenure as registrar AMU cases against his appointments and promotions were filed in Allahabad High Court and was investigated by CBI for the murder of a student and his personal house was attacked and he had to resign. [...] he was Dean Faculty of Law AMU too in the same period [...]. If you dont believe go and check if any of these is an inch wrong. All websites are paid and managed by him for comments and ranking artificially.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -0 Inside Outside 2012-09-10 17:35
Clearly the concerned VC needs to be removed from her position.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-10 19:57
Why? Do you not see the gross mismanagement that was highlighted because of her.
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Recommend! +11 Objection! -0 Observer 2012-09-11 11:57  interesting
She may have brought "gross mismanagement" to light. But it seems to me from the report that she is herself "grossly mismanaging" the university by not following due process. For example, she allegedly said "I am not bound to answer", she allegedly required a student to "submit the entire academic year’s research-work done so far the next day" (i.e. no reasonable time provided), she seems to lack the decency to discuss the matter with the students (who are senior students and qualified law graduates). It all shows that she might have a dictatorial side and does not bother about being fair or following due process. Sorry, one cannot be her fan because one good act does not redeem other bad acts. It is very unfortunate that such insensitive people are running the show. Think of the feelings of the students affected. I feel enraged, and even more so because it does not befit someone of her education and standing. Being arbitrary does not look good on anyone, especially someone "learned in the law".
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-12 13:59
The course was not initiated by her but Prof.Faizan as "an innovation" and who did not discuss with her.When it could not be supported in the market or under UGC rules, its recognition becomes questionable in future and so the action in two months of joining by the new VC. The focus should now be on refund of fees of student as it will most certainly create inconvenience to any student who risks joining a new program.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Student 2012-09-12 15:14
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../13542968.cms

www.thehindu.com/.../article3494170.ece

Wish Ankita knew of such developments before going by the assumption that the course was not recognised. Why didn't the present V-C write to the UGC for clarification before taking such step?
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-12 15:59
Ask her not me!By the story in the link has been taken down click and check too.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Dr. Das 2012-09-12 22:17
Again dont be confused, between integrated and conjunct degree programs. Integrated program earns one a double degree but conjunct creates doubt. The two links refer to approved integrated programs and so also the U.G.C minutes give approval to making a two year program into one and not a phd out of masters or vice versa, its an abnormality accommodated to compensate for shortage of teachers.Every discipline has its epistemological, philosophical based that define its parameters of being called a discipline which have long been set and cannot be disregarded.So also the comprehensive,competence level of each level of study is set. Otherwise, such degrees will never be recognised worldwide .
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Observer to Ankita 2012-09-14 16:05
Ankita, everything else aside, limited point we have to accept is that the VC acted arbitrarily and did not show maturity that is expected of educated and senior members of the society. Unfortunately, most VCs are like this. If the mind is not without fear, then students can't grow. I hope she does not continue saying things like "I don't have to answer" very often. A VC must feel answerable for anything relating to the institution.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Reason as law 2012-09-13 12:01
It is childish to argue that "Prof. Faizan should have discussed with her" the innovative course. How could Prof. Faizan have such discussion with her one and half year before she was appointed as the VC of NLUO as the course was launched much before she took over charge of NLUO? In fact it was the duty of the present VC to discuss the issue with the previous VC if she could not understand what the innovative course was about!!!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-15 20:14
I agree with Dr.Das there's a difference between integrated and conjunct degree programs and their recognition and legality would be different.I'm not here to judge the current VC or speak for her, mind you but point out that what was implemented in previous tenure cannot be counted as the failure of the successor. Why are you so against the lady, u have nothing but evil intent and want others to accept without thinking for themselves.It is not childish to say it was the duty of Dr.Faizan to clear all matters before leaving or later as he was giving charge to her.If he was committed and concerned he would have. Im surprised someone pointed him as young dynamic, he's not and looks old and sick and past premature retirement age at AMU and after all he credits the idea to Prof Menon and Prof Mitra so its not funny.
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Recommend! +8 Objection! -0 Why? 2012-09-10 19:34  interesting
The university should have atleast tried to get the conjoint degree programme recognised and above everything else , the university should have co-operated in a better manner with the students, take responsibility and atleast provide them with their record. Denying the course in such a manner, in the middle of the course, is a gross wrong to the students who enrolled in it. No university should be allowed to do this.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -0 NotSoLegal 2012-09-11 00:17
Arn't these gays LLB pass outs. dnt thy know their rights or concept of promissory estopel. they can go to t court regarding t same and t rules are in their favor, so is UGC & BCI rules, university is autonomous nothing can stop them from their 3 year degree and most imp stiffen .

