Gursharan HS Virk from GNLU Gandhinagar won the best male oralist award and Aishwarya Chandran from HNLU Raipur won the best female oralist award, while GNLU also won the best memorandum award, said competition coordinator Dr Tabrez Ahmed. GNLU takes home 15 points from this moot and is now placed tenth in the MPL standings and Gursharan also won a one-year scholarship of Rs. 1,000 per month for winning best speaker in the preliminary rounds.
The moot also saw the entry of Faculty of Law, University of Allahabad in the MPL Race as they finished as semifinalists, after being humbled by NLS Bangalore.
Nalsar speaker Saiib Mirz said: “The final rounds were big, we were facing NLS and we knew it is going to be tough. Last night, we got their memorandums and we pulled out all the cases that they had used but we had not used. We read all the cases and our late night research helped us a lot.
“Apart from that, both the final teams were good in arguments but our strategy was to tackle them with the knowledge of law and that paid off. NUJS gave us really good competition in the semifinals. Judges were quite good, mostly pass outs from national law schools.
“The only improvement which could have been made was with regard to the moot problem, it could have been drafted better.”
Virk, the best male oralist from GNLU, added: “The moot organisation was exceptional and the students of the host university were extremely helpful. But, there were two things that I would wish to highlight. The first one is with regard to the moot problem which was not worthy of being a problem for India's most prestigious national moot. Secondly, some judges were extremely bad. When they sat for judging, they did not know the facts of the problem clearly. We won the Best Memo and the Best Speaker, but we did not qualify to the last four. There is something wrong.”
Ahmed, who coordinates the competition which was conducted by the Bar Council of India Trust in collaboration with KIIT Law School, Bhubaneswar, said that a total of 33 teams from across the country.
“The competition was tremendous, especially from the quarterfinal rounds”, he said.
He also said that the organizers were happy that all the national law schools in the country participated in the moot.
Tabrez Malawat, the Student Convener of the Organizing Committee told Legally India: “Many students were skeptical as to whether that we, a nascent law school would be able to organize the moot well. But, we did exceed everyone’s expectations and put up a good show”.
The Nalsar team consisted of Mirza Saaib Beg, A.S.Vishwajith and Shrishail Navalgund whereas the NLS Bangalore team had Akshaya Ramadurai, Radhika Chitkara and Jahnavi Sidhu.
Legend: T1, T2, T3, T4 and T5 (total points won in each tier); Pos (Position); W (Wins); R/u (Runner-ups); S/F- Semifinalist; B S (Best speaker); B M/R (Best Memorial/Researcher); HM (Honorable Mention & other equivalent awards); Pts (Points) For more information please refer to the MPL 2 rulebook.
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NALSAR going ahead with KLA. Going ahead and ahead. NUJS being runners following them and followed by NLU Delhi getting best speaker and semifinalist. Top 3-4 gonna be touch till finals of Jessup.
i'm amazed at the maturity and grace with which you accept winning :-)
nls won bci 2 years in a row before this, and every alternate year before that. it's a great achievement, which it is for you guys as well. how about we leave it at that? or maybe you want to get some of your frustration out here?
also, nls lost by one point. so think before going the whole hog
@11 You are truly not a NALSARite. While we do celebrate our win we do not bash any other law school or LI. You must be a non NALSARite trying to put the gun on our shoulders to vent off your frustration at the law school in Nagarbhavi.
'the proper way'. hahaha. you dont need to say all this on a public forum to make yourself feel better ya ... dont be so insecure. reflects badly on you ...
Fie on you! You truly are not a NALSARite. While we do celebrate our victory but this is not us. There are other ways to show we are better than the law school at Nagarbhavi. I BELIEVE YOU ARE FROM SOME OTHER LAW SCHOOL RESTING YOUR GUN ON OUR SHOULDER TO VENT YOUR FRUSTRATION!!! NALSARITE
@ # 10, 11: What's the need? I intended to congratulate the NALSAR team for winning what seemed to be a well-competed moot. As entertaining as it makes the website, it's incredibly unnecessary. Really, man, stop with the puerile sliming. Plus, "Go on pee on your stupid stories" isn't even particularly smart.
