Recruitment committee member Samiksha Godiyal said that they had now placed 48 out of 50 students who elected to take part in the organised recruitment at the law school. Around 28 students were placed only last week.
Godiyal, who has accepted an offer to join Luhtra & Luthra in Delhi, said: "We contacted a lot more firms and companies this year - we were a little apprehensive about the number they would pick."
Godiyal explained that two students each had accepted job offers from UK firms Allen & Overy, Clifford Chance, Herbert Smith and Linklaters.
She added that 11 students had now accepted offers from Amarchand Mangaldas Mumbai, seven students from Luthra & Luthra, five from Crawford Bayley as junior associates and three from S&R Associates.
J Sagar Associates (JSA) Mumbai also recruited three students and Linklaters best friend Talwar Thakore Associates recruited two, while Nishith Desai Associates (NDA) in Bangalore took on one student.
"Law firms took in larger numbers than expected," said Godiyal. "I think because last year law firms didn’t pick too many [students] they were in need this year."
Additionally, companies turned out in force again this year to bulk up their legal departments, with two students each accepting job offers from Airtel, IFMR Capital and IFMR Trust and Kotak Mahindra and one going to Hero Honda, according to Godiyal.
Consulting firm McKinsey & Co also hired two students.
ICICI recruited four students from NLSIU Bangalore, after having recruited six from Nalsar Hyderabad, National University of Advanced Legal Studies Kochi (NUALS) and one from National Law University (NLU) Jodhpur last year.
NLSIU's recruitment committee consists of seven final year students, who contact law firms and recruiting companies to interview students. Out of 77 final year students, 27 elected not to take part in the recruitment committee's organised process.
The committee normally draws up a list of recruiters and groups them in bands, according to previous recruitment records. The firms are then invited to campus in approximately that order.
"We had rolling recruitment this year so some firms came in June 2009, two more came in September 2009 and in January now the rest were placed," explained Godiyal.
Legally India first reported in June and September 2009 respectively that Amarchand Mangaldas and Luthra & Luthra had hired the first NLSIU Bangalore students of the year.
It is understood that several recruiters are still interviewing this week.
Law firms have been competing heavily for first access to students at law schools, with Trilegal having interviewed on the NUJS Kolkata campus earlier than ever last year in July.
UPDATE 29 January 2010: Legally India spoke to last year's NLS Bangalore recruitment committee member Kota Chandan.
He explained that last year the in-house corporate and overseas law firm recruitment was much lower than this year.
Although the committee still achieved 100% placement out of 45 students who took part, Chandan said that a few people consciously took up litigation, studied masters degrees abroad [...], whereas they might otherwise have gone for a law firm job.
Some law firms did recruit less last year - for example, Amarchand only took on four students from campus, of which one was a pre-placement offer.
Indian, UK recruiters scoop 48 NLS Bangalore 5th-years
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And foreign contracts..I am very sure that many law students don't even know what they are??
On the other hand, 27 is an unusually large number of students who opted out of the recruitment. This should either reflect their apprehensions about preferable job offers, or a positive trend of students looking to pursue litigation. Let's await the figures from a few other law schools. This should give us a clearer picture of the recruitment trends for 2010.
8 students (Foreign Firms) + 32 students (Law Firms) + 13 students (Companies) + 27 students (who didn't sit for recruitment) + 2 students (not placed yet). These add up to a total of 82 students, not 77.
We should have mentioned this in the original article.
Its highly disgusting to see article's author later coming up with flippant excuses
Congratulations!! You "think" right
@10- well i don't know about the "typical delhi attitude" but Univ of Delhi needs to seriously revamp its methodology regarding academics and placements to compete or even come close to the Big Three.
@7- yes we will see when Jindal comes up. Lets see whether they "smash" the big three. ISB might be a great B-school but its tough for them to topple the three IIMs remember that. Make these statements when it eventually happens, i am sure you don't want a foot in the mouth situation.
The foreign firms have not been bullish in the recruitment circuit this time around, in fact it has been the Indian firms like Luthra, AMSS, Trilegal which were very intelligent this time while recruiting, they recruited students from the three law schools way before the foreign firms could land there. But yes, the foreign firms have been almost equally divided among the three. I think Nalsar and NUJS still need to have the recruitment completed.
He said that last year the in-house corporate and overseas law firm recruitment were much lower than this year.
