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NLSIU Bangalore libraryNLSIU Bangalore's student recruitment committee has placed 96 per cent of its students after a law firm recruitment flurry took 28 students last week and eight students joined UK firms for training contracts.

Recruitment committee member Samiksha Godiyal said that they had now placed 48 out of 50 students who elected to take part in the organised recruitment at the law school. Around 28 students were placed only last week.

Godiyal, who has accepted an offer to join Luhtra & Luthra in Delhi, said: "We contacted a lot more firms and companies this year - we were a little apprehensive about the number they would pick."

Godiyal explained that two students each had accepted job offers from UK firms Allen & Overy, Clifford Chance, Herbert Smith and Linklaters.

She added that 11 students had now accepted offers from Amarchand Mangaldas Mumbai, seven students from Luthra & Luthra, five from Crawford Bayley as junior associates and three from S&R Associates.

J Sagar Associates (JSA) Mumbai also recruited three students and Linklaters best friend Talwar Thakore Associates recruited two, while Nishith Desai Associates (NDA) in Bangalore took on one student.

"Law firms took in larger numbers than expected," said Godiyal. "I think because last year law firms didn’t pick too many [students] they were in need this year."

Additionally, companies turned out in force again this year to bulk up their legal departments, with two students each accepting job offers from Airtel, IFMR Capital and IFMR Trust and Kotak Mahindra and one going to Hero Honda, according to Godiyal.

Consulting firm McKinsey & Co also hired two students.

ICICI recruited four students from NLSIU Bangalore, after having recruited six from Nalsar Hyderabad, National University of Advanced Legal Studies Kochi (NUALS) and one from National Law University (NLU) Jodhpur last year.

NLSIU's recruitment committee consists of seven final year students, who contact law firms and recruiting companies to interview students. Out of 77 final year students, 27 elected not to take part in the recruitment committee's organised process.

The committee normally draws up a list of recruiters and groups them in bands, according to previous recruitment records. The firms are then invited to campus in approximately that order.

"We had rolling recruitment this year so some firms came in June 2009, two more came in September 2009 and in January now the rest were placed," explained Godiyal.

Legally India first reported in June and September 2009 respectively that Amarchand Mangaldas and Luthra & Luthra had hired the first NLSIU Bangalore students of the year.

It is understood that several recruiters are still interviewing this week.

Law firms have been competing heavily for first access to students at law schools, with Trilegal having interviewed on the NUJS Kolkata campus earlier than ever last year in July.

UPDATE 29 January 2010: Legally India spoke to last year's NLS Bangalore recruitment committee member Kota Chandan. 

He explained that last year the in-house corporate and overseas law firm recruitment was much lower than this year. 

Although the committee still achieved 100% placement out of 45 students who took part, Chandan said that a few people consciously took up litigation, studied masters degrees abroad [...], whereas they might otherwise have gone for a law firm job. 

Some law firms did recruit less last year - for example, Amarchand only took on four students from campus, of which one was a pre-placement offer.

 

Kota Chanda

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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 13:28
Kian, how come the article has no info on compensation numbers?
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#2 Mooter
written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 13:50
Well, though interesting it shows the challenging way ahead for newer law schools like the one at Patna, Patiala and Lucknow which shall be coming out with their first graduating batch next year. The final placements actually reflect the potential and available talent in a particular aw school. In my knowledge universities to the extent of GNLU and NLU too have faced tough times in spite of having exceptional set of Law students. In all, the Indian legal market (as it is today) has limited scope of expansion and the Tier I has the first snatch in to the same. Also, I am amazed that if the Indian Law Firm are so choosy at NLS itself, what happens when they enter in tier II law schools. One thing for sure that high rise structures won't help the cause of worry for these young law students that too when they have batches of more than 120 students to be taken care of.

And foreign contracts..I am very sure that many law students don't even know what they are??
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written by Meerkat, 28 January 2010 13:59
There is no such thing as a free meal. Tier II law school students (like me) just have work harder and find jobs the conventional way, if i may call it that. The route to the top will be longer, but if true calibre can only be judged at the workplace, then there are years in hand to prove your worth and rise to the top.
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 15:51
At first look, 48/50 seemed impressive. But, then again - these figures from NLS are after their official recruitment week. This also implied that there were only 20 students (out of the 50 who chose to sit for recruitment) who placed in the year-round "pre" recruitment which started as early as July. I don't think these figures seem too reassuring. Other law schools such as NALSAR and NUJS which are yet to head in to their official recruitment weeks have over 30 students placed at similar firms from their pre-recruitment runs. For law schools with even larger batch-strengths, achieving "full" recruitment would seem doubtful.