JAGO GRAHAK JAGO, n thoda resrch karo and BE a ADVOCATE ;)
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Recommend! +9 Objection! -0 Kishen 2012-09-11 06:20  interesting
This is ridiculous! A university "suddenly" decides to discontinue a degree program in the middle of the course?
Mustafa may have erred in starting this course but how can a state run institution like NLUO quit abruptly leaving these students in the lurch? A real shame and a discredit to the present VC. I can think of two possibilities only - Either Mustafa was wrong, in which case he should be promptly sacked from NALSAR. Else this lady must go. Clearly both the persons involved cannot be allowed to continue as VCs!!

That apart, what is all this nonsense about BCI recognising MBBS-LLB and BTech-LLB? sounds like what those jokers at NLU Jodhpur are teaching.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Your poor thing! 2012-09-11 12:04
Have a complex about NLUJ, eh? Understandable buddy :P
I also have a feeling that yours is a case of "grapes are sour" i.e. an anit-NLU feeling. If you were at a decent lawschool, you would have made an informed comment. NLU-J only offers LLB with BA, BSc, and BBA. It would be good to see an MBBS LLB course though. Will be a moment of pride when that happens.

Btw, HUG. You need it. Get well soon you poor thing!
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Kishen 2012-09-13 01:36
Well, if my grapes are sour, then I guess everybody at law school has a case of sour grapes vis-a-vis Jodhpur :P

Its silly how every tom, dick and harry law school out there feels it has to come up with some shady degree to justify its existence. I have a few guys working under me from NLUJodhpur who admit that 99% of the phy / chem / biology imparted at jodhpur was an utter waste. NLUJ is only going down the way of symby in "innovative" courses which are euphemisms for quakery.

At least they wont start that tomfoolery at law school! Peace Yo! V
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 @ Kishen 2012-09-14 16:00
Dude, you really need a hug. The tone you use i.e. you have "a few" NLUJ grads "under" you who "admit" blah blah blah is hillarious. I don't have to say anything about NLUJ and how it justifies its existence :)

Peace is something you are far away from. That will come when you start respecting others. At your present state, you and your ego won't fit into an elevator together!
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Kishen 2012-09-15 04:58
You seem more of a hug-giver than a lawyer. Which is in line with the stuff you're spouting. Till now you've not been able to come up with any benefit of what is well known as one of the shadiest LL.B. courses among the NLUs. Instead you talk about my ego and my respect or lack thereof as though you're a TV-evangelist! :D

Im proud of my education at the best of the best (Go figure). I cant stand mediocrity and thats what places like NLUJ (and NLU Bhopal) stand for. Pure and simple mediocrity. They attract a lot of attention simply because the alternatives are even worse. dunno about the LLM scene but in law firms, both india and outside, NLUJ and NLUBhopal are doing very poorly, behind even GLC and ILS.

Sure I have a big ego an sure thats why I dont use the lift :D But that dont turn a joke of a law school into something passable.
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Recommend! +7 Objection! -0 Reason as law 2012-09-11 11:45  interesting
It is highly unreasonable to leave students in lurch after inviting them to join a course promoted as game changer. No legal entity should be allowed to go back on its promises without any consequences.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 concern 2012-09-11 12:17
Its very unfortunate things happening in the university. This is not only conjoint programme......the ambiance of entire university is being made depressing [...]........ONLY GOD CAN SAVE
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Recommend! +3 Objection! -0 lawful 2012-09-11 12:33
www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/commissiondecision/478.pdf
read ugc's official decision to go to one year llm. nluo was right in going ahead with such an imaginative course.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Sherry Das 2012-09-11 21:14
Ohh wow!!!Where did you find this confidential report???? Amazing. Too bad the members did not know about the unsuccessful implementation of the program.
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 Literate 2012-09-11 23:42
As is apparent from the link, it is from the official website of UGC (wish one was aware of it). It is the 478th decision of the UGC. In short, one need not be a Sherlock Holmes to get it! An excerpt from the minutes:

"The Commission accepted the report of the expert committee for restructuring of the LLM. course from two years to one year. The Commission has agreed in principle to restructure the two year LLM. program into one year LLM. program. It was decided that, in order to operationalise the recommendations of the expert committee, a three member committee may be constituted under the Chairmanship of Prof. Madhav Menon. The two other members of the committee may be appointed in consultation with Prof. Madhav Menon..."