Although the committee still achieved 100% placement out of 45 students who took part, Chandan said that a few people consciously took up litigation or were willing to settle for lower salaries at tier 2 firms, whereas they might otherwise have gone for a higher paying law firm job.
Some law firms did recruit less last year - for example, Amarchand only took on four students from campus, of which one was a pre-placement offer.
Money and size of the campus will not ensure a law school's success. Not even the faculty. The Jindal faculty does seem to have good credentials but they can only be catalysts. Its the quality of students that matters. In all fairness, its too early to comment about the quality of students at Jindal - but if the ability to pay 7 lakhs a year gets you a seat in Jindal - that speaks only about the affluence of the students' parents - not the ability of the students themselves.
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Please, refrain from leveling unwarranted accusations against the author for such oversights. It hardly seemed intentional! Besides, Kian was merely reporting facts.
Re. #17:
The "big three" have no reason to be "insecure" as such. We all hope that JGLS comes up well. It is akin to a wheel completing another rotation. Let me explain - NALSAR / NUJS (in that order) came up in the late 90's at a time when NLS pretty much dominated the scene. What we see today is healthy competition between the three.
At the same time - I think there is cause for worry. Some of the claims being made by JGLS are exaggerated and incorrect. For instance, please don't let them fool you into believing that JGLS is the only law school which intends to offer a "global" experience. That trend started a long time ago with regular visiting faculty at NLS / NUJS / NALSAR / etc, arguably from amongst the best institutions from around the world. Indian law students have been regularly picked up by foreign firms - which should dispel any myths about (the lack of) our "global" appeal.
It's interesting that you mention the financial aspect. While a private university may offer deeper pockets - the fact of the matter is that it is an industry. The cost of the faculty / the infrastructure would ultimately be transferred onto the students and would, at best, be subsidized for a few. Believe it or not, but when it comes to such matters, the government is your best friend! Here I would take the example of the medical profession. Government run medical schools, which charge peanuts for the education, churn out the bulk of the "top-notch" doctors. At the same time, private universities have played an important role by acting as pace-setters to prevent the education field from stagnating. But ask any student sitting for a medical entrance, and she will tell you that this rarely takes away the charm of the government run universities.
There is room for quality legal education and we, the students, should be a happier lot if we have wider options to choose from. As long as the JGLS delivers what we reasonably expect it to - that is, to offer quality education coupled with good infrastructure - I'm as excited as you are. But if I was sitting for admissions today, I'm afraid I'm still not entirely convinced of what they are selling.
In the long run, hopefully, we should see some positive interaction and competition between all of these law schools. The worried lot must be the newer government backed law schools which have sprung up all over the country - because they would be the first to feel the pressure to pace up their development. But the bigger question would be - would these schools even compete for the same students for admissions? Or, is the competition more with the likes of Amity Law School, and other private law schools?
for three years in a row ISB has been in the top 20 b-schools in the world. IIMs feature nowhere in the list. ISB could achieve this feat because it is wealthier and pays more to teachers, thus attracting better talent. because ISB is privately run there and is no interference from govt and politicians in academic matters. all i am saying is that it is really foolish to dismiss JGLS because of the example set by ISB. i don't see why JGLS cannot emulate ISB. why can't JGLS be the #1 law school?
as for people who say that NLS/NUJS/NALSAR students are more intelligent, that is pure arrogance and insecurity. we will see what the JGLS-haters have to say 5 years from now!
If you have some suggestions then shoot!
JGLS entrance exam, the much touted indian LSAT was a disaster too. They ended up picking the remnants of CLAT; people who ranks as low as 5000 got picked!
No doubt JGLS has brilliant faculty. But when the seeds are poor the gardner can't do much. But if the seeds are good they can themselves grow into a robust forest!
Dude there are no JGLS haters..first come up to that stage then we will talk. Perform at the level where all the other law schools have performed, do well, show your talent and then speak. don't make statements in the air, you will fall down hard. having the "biggest campus" and "massive funding" doesn't ensure quality, the three law schools have not come up overnight. they have shown their quality over the years time and again. so atleast have some standing (not only financial) and then talk.
