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The National Law University of Orissa at Cuttack would continue to hold its own law entrance test instead of conducting selection of students on the basis of CLAT (Common Law Entrance Test) said its vice-chancellor to blog CLAT Gyan.

The vice-chancellor said: “No CLAT. Our executive council decided to go alone as our test is better”.

It also reported that aptitude-based application of mind over memory would be preferred when the test would be prepared by the university. “We want to change the pattern but students want CLAT like paper otherwise they will have to prepare differently,” he told CLAT Gyan.

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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-10 22:51
vice-chancellor the National Law University of Orissa,Cuttack is doing great injustice to students in general and his Institute in particular. He is behaving like a fool / corrupt person. CLAT must be preferred by the Executive Council. Supreme Court had taken the initiative to hold CLAT after going through the merit of the case. VC should not sit over judgement of a large collegium. Whether VCs of Banglore, Hyderabad, Kolkata and other 10 national law schools are fools who join the CLAT? Delhi VC is also not joining CLAT because he knows how to misuse admission system as he did at Hyderabad when he was there by admitting students belonging to state's Governor from backdoor. RTI applications at NALSAR may give an insight into it. These VCs do not think from the masses perspective. They are believers in Scam system of democracy/ competition. Let us hope good sense will appear in such persons and all national law universities will join CLAT and Mr Kapil Sibbal will ensure so.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-11 07:09
Not being as vitriolic as #1 but there are some merits in his arguments, first SC had in its oral decision mentioned explicitly the futility of multiple entrance exams which increase cost and student stress, secondly the clat bashers like NLU-D or NLU-O conveniently forget that CLAT would give them much more 'national' status rather than being a regional king
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-11 21:21
The birija kid is all but flame-talk. Leave him alone.
No. 2 -
For an engineering student, there is BITSAT/AIEEE/States CET other than IIT-JEE.
For medical aspirants there is AIIMS/State CET other than PMT.
Why should the law student suffer by having only Symbi/12th Std. marks if all the NLUs decide to join CLAT? I know of dozens of good students who are not in a good NLU simply because they did badly in CLAT. One needs to have a back-up option.
AND Please stop comparing the current VC of NLUO to former VC of NALSAR.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-11 23:01
NLU Cuttack is bound to become a part of CLAT from 2011 or 2012 in the light of the 2008 Varun Bhagat judgement which started CLAT otherwise a PIL may lie against them and/or they may be guilty of contempt of court.

Actually, NLU Cuttack is too young to be part of CLAT. It appears from past experience that a NLS becomes part of CLAT only after few years, normally 3 years of its establishment. 

Every new NLU conducting own exam is highly detrimental for the NLUs as well as the CLAT brand which is still in making. This is like one of the newly set up IIT in Patna says it 'll not participate in IIT-JEE and conduct its own exam.

NLU Orissa, Delhi & Ranchi must become part of CLAT as early as possible.

Rather, CLAT committee must resolve to include every NLU set up by a separate Act of State Legislature to become a part of CLAT from the very first year to give strength to the NLU brand and to strengthen and popularise CLAT as flagship law entrance exam of the country.

Prof. Mustafa is a respected legal academic. He should help CLAT committee in making the exam better and more scientific rather than going alone and causing confusion in minds of law aspirants.

Still, Law is far behind if compared to engineering/medicine entrances. In a small state like Kerala, over 2 lakh students write EAMCET whereas from all over India, not even 20000 students write CLAT.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-12 21:46
Well. I feel that the Cuttack VC's arguments have merit. CLAT as a paper does not test the aptitude and merit of a student. It is very rote based. Quality can be achieved through a better exam. BUt then again, the con here is that people will treat NLUO as a back up college, in which case, it is not the first chice, and quality is marred anyhow. So, it is really a win-lose situation here.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Dubby 2010-12-13 18:39
Whther the CAT should be aptitude based like the LSAT or knowledge (rote) based like the CLAT is a matter of opinion. A third opinion, voiced by the TN government, against Common Tests is that they are biased towards, the well off and the urban students who hav access to and can afford coacjing classes.

For what it is worth, I believe that an Admission Test is necessary in view of the multifarious educational and marking systems prevalent in the country. Trying to compare marks from one board vis-a-vis another is like comparing apples and oranges. is desirable so that aspirants do not have to go around doing multiple exams. This test should be a common test for all students in one discipline to save students the time and expense in preparing and apppearing for multiple tests. However, the CAT should be only one input amongst others in determining admissions. We need to take a leaf from the US, where performance in SAT, GMAT, GRE, LSAT etc is not the only factor regulating admissions though a good performance definiely helps.