@ # 12: Exactly. Keep doing at the moots, and the NLS people who slime will not have any locus anyway. And likewise. Best way to settle it, I think.
Somebody predicted on LI a few days ago that NALSAR would bounce back!!! NALSAR will once again the MPL trophy. trust me, it wilL be repeat of last time: 1) NALSAR, 2) NLSIU, 3) NUJS
Wow. The very epitome of small college mentality. Why are you so obsessed about NLSIU and "kicking NLS ass". Clearly you believe that we're still the best.
Listen here!!(FINGERS RAISED) We have also won The KLA moot Competition, adding another feather to our cap... This shows the ratings are rigged and we are the best...
My god. GROW UP. "Insecure" and "bitter" just about sums up you guys. We know you are all NLS-rejects, and only your incompetence at cracking the CLAT is why you aren't at NLS.
hey i congratulate the nalsar team fr thre commendble wins but dnt be ovrcnfdnt guyzz bcoz nujs can overturn the tally nytym in our favour ok...u btter not...
That's not the point. The point is that these repeated attacks on NLS are made by people who could never make it there (although they wanted to), and consequently, are just looking for an opportunity to bring NLS down. Which is clearly shown by the sheer idiocy and vitriol of certain comments. (Check up those words in the dictionary if you don't know what they mean - because I'm quite sure you don't. No offence)
please, do not talk about CLAT exam, we all know what kind of questions are there in this paper. And it would not affect the performance of a law school to a great extent.
Ok... i really dont see why this is turning into a slug fest. We are happy that the NALSAR team performed so well and I must say NALSAR speaker number 2 Mirza was so effective in destroying the opposition in every round.. his speech packs a punch!! The finals were just amazing! He targeted every judgment used by NLSIU and used THEIR OWN judgments to show how they were wrong. AMAZING MOOT SKILLS. Having said that, NLSIU performed well too and we can not discredit the fact that their speakers were on a weaker side as the problem was drafted that way. But the judges were aware of all the relevant points. But no matter what NLS would have done, NALSAR would in any case have WON THIS MOOT. their speakers were just amazing!
saaib mirza ROCKs!! I have never seen a more aggressive yet persuasive speaker. He destroyed the arguments of the NLS team in 13 minutes and then spoke for 30 minutes in the final on his own contentions.
dude the judging was absolutely great. Except in one or two rounds where the judges were not clear on CISG.In these rounds it was the duty of the opposition to show how it was wrong and point it out to the judge. Such things are there in every moot. But on the whole judging was fair.
@legally india NALSAR speaker Mirza won best speaker in every round: finals, semis and quarters on the basis of speaker scores. This must be included to give NALSAR more points.
see, dont say that we at nalsar are insecure. i'll tell you why, 1. we dont have to name the dogs in our campus as NLS to prove a point. now please dont deny that u havent named a dog as nalsar in ur campus just to vent out ur frustration. 2. we dont have to put up every petty achievements of ours on our website for publicity, and then u say we are press-loving people. People u can chk the nls website to verify that. we dint even put in on our website wen we came third in jessup and you wud put up even a best speaker award frm a not so important moot on ur website. INSECURITY AND ATTENTION PROBLEM. Example could be the nani palkhiwala tax moot, nalsar won the best team and u won the best speaker and u were quick enough to put that on ur website. Stop selling yourself. 3. we accept defeat gracefully, unlike u guys, u wud always have ur reasons why u lost. 4. and if u feel we are nls rejects, please chk ur facts, every year there are a bunch of people who choose nalsar over nls, u are an eleven year older institution than ours and the times change slowly, just wait for that. 5. and btw,arguendo, despite having the "cream", if u still cant make them win moots, there is definitely sth wrong with ur college 6.and @33, if you feel that just by using verbose language u are better than us, then m sure u aint from nls. GROW UP. 7. and whoevr it was who used derogatory language abt nls and LI, m sure he/she is not frm nalsar,that was just an attempt to fuel a war of words between nls and nalsar frm someone who loves to watch us fighting.