For comment # 24 - Just hear Dr Ventakraman who won Nobel Prize for Chemistry, has gone on record saying he was a "leftover" of Engg / PMT entrance in India and he could not qualify any engg or medical entrance and which is why he chose to do BSc / MSc from a just above average university in India - M S University Baroda ( which is not the best or a top 3 universities - the "so called" best universities are Delhi Univ, JNU, Kolkata Univ...etc) and then went abroad... and went on to win the Nobel. What time played out over the years is a different story for everyone to see.
Just because N-times candidates write CLAT for X number of seats and therefore it makes a great selection - NO, if that was the case we would have dozens of Nobles for IIT-JEE candidates who are selected in INtegrated MSc courses at the "hallowed IITs and IISc".......... Come on !! these exams are more like lottery..what has a question on biology (like what is spleen from CLAT 2009) got to do with legal aptitude? Even the IAS is now going to be based on aptitude from myabe 2011 or so, as they dont want "rattu totaas" in civil services. Once gain just becasue 2 lac candidates sit for 2000 seats doesnt make an exam great if it just selecting "rattu totas". There can always be a counter arguement to my statement here but you can take away fact from what I have stated and Facts are Sacred while Opinion is Free.
Sour grapes eh?
@ Kian Ganz - Just wanted to clarify that Kota Chandan is not a member of the Recruitment Committee at NLSIU. He graduated from law school in 2009 and is not a student. I do hope that you wrote this only under a mistaken assumption. Kota Chandan was on the recruitment committee for the batch of 2009 when he was a student here.
A quick point on the issue of foreign law firm recruitment - The number of students who have bagged London training contracts are much fewer than earlier. The only reason for that is the recessionary trend which impacted foreign law firms much more than Indian law firms. Many firms cut back on recruitment and deferred existing training contracts to cut costs. However, there is no denial that the number recruited by English law firms last year was higher.
Another curious phenomenon was the way firms like AMSS recruited. They went all out aggressive to bag the top rank holders as a change of policy. Earlier years had seen AMSS recruiting students of mid level and even very low level CGPAs. One wonders what called for a change in policy.
Are you still out of job? Float me your C.V. I will help you in getting a job. I know you are frustrated every one is getting a job and you are nowhere. Have patience Justice will be done to you
also ... many people opted out of the recruitment process at nlsiu because unlike other law schools we are no longer in the race for "who-wants-to-be-an-amarchand-partner". People are writing the civil services, joining academics, doing public policy, joining litigation and even Teach For India. That is called having a conscience. In the years to come NLSIU will teach the rest this lesson as well.
@ #41.. arrogant, much?
if it really is a good "showdown" which gives you the kicks, care to draw comparisons between equals? it's grossly unfair for you to compare NLS with ANY law school which doesn't date back to the 1980's. Having said that, I think NUJS and NALSAR do a phenomenal job of putting up a good fight.
@ all other posting here - please spare us from your mercilessly drafted posts until you can spellcheck and/or construct fluent sentences.
@ #41.. arrogant, much?
if it really is a good "showdown" which gives you the kicks, care to draw comparisons between equals? it's grossly unfair for you to compare NLS with ANY law school which doesn't date back to the 1980's. Having said that, I think NUJS and NALSAR do a phenomenal job of putting up a good fight.
@ all others posting here - please spare us from your mercilessly drafted posts until you can spellcheck and/or construct fluent sentences.
the first batch of nls graduated in the late 1980s, which means that their oldest graduate must be in his/her mid-40s. as far as i know, most law firm bosses are DU/GLC graduates in their 60s (it helps when your family also happens to own the firm).
unless of course, by "boss" you mean a senior associate/junior partner
just visit the websites of NLS/NALSAR/NUJS...there are many teachers with equally impressive bios (including "phoren" llms, which seems to be a big factor for some reason). the vice chancellors of the top 3 are also highly respected academics (jaygovind for NLS, mp singh for NUJS) . if JGLS is charging 7 lakhs just because of the faculty then that is unjustified. moreover, JGLS is in sonepat, where costs should be lower than the metros.
and for those ridiculing sarkari colleges, the top 3 get a lot of grants from the UGC, ford foundation etc;
NLS is not doing any new thing.. It is just following the model 'set up' by IITs/IIMs. Of course, who does not want to be in news? Its very heartening to see that budding lawyers trying to 'prove' that they do exist while conveniently forgetting that any company from which a law firm gets work from would be headed by an IIT/IIM grad. So forget your so called 'bosses'..! Sour grapes may be :P
Unfortunately we have jobs right now and that too which pays really well, very very very sour grapes i say, what can we do, sorry man we went through nothing when it came to a college selection procedure and even then landed with these jobs!! Damn!! Its not fair ya!!