Hope that helps one to understand the decision.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Sherry Das 2012-09-12 13:15
Literate ask Lawful how a UGC confidential document in pdf came here. Doesnt it surprise like I was rightly so? Who could provide such detailed information? True of what you quote but Legally India's report states,"She said that customary recognition by the UGC exists for integrated programmes like the five year undergraduate law course, and not for “conjoint degree programmes”.Mustafa told Legally India that he did not get a chance to discuss the course and the issue of its recognition with Krishnamurthy".And poor Ain had to pay the price for it. Hope it clear now!
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 usman 2012-09-12 15:53
The UGC document is on its website. Anyone can see it.www.ugc.ac.in
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Sherry Das 2012-09-12 16:21
Yeah just saw it uploaded on the internet hahhaa but not on UGC website as it says confidential.My point was made earlier and remains sadly the price paid for such mismanagement blaming one party over the other forgetting any sympathy for the students.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 js 2012-09-11 13:09
what is the status of the double conjoint ug programmes, highlighted in the nluo website, especially after the vc herself says that no customary recognition is there for conjoint courses?
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 alig 2012-09-11 13:29
as to cbi enquiry in amu. Mustafa had nothing to do with it. CBI investigated the muder, found nothing against Mustafa. Arrested three persons and prosecuted them. They got life imprisonment. Legally india should not be used to malign anybody.

www.google.co.in/.../
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Dear Alig 2012-09-11 23:05
Three top officials of the prestigious Aligarh Muslim University resigned yesterday. Registrar professor Faizan Mustafa, Proctor professor Akhlaq Ahmed and Controller of Exam Mehandi Hassan Rizvi submitted their resignation to Acting Vice Chancellor M. Salahuddin, which was immediately accepted.Pressure was building up on these officials due to continued agitation and protests in the campus on one pretext or the other. The law and order situation had also deteriorated considerably resulting in the death of an engineering student two days ago. The students were constantly demanding the resignations of the three key officials.http://www.arab news.com/node/297750
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 usman 2012-09-12 11:39
It seems you are not in know of things at all about AMU. The VC simply disappeared on 7th april, 2007 as he was not willing to concede to the student's demand to permit some students to take exam in spite of their low attendance. There was some violence in the Abdullah girls school as well. Same nigh there was one murder. In a traditional university, law and order is the duty of Proctor not Registrar. U may check with anybody or look at registrar's duties in any university. After this violence, particularly, after students attacked PVC then acting as VC one Prof. Saleemuddin, the entire top administration resigned including registrar. Mustafa had in fact resigned several months back as registrar to take over as dean as he wanted to go back to his parent deptt. he was persuaded by the VC to continue till 7th May, 2007 as officiating registar. This was the day on which VC Naseem Ahmad was completing his term. Since he himself left on 7th April, mustafa told acting vc that he may also be relieved which was done on 20th april. It is all rubbish to say that mustafa's appointment was ever challenged in Allahabad High Court. Ankita had claimed that not even an inch of her post is wrong but it seems, her entire comment is a work of fiction.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Ankita 2012-09-12 15:49
I dont know about your story but mine are non-fictional and documented in papers where I had read them long ago, like www.indianexpress.com/.../0. The news report says, VC had resigned under pressure from university teachers who were critical of his “lenient” approach to crime on the campus and not because of attendance."They also broke into the residential compound of Registrar Faizan Mustafa." The earlier story above confirms the targets and the death and subsequent investigation by CBI.Several cases challenging appointments and promotion were filed in Allahabad High Court against the decisions made as registrar.And the recognition by Bar council was not obtained before admitting students in KIIT but gained later.So there's a pattern to operating.Anyway good luck to all concerned.
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Recommend! +7 Objection! -0 Just 2012-09-11 18:42  interesting
I can hardly see this as a prudent action from one lady to another. To me this is a crime by way of abatement. She forced one potential teacher out of the country and for this she is to be held liable. She seems to lack common sense forgive her of knowing promissory estoppel. Why does the chancellor not intervene for the future of the poor girl.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -0 sad 2012-09-11 22:21
Kian I have always wondered why LI has never done a story comparing the quality of faculty in our law schools (quality of publications etc) I think this will be very useful for CLAT aspirants. e.g. the quality of NLSIU faculty has fallen rapidly but CLAT aspirants don't know that.
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 concern 2012-09-12 00:56
The question is not whether it is conjoint programme is legally permitted or not. The question which lie at the heart of the issue is "Madam Vice-Chancellor does not like anything good or innovative done by her predecessor". This is the problem faced by all the new law school because these Vice-Chancellor are not visionaries like Prof. Menon and Mitra...they are treating this like any ordinary service....No doubt NLUO's teaching is good in comparison to many but if this state of affairs continues, i doubt the same growth of NLUO...
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Recommend! +5 Objection! -0 Reason as law 2012-09-12 11:51  interesting
The fiasco created by the present VC NLUO can be a good study about academicians who must not be appointed as VCs! It also raises question marks on the ability of Search Committee to find a suitable candidate for such a critical job. What factors were taken into account while appointing the present VC of NLUO?
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 oriya 2012-09-12 19:12
Is it not a fact that NLUO was doing much better compared to other law schools in terms of innovative curricula. It was first law school to have Mass Communication integrated with law and gave students of BA LLB to take courses of BBA LLB.In the General Council meeting, likes of Prof.Menon did appreciate these innovations.
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 Anonymous 2012-09-12 19:48
This incident brings out some disturbing facts. On one hand there is an admitted lack of good teachers, which supposedly prompted the introduction of the integrated course. On the other, we seem to be floating in a total lack of clarity on what can make a good teacher? Utility of doing an LL.M. (even from the best law schools) was decried by a 'visionary' some time back, because it is so academic! LL.M. studies of course fell beyond the reach of the great vision. PhD and research in law of course were fated to be categorized 'remote' because they have nothing to do with 'legal education' whose single-most test of success is 'placement'. And here we are struggling to fill the faculty positions with reasonable talent.