On the other hand, 27 is an unusually large number of students who opted out of the recruitment. This should either reflect their apprehensions about preferable job offers, or a positive trend of students looking to pursue litigation. Let's await the figures from a few other law schools. This should give us a clearer picture of the recruitment trends for 2010.
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 16:01
The figures don't match up.

8 students (Foreign Firms) + 32 students (Law Firms) + 13 students (Companies) + 27 students (who didn't sit for recruitment) + 2 students (not placed yet). These add up to a total of 82 students, not 77.
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#6 Figures
written by kianganz, 28 January 2010 17:36
@5 Thanks, good spot. Apparently this is because some candidates received more than one offer and not all the figures mentioned resulted in acceptances.

We should have mentioned this in the original article.
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 18:43
8 UK training contracts for NLS is actually a disappointing number. NUJS and NALSAR, usually have a few less UK offers than NLS, but this year the UK offers seem to have been almost equally divided among the top 3 (at least thus far). It looks like the law school scenario has now become like the IIMs. Just like IIMs in Ahmedabad, Calcutta and Bangalore and are much ahead of the other IIMs, NLS, NALSAR and NUJS and seem to have become the 3 big boys of the law school circuit. Of course, Jindal could eventually smash all 3 if its grand plans succeed.


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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 19:17

@5 Excellent catch. There is much more glorification of the placements than what reality warrants. Its highly disappointing to see such articles laced with inaccurate and boastful information.
Its highly disgusting to see article's author later coming up with flippant excuses
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#9 calm down holmes
written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 19:51
It obviously doesn't take much to disgust #8
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#10 university of delhi
written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 20:10
Why law firms have totally ignored University of Delhi!! I am sure the here they will not get disappointment!!
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 20:46
I think the article is well written and while it's convenient to trash the author, it is much harder to appreciate the effort that has been made. 8 training contracts is a fantastic number to have gotten, especially given the circumstances this year, nujs I believe has 4 of them, not sure about nalsar.
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 21:38
@10 - typical Delhi attitude. They think they are superior simply because they are from Delhi. Do some introspection dude.
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written by Anonymous, 28 January 2010 22:05
I think the first batch of NLU Delhi will grad in 2013. Then why the bedlam over placements.
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written by Anonymous, 29 January 2010 00:38
@13
Congratulations!! You "think" right
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#15 ummm....
written by Anonymous, 29 January 2010 13:42
@13- Umm....where does NLU Delhi feature in the argument, no one even talked about NLU Delhi. Please do see what is being written and then comment. Moreover, it was University of Delhi which was being talked about not NLU Delhi, you guys are not the only law school in Delhi I suppose.

@10- well i don't know about the "typical delhi attitude" but Univ of Delhi needs to seriously revamp its methodology regarding academics and placements to compete or even come close to the Big Three.

@7- yes we will see when Jindal comes up. Lets see whether they "smash" the big three. ISB might be a great B-school but its tough for them to topple the three IIMs remember that. Make these statements when it eventually happens, i am sure you don't want a foot in the mouth situation.

The foreign firms have not been bullish in the recruitment circuit this time around, in fact it has been the Indian firms like Luthra, AMSS, Trilegal which were very intelligent this time while recruiting, they recruited students from the three law schools way before the foreign firms could land there. But yes, the foreign firms have been almost equally divided among the three. I think Nalsar and NUJS still need to have the recruitment completed.
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#16 UPDATE - Last year
written by kianganz, 29 January 2010 13:46
Last night I spoke to last year's NLS Bangalore recruitment committee member Kota Chandan.

He said that last year the in-house corporate and overseas law firm recruitment were much lower than this year.

Although the committee still achieved 100% placement out of 45 students who took part, Chandan said that a few people consciously took up litigation [...] or took masters degrees, whereas they might otherwise have gone for a higher paying law firm job.

Some law firms did recruit less last year - for example, Amarchand only took on four students from campus, of which one was a pre-placement offer.
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written by Anonymous, 30 January 2010 12:37
Why the hostility towards Jindal? Are NLS/NUJS/NALSAR insecure? Jindal has the biggest campus among all the colleges and has a lot of finances. Just like the privately-run ISB has toppled the top 3 IIMs (all sarkari colleges) , Jindal will also topple the top 3 law schools, which are all government run and with much less financial resources.
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#18 Legal Dodo
written by Anonymous, 30 January 2010 14:09
@ 17 - Never knew that IIMs are "sarkari colleges" and "top 3 law schools . . . are . . . government run."

Money and size of the campus will not ensure a law school's success. Not even the faculty. The Jindal faculty does seem to have good credentials but they can only be catalysts. Its the quality of students that matters. In all fairness, its too early to comment about the quality of students at Jindal - but if the ability to pay 7 lakhs a year gets you a seat in Jindal - that speaks only about the affluence of the students' parents - not the ability of the students themselves.