Take your pick of which argument you want to follow.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Dubby 2010-12-13 18:48
Sorry for the typos in the previous post. Coorrected version below

Whether the CAT should be aptitude based like the LSAT or knowledge (rote) based like the CLAT is a matter of opinion. A third opinion, voiced by the TN government, against all Common Tests is that they are biased towards the well off and the urban students who have access to and can afford coaching classes.

For what it is worth, I believe that an Admission Test is necessary in view of the multifarious educational and marking systems prevalent in the country. Trying to compare marks from one board vis-a-vis another is like comparing apples and oranges. This test should be a common test for all students in one discipline to save students the time and expense in preparing and apppearing for multiple tests. However, the CAT should be only one input amongst others in determining admissions. We need to take a leaf from the US, where performance in SAT, GMAT, GRE, LSAT etc is not the only factor regulating admissions though a good performance definiely helps.

Whatever system is followed, it should be open and transparent so that there are no allegations of nepotism, favouritism or corruption. Is that wishful thinking? Anyway, take your pick of which argument you want to follow.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-16 09:25
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I would suggest you not to be so scathing and unpleasant. Prof. Mustafa is a respected legal academic who is unfortunately not so stupid as you think he is!SO,do watch your tongue! Joining clat has both its pros and cons,and the decision has been taken after much contemplation. It is true that NLUO and NLUD will have to become part of CLAT eventually but at the same time,it is also true that the CLAT question paper isnt aptitude-based at all! If new NLUs want to set new standards by conducting separate tests,then whats wrong in it? Of course, it might not be about acquiring 'national status' as some tend to think!
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-17 06:45
I think prof. mustafa is a very learned personality and he has taken right decision by remaining away from CLAT as we have seen the CLAT 2010 paper was more of general knowledge based exam, which is not the right grounds to test a student for a Law University,If we see NLUO's entrance paper it had more of legal reasoning which could test a students legal ability and if we compare the highest scores of both the exams there is no need of furthur explanations CLAT's highest was 175 and NLUO's was 138 which is huge difference,it shows how easy CLAT paper was and NLUO maintained the standards of a "NATIONAL LAW UNIVERSITY". Prof mustafa wants NLUO to stand alone and stand tall.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-18 05:56
Patna IIT is not having its own entrance test. It admits students through common test for all IITs. 50 % of indians earn per day less than one US dollar. Large number of talents go waste in want of adequate resources. Common exams help poor to get into good institutions. It also helps to national integrity. TN is against common recruitment of All india judicial services. Wherever engineering, medical colleges do not follow common admission tests of CBSE etc, poor students as well as good institutions are at loss. Delhi NLU VC might have not directly helped Barnala's relatives (doon school students) in back door admissions when there was no CLAT, but julius ceaser's wife must be above par. Common exam would help popularising quality Law education and increasing the number of students taking the CLAT exam. iNDIA IS A VAST COUNTRY where about 70% rural population has no access to banks , post offices etc. Common tests help such students to join mainstream through single test. big and small Private law colleges are already there to serve the rich & urban with different routes of admissions. NLUs have inputs of heavy public money investment and they must be vigilant to the needs, convenience and economy of public at large. Country needs a strong, quick, efficient, effective judicial system and combination of CLAT with NLUs can be a positive step forward. National Judicial Service will also be a welcome measure in this regard. clat 2011 details should have been out by now as IIT, PMT details are out but unfortunately the NLUs/ NUJS are too casual in their approach. All state govts may be impressed to have a NLU. pATNA cnlu joined CLAT at the first opportunity and Ranchi NLU has already joined CLAT. there is no binding of joining clat only after some years of existence. Delhi, Cuttak any every other NLUs must join CLAT and save poor students from rushing here & there for making multiple applications/ DDs/ booking tickets or accomodations for appearing in different exams. Girl students particularly of rural areas are main victims because they can not travel to ten places/ ten times during May June for appearance in different exams. CLAT helps students and NLUs save money, energy and time. When a VC pleads different exams for different NLUs, I believe NLUs have definitely fallen short of appropriate talent/ leadership. lETS HOPE that good sense will prevail with the people who matter in this connection in this country.
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Recommend! +0 Objection! -0 Anonymous guest 2010-12-22 23:35
All the major exams like JEE, PMT etc have come out with 2011 plans except CLAT. HSSE of IITM , NLU Delhi etc have published the important dates but not NUJS which is going to conduct CLAT 2011. What is this? it shows the apathy on part of NUJS. NLU Banglore should continue to hold the CLAT for at least 5 years till other NLUs will stabilise itself and will be able to hold CLATs with confidence by rotation. GOI / supreme court must ensure that all national law colleges join CLAT in public interest.
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