There are another set of thinkers though, who still firmly believes in the great quality of the Masters level courses offered in the Indian law schools and will readily dismiss the best of foreign LL.M. degrees if one attempts any academic pursuit with it. They put great emphasis on the time spent in the university rather than what is learned.

The UGC and AIU on the other hand, would rather generate a mountain of confusion than clarifying one issue. If there is a decision on reducing the duration of LL.M. courses to one year, why not simply issue a circular specifying the date from when it will be permitted? Why is it left to the interpretation of the VC? The AIU, on the other hand, seems to have the powers to dismiss degrees from even the best of Universities. It hardly matters if not a single Indian University figures in the best 200 of the World.

A war of egos amongst VCs is the last thing Indian legal education needs. Till the UGC wakes up, students should better stick to 'tradition' than 'vision sans responsibility'
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Just 2012-09-12 20:38
Dear Oriya, I am you would find this interesting that the integration of Mass Communication and Law was the vision of the previous VC. The teacher has now left the university since the last 1 month and no efforts are being made to recruit another. What is the status of that course? I guess there is no customary recognition for that too. But then madam of course is NOT ANSWERABLE like she always is !!!
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Aspirant 2012-09-12 22:16
When the universities otherwise are going for newer and newer courses why is this university going on an opposite trip??? What is SNDT university? Should I choose NLUO as one of my options as one of my options next year?? Need help friends.
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Recommend! +2 Objection! -0 Anonymous 2012-09-13 11:56
Dear Aspirant, before you get onto the question of which law school to choose next year, it may be useful reality check on what a BALL.B. can really offer you. My intention here is not to discourage you, but to inform you. This incident reveals some hard facts about legal education in India, one should not ignore:

(i) The brand name of a law school does not necessarily mean quality education. However, a law school with good infrastructure may help you overcome such shortages through your own efforts. It simply means you have to be highly motivated about law as a career option.

ii) Try to compare the rate of growth in the number of law schools offering BA LL.B. courses with the rate of growth in the number of Tier 1 law firms in India (I am not counting Tier 2,3,4 ... law firms, because I think it is the lure of high salary and 'prestige' that law schools utilize to make their brand name). The number of Tier 1 law firms has remained pretty static at 8 - 12 for years. Even if one counts the possibility of expansion of teams within those firms, there is a limit on how much demand for fresh graduates those firms can generate.

iii) Please try to gather information on what people with great campus placements from law schools are doing 5 - 10 years later and see if placements necessarily guarantee a career.

iv) Check what options you may have other than joining a law firm. Despite little disagreement that there is a dearth of good litigation lawyers, the basic rules in this profession do not seem to be ready for change for the better anytime soon. In-house positions could be another option. But please do not let your expectations escape realism. The role of an in-house lawyer is at best 'support service' and he does not lead the business (that role generally goes to the people with a degree from IIM or the likes). Many a times, one may have to compete with Company Secretaries for work. You may want to ask yourself if you want to become a 'Professional' or an 'Employee'. There is nothing wrong with either, and I do not mean to even hint that one is better than the other. A lot of times it is simply about earning a living, but if you really care about the nature of work you do, it may be useful to make a distinction.

v) If you are interested in academics/research, be ready to accept a lighter pay-cheque and deal with some higher-ups who are either too proud to have written a 'BOOK' and a few articles or are too insecure about the potential and enthusiasm shown by someone much younger. 'KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM MAKES YOU HUMBLE' rarely applies to these people.