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#19 @17
written by Anonymous, 30 January 2010 14:59
to put it simply.......they have 6.5 lakhs per year
and
we have the brains! :)
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#20 Pranav
written by Anonymous, 30 January 2010 15:17
Re. #4 & 5, not a problem. :)

Please, refrain from leveling unwarranted accusations against the author for such oversights. It hardly seemed intentional! Besides, Kian was merely reporting facts.

Re. #17:

The "big three" have no reason to be "insecure" as such. We all hope that JGLS comes up well. It is akin to a wheel completing another rotation. Let me explain - NALSAR / NUJS (in that order) came up in the late 90's at a time when NLS pretty much dominated the scene. What we see today is healthy competition between the three.

At the same time - I think there is cause for worry. Some of the claims being made by JGLS are exaggerated and incorrect. For instance, please don't let them fool you into believing that JGLS is the only law school which intends to offer a "global" experience. That trend started a long time ago with regular visiting faculty at NLS / NUJS / NALSAR / etc, arguably from amongst the best institutions from around the world. Indian law students have been regularly picked up by foreign firms - which should dispel any myths about (the lack of) our "global" appeal.

It's interesting that you mention the financial aspect. While a private university may offer deeper pockets - the fact of the matter is that it is an industry. The cost of the faculty / the infrastructure would ultimately be transferred onto the students and would, at best, be subsidized for a few. Believe it or not, but when it comes to such matters, the government is your best friend! Here I would take the example of the medical profession. Government run medical schools, which charge peanuts for the education, churn out the bulk of the "top-notch" doctors. At the same time, private universities have played an important role by acting as pace-setters to prevent the education field from stagnating. But ask any student sitting for a medical entrance, and she will tell you that this rarely takes away the charm of the government run universities.

There is room for quality legal education and we, the students, should be a happier lot if we have wider options to choose from. As long as the JGLS delivers what we reasonably expect it to - that is, to offer quality education coupled with good infrastructure - I'm as excited as you are. But if I was sitting for admissions today, I'm afraid I'm still not entirely convinced of what they are selling.

In the long run, hopefully, we should see some positive interaction and competition between all of these law schools. The worried lot must be the newer government backed law schools which have sprung up all over the country - because they would be the first to feel the pressure to pace up their development. But the bigger question would be - would these schools even compete for the same students for admissions? Or, is the competition more with the likes of Amity Law School, and other private law schools?
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#21 The Rock
written by Anonymous, 31 January 2010 14:55
please do not compare JGLS with amity !

for three years in a row ISB has been in the top 20 b-schools in the world. IIMs feature nowhere in the list. ISB could achieve this feat because it is wealthier and pays more to teachers, thus attracting better talent. because ISB is privately run there and is no interference from govt and politicians in academic matters. all i am saying is that it is really foolish to dismiss JGLS because of the example set by ISB. i don't see why JGLS cannot emulate ISB. why can't JGLS be the #1 law school?

as for people who say that NLS/NUJS/NALSAR students are more intelligent, that is pure arrogance and insecurity. we will see what the JGLS-haters have to say 5 years from now!
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written by Anonymous, 31 January 2010 16:56
The total fees of JGLS is 45 lakhs + personal expenses. What the f*** is wrong with these people. We are Indians not Americans. I can say that 70% of people aspiring to get into JGLS will be wavered due to the outrageous fee structure. NLS(s) have a bigger adhvantage over JGLS in terms of reputation, strong alumni base etc etc.
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#23 @ 12 "typical Delhi attitude"
written by Anonymous, 31 January 2010 17:34
Some Introspection! Oh yeah! right! Will have to think about it!
If you have some suggestions then shoot!
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written by Anonymous, 31 January 2010 18:00
JGLS had 500 application from which they chose 120 people. Imagine the quality of the students entering. The JGLS classroom is an average Indian classroom. And now take students of NLS-NUJS-NALSAR. Top 200 rankers from 12 thousand applicants. Virtually the toppers of a class.

JGLS entrance exam, the much touted indian LSAT was a disaster too. They ended up picking the remnants of CLAT; people who ranks as low as 5000 got picked!

No doubt JGLS has brilliant faculty. But when the seeds are poor the gardner can't do much. But if the seeds are good they can themselves grow into a robust forest!
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#25 ummm... again
written by Anonymous, 31 January 2010 18:12
@21: "as for people who say that NLS/NUJS/NALSAR students are more intelligent, that is pure arrogance and insecurity. we will see what the JGLS-haters have to say 5 years from now!"