Hey!! there is a blogging competition going around why don't you try your hand at it and talk about this very stuff you have been rattling about, you might end up winning some bucks. Just a suggestion since you happen to be the "genius who has gone through a rigorous selection procedure".
p.s: FYI, its not 41 speaking here!!
The partner in your firm is probably from NLS. People getting the Rhodes Scholarship...from NLS. Now the reason we've been driven to point this out, because our institution is being attacked needlessly. Not once anywhere in the article will you find a Law Schoolite making sweeping statements against other colleges. Agreed, JGLS maybe a good law college. But the only way you can draw attention to your institution is by criticising NLS? Does that magically make your institution 'better'?
Why are you assuming that students did not sit for the recruitment week only because they were afraid of not getting a job? Not only are you being presumptuous but also belligerent if a law schoolite tells you otherwise.
@ The incessant JGLS campaigning...
Worth a laugh or two! Please, do carry on..
@ #51
Amongst a lot of blah blah and a few decent points there (yes, there were a few.. before the quoted text, of course).. there were a couple of interesting references... its hilarious how students from NLSIU (and by NLSIU I mean NLSIU alone) try to hog the tags - "law school" and "Law Schoolites"..!!
Please, get over yourselves. NLS, when established, was quite the revolution. We've come a little further down the road since then. Today, there is very little that sets apart the top few law schools (No. Here, I don't mean NLSIU and NLSIU alone.) Yet, there are repeated attempts (like the posts above) to stare down at other law schools - which are regrettable. Regrettable indeed. Because this aura of arrogance betrays the very sense behind the foundation of NLSIU.
Although this wasn't in furtherance of any point to be made in this debate, which seems to be have taken a rather useless turn, it is just abhorrent to come to think of this "arrogance" (for the lack of a better word) when one knows very well that the founder of NLS went on to set up a couple of other very fine institutions which have competed extremely well on an uneven playing field (C'mon! Nearly a decade of a head-start later!). Nonetheless, there has been little to tell anything apart in between the top few law schools - moots, scholarships, recruitments, etc.. What does #51 mean when he says "we are the legal education in India" anyways? Comments like these.. well, they're just a little heart-breaking. C'mon! You know better! :-)
1. NLS is the best not because of when it was created or who made it or who teaches here but because the top 57 students who want to do law come here.
2. wrt moots etc., as i mentioned, perhaps you should compare international preformances too!!! i assure you we are heads and shoulders above the rest. further, most indian moots etc. are attended by first and second years and they still manage to win usually!! further, in debates, NLS is perhaps one of the best colleges in the country and amongst the top 3 in asia.. there is no way any other college can begin to "compete" with us..
3. its not arrogance- its advice- stop comparing..
It will be great if other NLUs try to make their own road rather than follow the one made by NLSIU. But any comparison with the "leader" so far is not worth it..!!
Happy recruitments to all.
For jgls guys dude always remember its the students who makes the college.
I know few toppers of top law schools of the country and i can assure you its only average guys who brag. Toppers are in a different world altogether and that is the reason they are toppers.
Dude have you ever heard Sachin, Zidane,federer,schumacher bragging about themselves?
You all are in best law schools of the country to become the best lawyers of the country.
Grow up kids..... its not +2 anymore.
thanks, but no thanks. advice really, really not solicited. whoever needs it, will no doubt come running to you - now that you've emerged, hands down, as the champion of this cause. until then, maybe us fools - the "lesser" law students - would like to while away our jobless little lives expressing an opinion, but just an opinion i assure you, every now and then.
please, lets not make this a bragging session. the less said, the better. the points you made, and a few others, are common to a few law schools. just because you seem to be oblivious to the achievements of other law schools gives you no better right to take a high ground.