@44, evidence? chk previous posts of mpl incorrect on facts? 15 people out of 70 in my batch REJECTED nls.. thats enough to show that TIMES ARE CHANGING. You want their names and ranks? will put that as well! and dude? do u guys argue only in moots? Seriously? THATS LOGIC! LOL
its rather stupid to call nalsarites nls rejects. after clat, a difference of even one mark makes all the difference..so just because someone at nls got a question correct and someone frm nalsar didnt, doesnt make the nls guy smarter...and probably this is the reason why we dont call guys frm nujs as nalsar rejects, considering the fact that most fill nujs as their third preference after nls and nalsar. time to grow up guys. :-)
The total number of participants in the 1st BCI International Law Moot 2011 was 36. But the blog is mistaken to publish the total number of participants as 33. The said mistake should be rectified soon.
Dr. Tabrez Ahmad, Associate Professor of Law, Coordinator,1st Bar Council of India International Law Moot Competition 2011.
Its this old slug fest. Rivalry yes, but let's show it in moots and thrash them there rather than doing it on LI. I would suggest that all present NALSARites refrain from this stupid slug fest here. Industry reputation puts us at par with NLS if not ahead. It's for you guys to beat them at every competition and in round about everything, from publications to a better culture in the student frat. I happen to know a kid who got through NALSAR this year who did not get NLS for one mark. I agree that one stupid question e.g. "where was the 1972 Asiad held?" does not make you a better lawyer. NALSAR IMHO is going to outshine NLS soon but my dear juniors abstain from doing it online and take it to the moot courts et. al.
To Kian, I think its about time that the comments forum on LI was a little more strictly regulated. As a new visitor to the forum, just for a few days in fact, I feel compelled to point out that the level of slime and sludging that we as law students have indulged in is simply horrifying. Most people in every Law school will testify that all of us have good friends, sometimes very good friends in other colleges. I myself have made such friends at competitions and I think the level of animosity being portrayed here is not only grossly overstated, but is only serving to fuel further hatred and unhealthy competition. NLS doesn't believe it has to win every competition, and we do attempt to learn lessons from other colleges where we feel we are lacking or could do better. That said, its evident that every college is getting its fair share of mud slinging here. While the freedom of speech is a time honoured and precious right, and we as law students are supposed to understand better than anyone its implications and use it with a level of responsibility that is sadly lacking in us, and unless a few prejudices can be put aside, the comments on these forums is only serving to incite and divide. The legal system is corrupted and screwed up enough which we should ideally be focusing our energies on instead of battling irrelevant trivialities here.
Hi, thanks for your comment. I understand your point of view, but what are we to do? Censor any comment that is critical of other colleges, censor any comment that is mean about others or censor downright vitriol? We try to excise names of individuals if possible but where do we draw the line with more general comments against institutions?
On the one hand I feel that by having this mudslinging out in the open, it makes people get it out of their system and they will get bored sooner or later of it, and move on to new topics. And I don't think anyone takes this very seriously and half of it is meant in jest.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and if you have any suggestions, however.
CLAT is killing NLU Jodhpur in a big way, the student quality has dropped down miserably...its more like a jodhpur's local college now and the impact on the performance is now strkingly visible..
he has the highest speaker scores in the other rounds too. those other speakers got the scholarship because according to bci rules if you get best speaker in the subsequent rounds you dont get the scholarship for the previous round. NUJS got the scholarship for the semis but he was the best speaker in that round also.