Dude there are no JGLS haters..first come up to that stage then we will talk. Perform at the level where all the other law schools have performed, do well, show your talent and then speak. don't make statements in the air, you will fall down hard. having the "biggest campus" and "massive funding" doesn't ensure quality, the three law schools have not come up overnight. they have shown their quality over the years time and again. so atleast have some standing (not only financial) and then talk.
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 01:02
The argument that bigger campus=better campus is silly. When Madhav Menon set up NUJS he was offered either a 30 acre plot on the outskirts of Calcutta or a 5 acre plot close to the heart of the city. He wisely chose the latter. NUJS is only a 20 minute drive from Park Street (which is to Calcutta what Connaught Place is to Delhi). The college is also surrounded by hotels, multiplexes, malls etc. How many of the national law colleges can boast of such a convenient location? I think it's much better to have a smaller campus in the city centre rather than a big campus in the outskirts.
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#27 Some sincere thoughts
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 13:58
Hey friends, I think we are missing the woods for the trees. See, the IIMs entrance considered the toughest in the world - from 2.4 lacs only 2000 are selected, while at Harvard and MIT Sloan there are only 10-20 applications for a seat. Still the IIMs dont make it to the worlds best 100 while Harvard and MIT do so every year.???? What does this mean?? Just because 12000 took CLAT and NLUs selected 1500 out of them, doe sthat make NLU crowd great?? No not necessarily. This only means that the entrance test is tougher just because there are X-times the number of seats - it doesnt mean that the entrance process is the best or the faculty is the best or the students that will come out will be the best. We all have to be more circumspect and wait for long haul for things to iron out and rankins to emerge. I am afraid this does not make the job of choosing the right college easy for candidates right NOW. But trust me the JGLS folks have asembled a really great faculty team and the effect is bound to show.
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#28 i agree
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 14:39
I agree with ya dude.... # 27. Entrance exam business in India the way it is run by the so called "elite colleges" is nothing more than keeping their professors busy in something other than teaching & research and is CRAP...the way it is run...we saw CAT in 2009.

For comment # 24 - Just hear Dr Ventakraman who won Nobel Prize for Chemistry, has gone on record saying he was a "leftover" of Engg / PMT entrance in India and he could not qualify any engg or medical entrance and which is why he chose to do BSc / MSc from a just above average university in India - M S University Baroda ( which is not the best or a top 3 universities - the "so called" best universities are Delhi Univ, JNU, Kolkata Univ...etc) and then went abroad... and went on to win the Nobel. What time played out over the years is a different story for everyone to see.
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#29 Legal Dodo
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 15:16
@28. Dr. "Won't Quit a Raman's" example only vindicates the theory that it is the quality of students that matter in ensuring an institution's success - not large campuses and deep pockets.
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#30 A Response
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 15:41
# 29 How does one know the students are good? On the basis of CLAT?? Do you think all NLU students can write good leagl summaries...if yes then please go and conduct an honest interview withh the NLU VCs and write a post here.
Just because N-times candidates write CLAT for X number of seats and therefore it makes a great selection - NO, if that was the case we would have dozens of Nobles for IIT-JEE candidates who are selected in INtegrated MSc courses at the "hallowed IITs and IISc".......... Come on !! these exams are more like lottery..what has a question on biology (like what is spleen from CLAT 2009) got to do with legal aptitude? Even the IAS is now going to be based on aptitude from myabe 2011 or so, as they dont want "rattu totaas" in civil services. Once gain just becasue 2 lac candidates sit for 2000 seats doesnt make an exam great if it just selecting "rattu totas". There can always be a counter arguement to my statement here but you can take away fact from what I have stated and Facts are Sacred while Opinion is Free.
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 16:03
@27, 28, 30
Sour grapes eh?
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#32 Response
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 16:31
"Grapes" being "sour" is your Opinion...and as I said Facts are sacred and what I stated are facts.......... :)
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#33 Mooter
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 16:34
Placements do tend to invite lots of hot discussions Bcoz no doubt they are the last word when it comes to reputation of a law school in India. Just like IITs and IIMs, in the coming decade law schools too will be ranked on the same criteria. And as argued regarding the claim that better infrastructure leads to quality education I beg to differ. Though its an important attribute, but for some one like me coming form a NLU which has arguably the best infrastructure in India (RMLNLU, Lucknow) I would like to add that there are more important things around but nothing beats the quality of student intake. Well, as they say "A Gr8 university is not known by the number of students it selects but by the number of students it rejects"..!!Any law school has a long way to go and generations to pass before matching these figures at Bangalore, I m sure ppl at Kolkata & Hyderabad will agree coz they have the half way now.
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#34 Response again..
written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 17:34
To # 33 - To your "A Gr8 university is not known by the number of students it selects but by the number of students it rejects"...then how come Harvard or Oxford which reject only about 15-20 students for every 1 they select - why are Hardvard or Oxford great? How come no Indian University (yes sir..NOT even one university from India made it to Global Top 100 University rankings??)
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 22:15
Its funny how JGLS supporters believe that JGLS has the best law faculty in India. Most of the faculty are in experienced new LLM grads. Merely because one has an LLM from a foreign college, they do not become great teachers. With the exception of a few, most of them are young grads with no or little teaching experience. Everyone who has done an LLM at a good univ abroad knows that it doesn't take much to pass an LLM once you get admission (which is not really difficult).
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 22:52
Don't worry folks... NLU grads and lawyers in general are boasting of them now. The figures quoted for clat exam (12000) are of 2009. The so called NLU grads forgot that when they took admission, they were the waste products of the school system. What they are being offered in placements is due to liberalization of indian economy which has boomed in recent years. Of course, a law firm would starve if MBA or Engineers in a company fail to generate business. IIT Rocks.. IIM Rocks..
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 23:09
I am a student of the 5th year at the National Law School. I have a couple of points to make here -