"the top 57 students".. erm.. so one student scores half a mark more than another in an entrance exam on account of, say, a question on general knowledge.. as per your reasoning, the student with the half a mark more would no doubt make a much better lawyer - hands down? no "comparisons" drawn? lay out the red carpets, for our lords are here? irrespective of which law school he studies at, just as long as he's at NLS? lol.. i hope you see the many flaws in that theory.. (but then again, judging by your arguments - i really am not sure. ask around a little, indulge yourself.)
anyhow, this debate has reached a point of futility now. your arrogance, on the other hand, seems to know no bounds. if you really think you're at the top, a better way to pretend would be to at least act like it. if we really are exchanging advice here, words for you to hold dear - please. it's time now. get over yourselves.
riiight.. you, obviously, have got the absolute grasp of the discussion there!! hate to break to you mate, but the "error" was a slight over-sight in the reporting by Kian.. (hardly anything to do with the university?).. and, well, those who sat for recruitment certainly 'did' care about those figures..
"our question before recruitment is what kind of work we would like to do"..
as compared to the common practice in other law schools where an arbitrarily chosen council is appointed to prepare a randomized list of career options and then thrust down the applicants' throats. all detractors are shot in the back (or, in the rarest of rare cases, subjected to your arguments). jeez, why didn't students at my law school think of this fancy recruitment strategy!
I think at some basic level, there is little to differentiate NLS, NALSAR and NUJS - other than the fact that the top tier of the students giving the CLAT join NLS. Now, the merits of that test or lack thereof aside, there is a clear reputation that NLS enjoys that makes students want to join here. But NUJS and NALSAR are also very much coveted, and I think this is doing good things for legal education - whether it is in litigation or in corporate law.
As for JGLS' much vaunted faculty, I just noticed that Charles G. Maddox (an LLM candidate from NLS) is now an Assistant Professor. And while another, Abhayraj Naik is probably the smartest person I know, collectively the faculty isn't quite worth 7 lakhs. Not to mention, the students getting in are likely to be less academically diligent and more financially well off.
And I think the point that some people were trying to make was that people had more of a choice as to the nature of the job they wanted to take. And I think there's nothing wrong with that, or promoting it. I'm sorry if some of my fellow NLS-ites come across as arrogant to you. That being said, I'm glad that NALSAR, NUJS and NLS are competing - it'll bring the best out of all 3, and there isn't anything wrong with that.
Which is why I am horribly surprised to see folks singing about the infrastructure, faculty, placements and seniors (read: partners in law firm). Enough.
And also the tags - most notably the Big 3. By the way who coined this Big 3 or rather copied/ inspired… whatever? The self acclaimed BIG 3?, I am sure many of you would be gunning to show me the LST or India Today ratings. Well, grow up as you are no more vying for a slot in a law school, rather you are already there or thereabout. We most of us know what, when, why and how these ratings are done… nothing extraordinary about it… remember even a saif or a chatwal can get padma awards. For those still pondering… you are in the wrong field… stop masquerading.
I write because I am at loss to see you wasting time and energy in criticizing each other’s law school. Actually, life is not just all about the NLS tag or which law school did u go to?... its much more … probably more than what you had initially bargained for. Amarchand, luthra or E&Y is just a stopover… the quest is beyond…
By the way, I am a NLS grad (2007)… have worked in the topmost law firm in India and currently in one of the Big 4 consultancy. And there is nothing official about it. It’s OK to remain normal and carry some sense.
In the longer run and in the end it doesn't really matter which law school one come's from. There's always room at the top. Knowledge is power and if a person is talented then he or she can rise to the top, although it may take a longer time period and grads from well established law schools do have a head start. For those who don't make it to the top, there's not much to worry about. There's plenty of room for everyone in terms of placements. What matters is how dedicated one is in what one is doing.
P.S. Criticising this comment will not help you live a better life, hard work will :-)
Our country needs more institutions to impart good education and giving new colleges a chance is better than snubbing them for reasons like fees and location.
I mean seriously, how insecure are you guys ??
It would take some time for the college to build up a reputation and finally get the recognition it duly deserves.
Yes, we do know that it would be very hard to be one of the top 3 law schools and we are taking our steps cautiously.
One last thing, financial levels has nothing to do with "academic diligence".
great to know the actual views of different poeple..
Otherwise, there's no difference between NLSIU and HNLU. The creme de la creme of both (who're like worse than the average at Law School) are hired by Dua, Titus and all.
I work at a respectable firm and the difference between NALSAR kids and the rest is so evident, its astonishing.
and yuh i noticed the statement is self defeating. >)
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