stop this puerile crap you're spewing and check the score sheet again. saaib's scores for semis from the three judges: 91, 87, 96 since your cognitive skills seem to be rather impaired i'll add that up for you: 278 NUJS speaker's scores (who got the scholarship for the semi final) 90, 86, 82: total= 258. the highest scorer from the nls team in the semis scored: 77, 77,78 (add it up yourself this time.. c'mon i'm sure you'll get it right now) you can see the clear difference. So if the people from your college have come back to tell tales of how THEY ACTUALLY were the best speakers tell them to do a rain check on that. NALSAR beat them by a HUGE margin of 20 points. Ishani
As a former mooter of some distinction from NUJS I can confidently say the following -
1. Most of us not in NLS are NLS-rejects :sad: So that is why we try to show off our love for our college so hardly. actuslly what we mean to say is that "Look NLS - you thought i was a unworthy but see - I have also managed to participate in a moot and beat your guys"
2. these moots dont mean anything in the long run. it never helped me in my job and actually fooled me into thinking i was good when i was not. most of the partners in the top firms are good lawyers, salemen and familymembers who have never been in a moot
3. congrats to nalsar for winning but the quality of nalsar and nujs is cent per cent behind NLS. Like Zimbabwe beating Australia once in 100 matches.
4. the faculty who conduct / coordinate these moots is grossly poor. Spend two classes with Mr. [...] and see for yourself.
There can be only three words describing BCI, 2011 organized by KIIT, Bhubanehwar "GROSSLY MISMANAGED AND DISORGANISED" Freinds I have reasons to say this. For everyones information who are not yet familiar with what happened in KIIT here are the Brief facts. 1. The moot problem was not released by the organisers on scheduled time which finally came out 10 days late. 2. The drafter of the problem [...] "proudly" claims in fornt of all the teams who reached Bhubanehwar on 9th feb that "I know there has been huge disagreement on the problem, but it wasnt my fault as I got only 45 mins to prepare it, kindly consider it" 3.The organisers of the moot had "substantially" altered the moot proposition due to its poor drafting and legal incorrectness, which infact was "not" notified to the participants "officially" through mail or any other means. But was uploaded on BCI site after a long time. It is to be noted that the moot problem was not on BCI site but on KIIT SITE i.e. www.kls.ac.in/ where no changes or clarifications were uploaded later. Further the drafter of the problem proudly admits that student who "personally" contacted him were directed to visit BCI site. Even after this amazing demonstration of organization and management when students who were agrrieved by the situation reached the organisers and [...] he assured that they will not be penalised for anything caused by the change in problem. Which infact was never adhered to and rather the promisers VANISHED from the vicinity of the moot to avoid any further questioning. It is also to be noted that NO international participant came for the most esteemd moot of India this year due to the wonderful draftsmanship and organising skills of KIIT and others involved.
as a participant of BCI 2011, I completely agree with 73. I think Mr. Gurusharan is right when he says "moot problem was not worthy of being a problem for India's most prestigious national moot" Who drafted the problem, by the way?
excusive i am a little new to the whole concept of mooting ..... but why do i feel looking at the above rankings as if this country's top law college NLSIU really is a loser in mooting ???
You're not new. You're attempting to be disingenous. To classify NLSIU as a loser, look at it's performance over the years until now. Admittedly this doesn't appear to be a good year, but let's not forget that every institution has good years and bad years. And NLS has had years where it won Jessup, where it won Lachs, where it won BCI and so on. Just like other colleges have. It's accurate to say that this year, NLS is not the best at mooting but to call the institution "a loser in mooting?" - a bit harsh no?
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This is a slap on the face.
Well done guys.
Sahi hain NALSAR.
That was uncalled for dude! We kick NLS ass the proper way...not through anonymous comments here
nls won bci 2 years in a row before this, and every alternate year before that. it's a great achievement, which it is for you guys as well. how about we leave it at that? or maybe you want to get some of your frustration out here?
also, nls lost by one point. so think before going the whole hog
NALSARITE
@ # 12: Exactly. Keep doing at the moots, and the NLS people who slime will not have any locus anyway. And likewise. Best way to settle it, I think.
In any case, good job! Congrats :-)
Anyway. It seems as if reports of NLSIU's mooting demise have been grossly exaggerated.