@ Kian Ganz - Just wanted to clarify that Kota Chandan is not a member of the Recruitment Committee at NLSIU. He graduated from law school in 2009 and is not a student. I do hope that you wrote this only under a mistaken assumption. Kota Chandan was on the recruitment committee for the batch of 2009 when he was a student here.

A quick point on the issue of foreign law firm recruitment - The number of students who have bagged London training contracts are much fewer than earlier. The only reason for that is the recessionary trend which impacted foreign law firms much more than Indian law firms. Many firms cut back on recruitment and deferred existing training contracts to cut costs. However, there is no denial that the number recruited by English law firms last year was higher.

Another curious phenomenon was the way firms like AMSS recruited. They went all out aggressive to bag the top rank holders as a change of policy. Earlier years had seen AMSS recruiting students of mid level and even very low level CGPAs. One wonders what called for a change in policy.

[Must be a misunderstanding - article and comment both said that Kota Chandan was on "last year's" committee. -Kian]
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 23:18
By the way I know who posted the last comment "MR.36" "seriously dude" you have no work . After being literally ashamed in a forum which you can never forget "I am sure-off" you are again appearing hear that to in a clandstine manner "appreciated".
Are you still out of job? Float me your C.V. I will help you in getting a job. I know you are frustrated every one is getting a job and you are nowhere. Have patience Justice will be done to you
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written by Anonymous, 01 February 2010 23:41
even nliu bhopal hold a quite decent placemnt ..nls has done a great job as the name says..cheers lawers !!
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#40 ...
written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 00:04
lol another great Indian education debate/slugfest. Let us all log out and return to our miserable lives :D
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#41 ...j
written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 00:42
It is so amusing to see so many people slugging nlsiu and trying to trump JGLS etc. I would just like you to remember ... your boss in office is from nls ... so keep your sentiments under wraps when u start working !
also ... many people opted out of the recruitment process at nlsiu because unlike other law schools we are no longer in the race for "who-wants-to-be-an-amarchand-partner". People are writing the civil services, joining academics, doing public policy, joining litigation and even Teach For India. That is called having a conscience. In the years to come NLSIU will teach the rest this lesson as well.
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written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 01:39
correction there.. the NLS(s) are leading the way.. several students here too (NUJS/NALSAR) have shown us the way forward with such conscientious choices.. but I do wish to discount the upcoming law schools from this debate because I think such choices are a matter of maturity for any law school and I am hopeful that we will see a good number of students rise up above the "rat-race" over a period of time..

@ #41.. arrogant, much?
if it really is a good "showdown" which gives you the kicks, care to draw comparisons between equals? it's grossly unfair for you to compare NLS with ANY law school which doesn't date back to the 1980's. Having said that, I think NUJS and NALSAR do a phenomenal job of putting up a good fight.

@ all other posting here - please spare us from your mercilessly drafted posts until you can spellcheck and/or construct fluent sentences.
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written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 01:41
correction there.. the NLS(s) are leading the way.. several students here too (NUJS/NALSAR) have shown us the way forward with such conscientious choices.. but I do wish to discount the upcoming law schools from this debate because I think such choices are a matter of maturity for any law school and I am hopeful that we will see a good number of students rise up above the "rat-race" over a period of time..

@ #41.. arrogant, much?
if it really is a good "showdown" which gives you the kicks, care to draw comparisons between equals? it's grossly unfair for you to compare NLS with ANY law school which doesn't date back to the 1980's. Having said that, I think NUJS and NALSAR do a phenomenal job of putting up a good fight.