The bottomline is, it is YOU who is going to make your career. So please do not get too overwhelmed about the brouhaha around whether BA LL.B. is better than LL.B., School A is better than School B, Firm A is better than Firm B etc.etc.

As long as you have the valid qualifications, you are free to work your way up. Fortunately or unfortunately, there are far more pseudos in this profession than real talent and if you are motivated and able to discern the real information behind the gloss, you can excel in this profession.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 cuttack 2012-09-13 12:23
It would be an interesting story for legally india to compare all the 13 present vcs of nlus with the past ones. In traditional universities, every new vc finds fault with his/her predecessor.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 student 2012-09-13 14:57
the allegations regarding the lack of library and internet in NLUO was hardly for 2 weeks... NOw it's perfectly awesome here. LLM classes are in full swing... And the students need to to bear and co-operate for sometime esp when the new campus is coming up rather than defaming the college.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 oh 2012-12-06 17:47
cooperate till what extent. So far as internet is concerned, I would like to state the fact despite taking fee from us we are not provided internet in our rooms. We have to stand at balcony where you can not sit and have to continue working while standing.
I have a question for Madam VC- Who gives her right for not providing us the service when she has already charged fee for the same? She should bring change in her behaviour. Becoming angry at students on every point is solution for anything. I would like to state that students are fined Rs.2000 for no reason at all. Nobody knows where this money is going.
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Recommend! +4 Objection! -0 Just 2012-09-13 16:31
Just wondering what is happening regarding the case at hand? What happened to the students under the LLM-PHD course? What about her stipend that has not been illegally unpaid by the university because of the VC? Is anyone really bothered?
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Recommend! +3 Objection! -0 unlawful 2012-09-13 22:08
We need to understand that a younger vc is always more innovative and energetic.NLUO should have brought someone for NLS systems.Traditional universities do not like innovations.Kapil Sibal is talking of Meta Universities where Engg & dancing would be integrated in one degree.Degrees would be jointly awarded by the several universities.Traditional universities and their professors are finding it difficult to digest such innovations.
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Recommend! +3 Objection! -0 Nluoite 2012-09-13 22:43
This question can be answered only by VC but meeting her is very herculean task but there are two-three peoples who with some very specific reasons are in very close proximity can tell but i dont know whether yu will get answer or not..we are getting used to the new system as we dont have any option but to wait for three-years......
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Recommend! +5 Objection! -0 Just 2012-09-14 18:58  interesting
Why are you comparing apples and oranges. I have heard mustafa speak at Delhi. He speaks with conviction and commitment. But that is questionable. Think about KIIT School of Law and NLUO, he left both of them mid way. If he had not done that then the present VC would be sitting at home browsing saas bahu ki serials rather then try these funny things like closing down on programs. I wonder how no one has filed a case against her for unlawfully holding on the stipends of the student. it is all mustafa's fault that she is here. Please stop blaming her for being what she can best be [...]
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Jest 2012-09-15 12:49
Quoting Just:
Why are you comparing apples and oranges. I have heard mustafa speak at Delhi. He speaks with conviction and commitment. But that is questionable. Think about KIIT School of Law and NLUO, he left both of them mid way. If he had not done that then the present VC would be sitting at home browsing saas bahu ki serials rather then try these funny things like closing down on programs. I wonder how no one has filed a case against her for unlawfully holding on the stipends of the student. it is all mustafa's fault that she is here. Please stop blaming her for being what she can best be [...]

Well summarized jest!!!
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Recommend! +9 Objection! -0 Ennar 2012-09-15 00:13  interesting
Mustafa gives the impression of being an exploring rolling stone. He has had KIIT and NLUO for only short periods, and now Nalsar. Given this alarming rate of progress, his departure from Nalsar is seemingly inevitable. Apparently, to this adventurer there is no dearth of fast-track opportunities! As for his next stop, your guess is as good as mine.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 cuttack 2012-09-16 09:31
Let LI ask mustafa as to his leaving of KIIT and NLUO but students from KLS and NLUO who got selected in NLSIU, NALSAR or GNLU did not stay in KIIT or NLUO but joined better institutions. If we could do it, why not him yet let us listen from horses mouth.I do recall his address where he did outline his frustrations with the slow construction work at cuttack and over officialdom which is increasingly becoming the norm.we are going the government way.A dynamic person as he is and no one doubts his abilities,he was feeling bad about slow movement of things.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Nluoite 2012-09-22 07:57
This is the most silly response putting the head of institution commitment on par with the student. Why only question Dr. Faizan alone and not the other party, the story has two sides.
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Recommend! +1 Objection! -0 Why? 2012-09-19 23:25
Oh he is not going anywhere. This is like a dream come true for him.
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