Thanks Mirza, Vishwajith and Shrishal for this achievement.
Wow. The very epitome of small college mentality. Why are you so obsessed about NLSIU and "kicking NLS ass". Clearly you believe that we're still the best.
This shows the ratings are rigged and we are the best...
just DM Harish left, and the coup shall be complete...
Legally India- "Don't worry master we will bring a special article by tomorrow criticizing the BCI any thing else...master"
NLSIU - " ohh i See NLU D is also doing pretty well can u please do something about it..."
Legally India- "Sure Master we will try to abuse them ASAP"
My god. GROW UP. "Insecure" and "bitter" just about sums up you guys. We know you are all NLS-rejects, and only your incompetence at cracking the CLAT is why you aren't at NLS.
That's not the point. The point is that these repeated attacks on NLS are made by people who could never make it there (although they wanted to), and consequently, are just looking for an opportunity to bring NLS down. Which is clearly shown by the sheer idiocy and vitriol of certain comments. (Check up those words in the dictionary if you don't know what they mean - because I'm quite sure you don't. No offence)
NALSAR speaker Mirza won best speaker in every round: finals, semis and quarters on the basis of speaker scores. This must be included to give NALSAR more points.
Are you Saaib Mirza?
1. we dont have to name the dogs in our campus as NLS to prove a point. now please dont deny that u havent named a dog as nalsar in ur campus just to vent out ur frustration.
2. we dont have to put up every petty achievements of ours on our website for publicity, and then u say we are press-loving people. People u can chk the nls website to verify that. we dint even put in on our website wen we came third in jessup and you wud put up even a best speaker award frm a not so important moot on ur website. INSECURITY AND ATTENTION PROBLEM. Example could be the nani palkhiwala tax moot, nalsar won the best team and u won the best speaker and u were quick enough to put that on ur website. Stop selling yourself.
3. we accept defeat gracefully, unlike u guys, u wud always have ur reasons why u lost.
4. and if u feel we are nls rejects, please chk ur facts, every year there are a bunch of people who choose nalsar over nls, u are an eleven year older institution than ours and the times change slowly, just wait for that.
5. and btw,arguendo, despite having the "cream", if u still cant make them win moots, there is definitely sth wrong with ur college
6.and @33, if you feel that just by using verbose language u are better than us, then m sure u aint from nls. GROW UP.
7. and whoevr it was who used derogatory language abt nls and LI, m sure he/she is not frm nalsar,that was just an attempt to fuel a war of words between nls and nalsar frm someone who loves to watch us fighting.
ps- saib, u are AWESOME! :D
p.s. i m from NUJS
2. Students aren't involved in what goes up on the website. Incidentally, making semis at Jessup is not the same as coming third.
3. No evidence.
4. Incorrect on facts. Very few do. Check it up yourself.
5. Arguendo? This is not a moot.
incorrect on facts? 15 people out of 70 in my batch REJECTED nls.. thats enough to show that TIMES ARE CHANGING. You want their names and ranks? will put that as well!
and dude? do u guys argue only in moots? Seriously? THATS LOGIC! LOL
This is turning out to be another NLS-NALSAR slug fest!
I am looving it!
Btw, NALSAR totally thrashed NLS in the alumni match in Delhi!
The said mistake should be rectified soon.
Dr. Tabrez Ahmad, Associate Professor of Law,
Coordinator,1st Bar Council of India International Law Moot Competition 2011.
I think its about time that the comments forum on LI was a little more strictly regulated. As a new visitor to the forum, just for a few days in fact, I feel compelled to point out that the level of slime and sludging that we as law students have indulged in is simply horrifying. Most people in every Law school will testify that all of us have good friends, sometimes very good friends in other colleges. I myself have made such friends at competitions and I think the level of animosity being portrayed here is not only grossly overstated, but is only serving to fuel further hatred and unhealthy competition. NLS doesn't believe it has to win every competition, and we do attempt to learn lessons from other colleges where we feel we are lacking or could do better. That said, its evident that every college is getting its fair share of mud slinging here. While the freedom of speech is a time honoured and precious right, and we as law students are supposed to understand better than anyone its implications and use it with a level of responsibility that is sadly lacking in us, and unless a few prejudices can be put aside, the comments on these forums is only serving to incite and divide. The legal system is corrupted and screwed up enough which we should ideally be focusing our energies on instead of battling irrelevant trivialities here.