@ all others posting here - please spare us from your mercilessly drafted posts until you can spellcheck and/or construct fluent sentences.
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#44 Mooter
written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 12:29
YOu guys dont worry about Law school at Patiala, most of the 4th year students are interested in litigation and others who are interested in law firms have got PPO, the university is rising day by day and doing goood in mooots and academics
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written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 14:00
#41: "I would just like you to remember ... your boss in office is from nls ... so keep your sentiments under wraps when u start working ! "

the first batch of nls graduated in the late 1980s, which means that their oldest graduate must be in his/her mid-40s. as far as i know, most law firm bosses are DU/GLC graduates in their 60s (it helps when your family also happens to own the firm).

unless of course, by "boss" you mean a senior associate/junior partner
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#46 lawman
written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 14:01
nice discussion indeed,each and everyone refuting the claims of others,i think some people trying to elaborate the doubts of their minds,whether they are right or not,i will say only performance will prove who is the best,we should not waste our useful energy in ridiculous discussions,rather we should accept that top 3 r best
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written by Anonymous, 02 February 2010 14:38
WHAT THE HELL IS SO GREAT ABOUT THE JGLS FACULTY???

just visit the websites of NLS/NALSAR/NUJS...there are many teachers with equally impressive bios (including "phoren" llms, which seems to be a big factor for some reason). the vice chancellors of the top 3 are also highly respected academics (jaygovind for NLS, mp singh for NUJS) . if JGLS is charging 7 lakhs just because of the faculty then that is unjustified. moreover, JGLS is in sonepat, where costs should be lower than the metros.

and for those ridiculing sarkari colleges, the top 3 get a lot of grants from the UGC, ford foundation etc;
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written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 00:06
@ 41
NLS is not doing any new thing.. It is just following the model 'set up' by IITs/IIMs. Of course, who does not want to be in news? Its very heartening to see that budding lawyers trying to 'prove' that they do exist while conveniently forgetting that any company from which a law firm gets work from would be headed by an IIT/IIM grad. So forget your so called 'bosses'..! Sour grapes may be :P
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#49 aww...
written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 00:30
@47- aww!! still haven't got a job na have you?, you will get it man, believe in yourself and also the rigorous selection procedure you have gone through.

Unfortunately we have jobs right now and that too which pays really well, very very very sour grapes i say, what can we do, sorry man we went through nothing when it came to a college selection procedure and even then landed with these jobs!! Damn!! Its not fair ya!!

Hey!! there is a blogging competition going around why don't you try your hand at it and talk about this very stuff you have been rattling about, you might end up winning some bucks. Just a suggestion since you happen to be the "genius who has gone through a rigorous selection procedure".

p.s: FYI, its not 41 speaking here!!
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written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 00:45
I cannot believe there are people on this forum who actually think that even a comparison can be made between JGLS and law school (and by "law school" i mean NLSIU and only NLSIU). Just shows why you are at JGLS and not NLS...i mean really???? Where are you coming from????? but thank you so much for having this debate on a public forum. you have given all of us at NLS much much entertainment :)
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written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 01:36
I agree #49 and #41
The partner in your firm is probably from NLS. People getting the Rhodes Scholarship...from NLS. Now the reason we've been driven to point this out, because our institution is being attacked needlessly. Not once anywhere in the article will you find a Law Schoolite making sweeping statements against other colleges. Agreed, JGLS maybe a good law college. But the only way you can draw attention to your institution is by criticising NLS? Does that magically make your institution 'better'?
Why are you assuming that students did not sit for the recruitment week only because they were afraid of not getting a job? Not only are you being presumptuous but also belligerent if a law schoolite tells you otherwise.
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#52 XIII
written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 17:49
dont think you can compare yourselves to us... to do that you have to come here and see how easy we got it... those figures aren’t exact because we really dont care too much about them.. anyone who wants a job can get one- our question before recruitment is what kind of work we would like to do.. we dont revel in telling the world about how many people got 7 offers and how many got 6 and how exorbitant sums are being paid to almost every person graduating here because we are not out to compete with any college in this country...our competition lies elsewhere and outside and can not be won by comparing which college staffs the most law offices… so please, i have no doubt that there are some very fine institutions in this country, but this is NLS.. We are legal education in India and ask anyone in any college anywhere in India, which law school would they like to be in and they are all going to give you a unanimous answer..
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written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 19:10
"but this is NLS.. We are legal education in India and ask anyone in any college anywhere in India, which law school would they like to be in and they are all going to give you a unanimous answer.."

@ The incessant JGLS campaigning...
Worth a laugh or two! Please, do carry on..

@ #51
Amongst a lot of blah blah and a few decent points there (yes, there were a few.. before the quoted text, of course).. there were a couple of interesting references... its hilarious how students from NLSIU (and by NLSIU I mean NLSIU alone) try to hog the tags - "law school" and "Law Schoolites"..!!

Please, get over yourselves. NLS, when established, was quite the revolution. We've come a little further down the road since then. Today, there is very little that sets apart the top few law schools (No. Here, I don't mean NLSIU and NLSIU alone.) Yet, there are repeated attempts (like the posts above) to stare down at other law schools - which are regrettable. Regrettable indeed. Because this aura of arrogance betrays the very sense behind the foundation of NLSIU.

Although this wasn't in furtherance of any point to be made in this debate, which seems to be have taken a rather useless turn, it is just abhorrent to come to think of this "arrogance" (for the lack of a better word) when one knows very well that the founder of NLS went on to set up a couple of other very fine institutions which have competed extremely well on an uneven playing field (C'mon! Nearly a decade of a head-start later!). Nonetheless, there has been little to tell anything apart in between the top few law schools - moots, scholarships, recruitments, etc.. What does #51 mean when he says "we are the legal education in India" anyways? Comments like these.. well, they're just a little heart-breaking. C'mon! You know better! :)
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#54 XIII
written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 20:01
ha ha..impressive.. however,

1. NLS is the best not because of when it was created or who made it or who teaches here but because the top 57 students who want to do law come here.

2. wrt moots etc., as i mentioned, perhaps you should compare international preformances too!!! i assure you we are heads and shoulders above the rest. further, most indian moots etc. are attended by first and second years and they still manage to win usually!! further, in debates, NLS is perhaps one of the best colleges in the country and amongst the top 3 in asia.. there is no way any other college can begin to "compete" with us..

3. its not arrogance- its advice- stop comparing..
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written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 21:00
@51..Dude you nailed this discussion, really.

It will be great if other NLUs try to make their own road rather than follow the one made by NLSIU. But any comparison with the "leader" so far is not worth it..!!
Happy recruitments to all.
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#56 cmmn
written by Anonymous, 03 February 2010 22:49
Why people are so obssesed here ?
For jgls guys dude always remember its the students who makes the college.
I know few toppers of top law schools of the country and i can assure you its only average guys who brag. Toppers are in a different world altogether and that is the reason they are toppers.
Dude have you ever heard Sachin, Zidane,federer,schumacher bragging about themselves?
You all are in best law schools of the country to become the best lawyers of the country.
Grow up kids..... its not +2 anymore.
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#57 something fishy!!!!!!!
written by Anonymous, 04 February 2010 01:29
congragulations! if ur nos truly represent the 'hard' facts, if not better luck next time! nonetheless, it is apparent jgls propoganda seems to meander through some of the posts
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written by Anonymous, 04 February 2010 02:56
@ # 53
thanks, but no thanks. advice really, really not solicited. whoever needs it, will no doubt come running to you - now that you've emerged, hands down, as the champion of this cause. until then, maybe us fools - the "lesser" law students - would like to while away our jobless little lives expressing an opinion, but just an opinion i assure you, every now and then.

please, lets not make this a bragging session. the less said, the better. the points you made, and a few others, are common to a few law schools. just because you seem to be oblivious to the achievements of other law schools gives you no better right to take a high ground.

"the top 57 students".. erm.. so one student scores half a mark more than another in an entrance exam on account of, say, a question on general knowledge.. as per your reasoning, the student with the half a mark more would no doubt make a much better lawyer - hands down? no "comparisons" drawn? lay out the red carpets, for our lords are here? irrespective of which law school he studies at, just as long as he's at NLS? lol.. i hope you see the many flaws in that theory.. (but then again, judging by your arguments - i really am not sure. ask around a little, indulge yourself.)

anyhow, this debate has reached a point of futility now. your arrogance, on the other hand, seems to know no bounds. if you really think you're at the top, a better way to pretend would be to at least act like it. if we really are exchanging advice here, words for you to hold dear - please. it's time now. get over yourselves.
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written by Anonymous, 04 February 2010 03:10
# 51 "those figures aren't exact because we don't care too much about them"..

riiight.. you, obviously, have got the absolute grasp of the discussion there!! hate to break to you mate, but the "error" was a slight over-sight in the reporting by Kian.. (hardly anything to do with the university?).. and, well, those who sat for recruitment certainly 'did' care about those figures..

"our question before recruitment is what kind of work we would like to do"..

as compared to the common practice in other law schools where an arbitrarily chosen council is appointed to prepare a randomized list of career options and then thrust down the applicants' throats. all detractors are shot in the back (or, in the rarest of rare cases, subjected to your arguments). jeez, why didn't students at my law school think of this fancy recruitment strategy!
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#60 Vipul Nanda
written by Anonymous, 04 February 2010 03:54
This is clearly quite a slugfest, here.

I think at some basic level, there is little to differentiate NLS, NALSAR and NUJS - other than the fact that the top tier of the students giving the CLAT join NLS. Now, the merits of that test or lack thereof aside, there is a clear reputation that NLS enjoys that makes students want to join here. But NUJS and NALSAR are also very much coveted, and I think this is doing good things for legal education - whether it is in litigation or in corporate law.