On the one hand I feel that by having this mudslinging out in the open, it makes people get it out of their system and they will get bored sooner or later of it, and move on to new topics. And I don't think anyone takes this very seriously and half of it is meant in jest.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and if you have any suggestions, however.
Thanks, Kian
@ SAAIB MIRZA:: U PROVED IT MAN,,,
A.S.Vishwajith, SAAIB MIRZA and Shrishail Navalgund GOOD TO ALL.
saaib bhai saaib bhai
Sandipan De.
Stop gloating.
Saaib only got best speaker in the Finals. 3 other students got best speaker in the remaining 3 rounds.
Regards,
The person who realized that Mr. Comment No. 6 was bluffing. :-)
I did.
You're a liar, liar. Your panties are on FIREEEE!!!
NUJS speaker's scores (who got the scholarship for the semi final) 90, 86, 82: total= 258.
the highest scorer from the nls team in the semis scored: 77, 77,78 (add it up yourself this time.. c'mon i'm sure you'll get it right now)
you can see the clear difference. So if the people from your college have come back to tell tales of how THEY ACTUALLY were the best speakers tell them to do a rain check on that. NALSAR beat them by a HUGE margin of 20 points.
Ishani
www.facebook.com/pages/1st-Bar-Council-of-India-International-Law-Moot-Competition-2011/136433189754694?ref=ts
So, KEEP YOUR PANTIES ON dear. i assure you it will not be a pleasant sight if you are forced to set them on fire. :-)
NUJS is the best. NALSAR sucks.
1. Most of us not in NLS are NLS-rejects :sad: So that is why we try to show off our love for our college so hardly. actuslly what we mean to say is that "Look NLS - you thought i was a unworthy but see - I have also managed to participate in a moot and beat your guys"
2. these moots dont mean anything in the long run. it never helped me in my job and actually fooled me into thinking i was good when i was not. most of the partners in the top firms are good lawyers, salemen and familymembers who have never been in a moot
3. congrats to nalsar for winning but the quality of nalsar and nujs is cent per cent behind NLS. Like Zimbabwe beating Australia once in 100 matches.
4. the faculty who conduct / coordinate these moots is grossly poor. Spend two classes with Mr. [...] and see for yourself.
Freinds I have reasons to say this. For everyones information who are not yet familiar with what happened in KIIT here are the Brief facts.
1. The moot problem was not released by the organisers on scheduled time which finally came out 10 days late.
2. The drafter of the problem [...] "proudly" claims in fornt of all the teams who reached Bhubanehwar on 9th feb that "I know there has been huge disagreement on the problem, but it wasnt my fault as I got only 45 mins to prepare it, kindly consider it"
3.The organisers of the moot had "substantially" altered the moot proposition due to its poor drafting and legal incorrectness, which infact was "not" notified to the participants "officially" through mail or any other means. But was uploaded on BCI site after a long time. It is to be noted that the moot problem was not on BCI site but on KIIT SITE i.e. www.kls.ac.in/ where no changes or clarifications were uploaded later. Further the drafter of the problem proudly admits that student who "personally" contacted him were directed to visit BCI site.
Even after this amazing demonstration of organization and management when students who were agrrieved by the situation reached the organisers and [...] he assured that they will not be penalised for anything caused by the change in problem. Which infact was never adhered to and rather the promisers VANISHED from the vicinity of the moot to avoid any further questioning.
It is also to be noted that NO international participant came for the most esteemd moot of India this year due to the wonderful draftsmanship and organising skills of KIIT and others involved.
Who drafted the problem, by the way?
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