As for JGLS' much vaunted faculty, I just noticed that Charles G. Maddox (an LLM candidate from NLS) is now an Assistant Professor. And while another, Abhayraj Naik is probably the smartest person I know, collectively the faculty isn't quite worth 7 lakhs. Not to mention, the students getting in are likely to be less academically diligent and more financially well off.

And I think the point that some people were trying to make was that people had more of a choice as to the nature of the job they wanted to take. And I think there's nothing wrong with that, or promoting it. I'm sorry if some of my fellow NLS-ites come across as arrogant to you. That being said, I'm glad that NALSAR, NUJS and NLS are competing - it'll bring the best out of all 3, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
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#61 !!!!!!!!!!
written by Anonymous, 04 February 2010 14:33
hey just stop making such remark that damage the reputation of ur institutes,all those who r crying over best debate should need to know the one thing that is to compare things on ground of which law school students has done anything worth good for country,the main objective with which these law school were set to produce legal brains that can do good for country as well as for suffering humanity,we r not doing anything good but we r joining lavish law firms,we r such helplee bugs who r wasting our national resources,on this ground we can say that all law schools have failed,in this parameter decide which nls is best and which one is best..........lets continue it.
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#62 To all
written by Anonymous, 06 February 2010 00:18
Infantile arguments… just makes me wonder whether u people are actually capable of some common sense. Let me begin by saying something which otherwise I would have kept in the end. There is no significant difference between a Delhi Law fac grad or a NLS grad. If at all there is some it is perhaps more due to the environ and milieu of a NLS than anything else.
Which is why I am horribly surprised to see folks singing about the infrastructure, faculty, placements and seniors (read: partners in law firm). Enough.
And also the tags - most notably the Big 3. By the way who coined this Big 3 or rather copied/ inspired… whatever? The self acclaimed BIG 3?, I am sure many of you would be gunning to show me the LST or India Today ratings. Well, grow up as you are no more vying for a slot in a law school, rather you are already there or thereabout. We most of us know what, when, why and how these ratings are done… nothing extraordinary about it… remember even a saif or a chatwal can get padma awards. For those still pondering… you are in the wrong field… stop masquerading.
I write because I am at loss to see you wasting time and energy in criticizing each other’s law school. Actually, life is not just all about the NLS tag or which law school did u go to?... its much more … probably more than what you had initially bargained for. Amarchand, luthra or E&Y is just a stopover… the quest is beyond…
By the way, I am a NLS grad (2007)… have worked in the topmost law firm in India and currently in one of the Big 4 consultancy. And there is nothing official about it. It’s OK to remain normal and carry some sense.
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#63 @ Comment 20 - "The Rock"
written by Anonymous, 06 February 2010 02:03
I agree with you that it is unfair to compare two law schools, namely Amity and JGLS. I also agree that JGLS looks as a promising prospect. However, I cannot endorse your sentiment, which seems to disparage Amity Grads. While it is true that we do not get the opportunity of campus placements as NLS does, several of us go into litigation (often out of choice, many of my fellow Amity colleagues are also in the lower judiciary), even keeping in mind the long gestation period many of our graduates by most accounts are doing well. For those of my colleagues who were intent on corporate they have slowly worked there way into top tier Indian and Global law firms. It takes us time but we do get there. At the end every law school has its own flavor, comparing it only by the type of placements in a certain type of firm based on the pay package would be a flawed approach. I wish all the best to JGLS since I am an ardent believer in the capacity of private enterprise and hope it reaches the top.
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#64 Justice
written by Anonymous, 07 February 2010 22:58
With goodwill towards one and all...
In the longer run and in the end it doesn't really matter which law school one come's from. There's always room at the top. Knowledge is power and if a person is talented then he or she can rise to the top, although it may take a longer time period and grads from well established law schools do have a head start. For those who don't make it to the top, there's not much to worry about. There's plenty of room for everyone in terms of placements. What matters is how dedicated one is in what one is doing.
P.S. Criticising this comment will not help you live a better life, hard work will :-)
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#65 Jindalite
written by Anonymous, 15 February 2010 11:19
JGLS is not trying to say that they are better than the other law schools. It is indeed rather surprising to compare colleges that have been running for years to one that is barely half a year old. Of course like every new enterprise, it too tries to portray the image that it wants to be in the contention of the top spot. When has friendly competition ever done any harm ?

Our country needs more institutions to impart good education and giving new colleges a chance is better than snubbing them for reasons like fees and location.
I mean seriously, how insecure are you guys ??

It would take some time for the college to build up a reputation and finally get the recognition it duly deserves.

Yes, we do know that it would be very hard to be one of the top 3 law schools and we are taking our steps cautiously.

One last thing, financial levels has nothing to do with "academic diligence".
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